BOMBARDIER INC CL-600-2C10PSA Airlines
1,089 lines · 18:46:52.0 – 20:48:00.1 · Washington, DC, 2025-01-30
- 20:47:47.8INT-2(woah/below).
- 20:47:52.5INT-1alright kinda come left for me ma'am I think that's why he's asking.
- 20:47:54.3INT-2sure.
- 20:47:55.3INT-1we're kinda... COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER (HELICOPTER) DCA25MA108
- 20:47:55.3GROUPCHAIRMAN'S FACTUAL REPORT PG 115 OF 116 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Source
- 20:47:55.4INT-2oh-kay. fine.
- 20:47:56.4INT-1...out towards the middle.
- 20:47:57.7INT-2[sound similar to mumbling]
- 20:47:59.2RDO[sound similar to ELT signal]
- 20:48:00.1FPS[sound of rapid beeping similar to stabilator auto mode fail master caution, continues to end of recording]
Crew communication
1,089 lines readobservations a human-factors reviewer takes from a transcript — the sterile cockpit, the Board's own notations, rhythm, CRM markers. Not emotions, not scores: the affect is in the audio, and the audio is sealedWindow: 18:30:21–20:47:59 · basis: recorder pressure altitude below 10,000 ft. Candidate non-pertinent lines below are a first reading for the investigator, not a finding; “@” marks the Board's own non-pertinent-word notation.
- 19:11:39.1“@[Crew Chief] do you need heat back there bud?”@
- 19:12:28.1“ok we should see some wires kinda coming up on the north side.”
- 19:12:38.6“let me know if we cross that road to the west we've gone too far.”
- 19:14:03.1“the river's snaking up to the right and the road's snaking up to the left.”
- 19:14:08.6“that's good. come right a little bit. another...”
- 19:16:12.6“are we R-P inbound at this point?”
- 19:16:45.1“we know it's pretty close to the road.”
- 19:17:55.7“that large lit building may be part of it.”
- 19:17:59.1“it do look like a greenhouse.”
- 19:18:19.5“I can definitely say I have the greenhouse in sight.”
- 19:18:22.1“it is blinding the # out of me.”
- 19:18:37.0“just uh- yeah just right of the greenhouse let's see.”
- 19:18:43.4“down a bit- I think you just passed it. let's see.”
- 19:18:52.9“I thought that might have been the building that was in the pictures but I don't think it was.”
- 19:18:58.2“expecting it to be lit at night. that's intense.”
- 19:20:48.9“I think it’s off to...that's the strip too so come right a little further.”
- 19:20:59.6“where's the strip? I need you to point it out to me.”
- 19:21:59.2“yup. looks pretty flat. minor grass. not worried about it.”
- 19:22:35.2“uh and I think we were here at about the right time.”
- 19:22:49.2“yeah we were pretty close on it. and then just had to uh come around. that greenhouse is really...”
- 19:22:57.9“have you been down here at night and seen that?”
- 19:23:04.8“yeah I would've uh had us avoid that a little bit. sorry about that.”
- 19:24:54.2“left rear is back inside and re-secured.”
- 19:25:39.0“I actually don't know if that strip is still in the F-A-A.”
- 19:25:44.4“I was trying to look it up last night and it wouldn't show up. looks like they didn't renew some paperwork or something.”
- 19:27:39.3“@[Crew Chief] do you have a preferred method for this transfer?”@
- 19:30:00.8“nah I wouldn't say I prefer it but I'll just leave it on at this point. we're going to be going back in and I know I will end up forgetting it.”
- 19:30:26.4“that should keep us out of Culpeper's airspace.”
- 19:30:44.3“is Culpeper gonna be to our gonna stay to our northwest?”
- 19:31:41.0“okay we're gonna cross over the intersection that's our R-P.”
- 19:32:04.2“I did not start my clock looks like you did. * * your side. master caution.”
- 19:32:42.9“what's the shelf out here or are we outside the shelf?”
- 19:35:21.1“um what airport is that out the right?”
- 19:35:28.5“I genuinely can't remember right now oh that's um Warrenton yup.”
- 19:36:14.4“looking good the intersection that we wanted to cross is right- is coming up.”
- 19:39:21.8“sweet. you want me to turn it off?”
- 19:39:42.7“we're coming up on another intersection and turning to...”
- 19:43:13.1“* we're going to be turning to the north.”
- 19:46:27.3“and then I need you back to the left please.”
- 19:46:39.9“yup. I'm a little high as well. correcting.”
- 19:47:18.3“can I get the heat on for a little bit?”
- 19:47:21.1“did turn that rheostat down so * turn it back up.”
- 19:47:28.8“no I turned the rheostat down you'll have to turn it back up.”
- 19:49:58.5“it resolved pretty quickly but we should have I should have * more.”
- 19:50:03.1“yup. so I mean that's the whole point of the F-R-C cards right...”
- 19:50:06.2“...is to get us away from doing those things automatically.”
- 19:50:45.5“okay thank you yeah you're absolutely right. i sometimes forget that.”
- 19:57:05.3“tryin' to get that turn in. every time I'm turning right she's...”
- 19:57:50.9“'kay. we're entering back into the SFRA fairly soon.”
- 20:01:06.9“okay. you can turn back to the right please.”
- 20:01:55.7“would you be up for me flying for a little while?”
- 20:03:32.8“but we were just coming up to the firehouse so timing is good so far.”
- 20:03:47.9“that's an international airport I had no idea.”
- 20:03:49.9“no I doubt it. I don't think they are.”
- 20:06:25.7“alright you warm enough for a bit @[CrewChief]?”@
- 20:07:47.8“oh that's why. mother trucker.”
- 20:09:50.3“we shouldn't need to use the FARP unless you want to.”
- 20:09:52.8“uh yeah no. uh well I don't know. when we burn this off it'll be close.”
- 20:09:58.4“might as well use 'em I hate not using 'em. I always feel really bad I'm like aw man they gotta sit out there.”
- 20:10:07.2“I know so it’s like when you don't use 'em. I don't know I always feel bad.”
Delivery and physiological notes the transcribers added in brackets, plus # expletives. 128 words are marked unintelligible (*).
- #19:18:22.1“it is blinding the # out of me.”
- #19:25:28.2“yeah I'm going to use that strip more. make people fly into that # greenhouse. COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER (HELICOPTER) DCA25MA108”
- spoken as 'kay highway19:35:35.3“KHWY. [spoken as 'kay highway]”
- #20:20:27.8“yup. you're good. feels like you're gettin' your # kicked with some uh wind to the left right?”
- #20:28:39.2“holy #.”
- #20:28:44.7“I just saw our shadow and almost pooped myself. that was # terrifying.”
- #20:29:36.7“that was a terrible # call.”
- sound similar to mumbling20:47:57.7“[sound similar to mumbling]”
- 1456 s18:46:52.0 → 19:11:08in sterile window
- 79 s20:35:17.1 → 20:36:35.8in sterile window
- 75 s19:58:39.8 → 19:59:54.8in sterile window
- 69 s19:54:15.4 → 19:55:24.6in sterile window
- 56 s19:23:22.0 → 19:24:18.4in sterile window
- 54 s19:51:51.4 → 19:52:45.3in sterile window
- 51 s20:40:23.6 → 20:41:14.5in sterile window
- 50 s19:40:06.5 → 19:40:56.5in sterile window
Hedged or questioning lines from one pilot in the critical window, with the other pilot’s next words.
- 19:18:23.6“[sound of quick laugh] go ahead I think we have this long pathway here to the right if we need to go around and set back down we can.”→ 19:18:32.1“yeah I don't- I'm not seein' anything that looks like a landing area. where you at ma'am? where are you looking at?”
- 19:18:32.1“yeah I don't- I'm not seein' anything that looks like a landing area. where you at ma'am? where are you looking at?”→ 19:18:37.0“just uh- yeah just right of the greenhouse let's see.”
- 19:19:05.6“keep slowin' back I think we're right about at the landing area.”→ 19:19:10.1“sorry I'm just trying to get over that thing. yeah I think I've got the strip out the left door. and clear left.”
- 19:19:10.1“sorry I'm just trying to get over that thing. yeah I think I've got the strip out the left door. and clear left.”→ 19:19:16.9“okay. clear left.”
- 19:25:51.0“I found them on uh flight aware or something like googling but yeah didn't check the uh...didn't check it. okay alright so taking out of here with this heading which * to be a little off it looks like it’s more like a three three five no three four three.”→ 19:26:09.7“cool.”
- 19:29:55.7“and since we're outside the SFRA if you want to you can uh like turn off that landing light but I don't know if you prefer it.”→ 19:30:00.8“nah I wouldn't say I prefer it but I'll just leave it on at this point. we're going to be going back in and I know I will end up forgetting it.”
- 19:34:43.3“let me try a different frequency I think.”→ 19:35:21.1“um what airport is that out the right?”
- 19:38:22.1“what is that frequency in two is that Warrenton or Culpeper?”→ 19:38:25.3“that was Culpeper. COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER (HELICOPTER) DCA25MA108”
- 19:40:59.4“are we just descending and slowing a little bit all good?”→ 19:41:01.5“*.”
- 19:41:18.5“what's that?”→ 19:41:19.3“sorry about that.”
- 19:46:50.1“I thought we went over to the three one heading or whatever.”→ 19:46:54.9“no you're good and then yeah correct down to two thousand a little bit.”
- 19:47:37.0“to the right? I'm not sure *.”→ 19:47:45.3“there it goes wide open.”
- 19:50:09.8“um yeah we all just pretty much confirmed that it probably is just going to be an auto control reset. but the whole point of the F-R-Cs is 'cause we end up killing ourselves because we do something without confirming and verifying. and so I mean that's yeah the idea is if its not an immediate step we're getting in the checklist we're working as a crew um to ensure we're doing the right thing. again it is a mentality it is a tough mentality to just slow down. * I know how to fix this but I'm going to read the book anyways. but that- that's you know that's what they want. that's what we're looking for so.”→ 19:50:45.5“okay thank you yeah you're absolutely right. i sometimes forget that.”
- 19:51:17.3“coming right. I do see what looks like a small little town over there to the uh one o'clock maybe. COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER (HELICOPTER) DCA25MA108”→ 19:51:22.5“I think so.”
- 19:53:18.7“I think it’s still pushing us a little bit so a little farther so like three five zero.”→ 19:53:23.1“three five zero.”
- 19:53:39.5“I don't know about you but I'm feeling a little dizzy like looking down and around with the winds or whatever it is but not too bad.”→ 19:53:44.4“roger.”
- 19:56:37.5“is that just turbulence or do you need assistance?”→ 19:56:40.1“no that's just turb. I'm trying to turn with uh- yeah we're just gettin' pushed pretty far out of trim. trying to keep her in trim and get that turn in she did not like it. she did not like it.”
- 20:18:34.2“uh I think it'd beee probably better. because you're turning in to the wind right?”→ 20:18:36.4“okay. yeah.”
- 20:19:00.5“what's that?”→ 20:19:01.2“uh the winds should be out the- out of your right- off the right door.”
- 20:20:21.2“*. yeah I'm not sure I'm. I'm.”→ 20:20:25.4“what's up?”
- 20:24:33.7“and its uh...yeah with it blowing obviously the wind sock doesn't look like its blowing very much. the windsock has it kind of...I guess the windsock has it blowing as a three zero zero. so that's the thing with a helipad I mean you can kind of come in any way you want as long as you as long as you can make aware. obviously those lights out the right door and that tower make it uh not conducive to be over here.”→ 20:24:59.6“good challenge though. worth a try.”
- 20:27:36.6“alright. that's not the right route.”→ 20:28:03.2“right crew. COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER (HELICOPTER) DCA25MA108”
- 20:32:28.8“I don't know if that last one * not. * before that though.”→ 20:32:49.5“okay ma'am you can fly. sounds like you've communicated all that needs to be communicated.”
- 20:42:16.1“I don't see him yet.”→ 20:42:18.0“* he's gonna be down in the lights.”
- 19:46:10.1[sound of rapid beeping similar to stabilator auto mode fail master caution]→ 1.7 s later: 19:46:11.8“master caution. COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER (HELICOPTER) DCA25MA108”
- 20:48:00.1[sound of rapid beeping similar to stabilator auto mode fail master caution, continues to end of recording]→ no crew words within 5 s
- 19:47:17.5“say again?”
- 20:10:34.2“were there other issues?”
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| Speaker | words | questions | hedges | exclamations | expletives | checklists | non-pertinent lines |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Captain | 3,924 | 52 | 26 | 9 | 6 | 0 | 58 |
| First officer | 3,721 | 24 | 25 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 57 |
| Observer / jumpseat | 333 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 |
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