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Boeing 767Atlas Air

481 lines · 11:57:59.1 – 12:39:02.0 · Trinity Bay, TX, 2019-02-23

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CaptainFirst officerControllersWarningsSounds
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  • 12:38:56.4HOT-2@Capt. [Spoken in elevated voice.] 4 Refer to Sound Spectrum Study for a detailed examination of tones detected on the recording.
  • 12:38:56.6CAM-3what's goin' on? [Spoken in an elevated voice.]
  • 12:38:56.8HOT-?[Sound of rapid breathing.]
  • 12:38:57.4HOT-2@Capt-
  • 12:38:58.1CAM[Sound of quick series of four beeps at 1200 Hz.] 5
  • 12:38:58.9CAM[Sound of longer duration pulse tone about 1000 Hz, similar to Siren. Group could not determine if audible sounds lasted until end of recording.] 6
  • 12:38:59.4CAM-3* pull up. [Shouted.]
  • 12:39:00.9HOT-2[Unintelligible shout.]
  • 12:39:02.0HOT-?(oh God). [Shouted.]
  • 12:39:02.0HOT-2Lord * * you have my soul. [Shouted.]

Crew communication

481 lines readobservations a human-factors reviewer takes from a transcript — the sterile cockpit, the Board's own notations, rhythm, CRM markers. Not emotions, not scores: the affect is in the audio, and the audio is sealed
51 / 49
floor share · CA / FO %
0%
non-pertinent talk in sterile window
3 · 17 · 3
laughter · delivery · expletives
3 of 32
crew questions unanswered in 8 s
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warnings with a crew response in 5 s
CaptainCaptain: 6 in minute 1Captain: 7 in minute 2Captain: 12 in minute 3Captain: 4 in minute 4Captain: 8 in minute 5Captain: 8 in minute 6Captain: 7 in minute 7Captain: 6 in minute 9Captain: 4 in minute 10Captain: 16 in minute 11Captain: 6 in minute 12Captain: 6 in minute 13Captain: 5 in minute 14Captain: 1 in minute 15Captain: 3 in minute 16Captain: 5 in minute 17Captain: 7 in minute 18Captain: 2 in minute 19Captain: 1 in minute 21Captain: 4 in minute 22Captain: 3 in minute 23Captain: 1 in minute 26Captain: 1 in minute 27Captain: 1 in minute 28Captain: 9 in minute 29Captain: 5 in minute 31Captain: 3 in minute 32Captain: 7 in minute 33Captain: 9 in minute 34Captain: 8 in minute 35Captain: 9 in minute 36Captain: 2 in minute 37Captain: 3 in minute 38Captain: 8 in minute 39Captain: 9 in minute 40Captain: 8 in minute 41First officerFirst officer: 7 in minute 2First officer: 10 in minute 3First officer: 3 in minute 4First officer: 6 in minute 5First officer: 10 in minute 6First officer: 9 in minute 7First officer: 3 in minute 9First officer: 5 in minute 10First officer: 15 in minute 11First officer: 3 in minute 12First officer: 7 in minute 13First officer: 7 in minute 14First officer: 1 in minute 15First officer: 8 in minute 16First officer: 7 in minute 17First officer: 5 in minute 18First officer: 1 in minute 19First officer: 4 in minute 22First officer: 4 in minute 23First officer: 2 in minute 26First officer: 1 in minute 27First officer: 8 in minute 29First officer: 5 in minute 31First officer: 6 in minute 32First officer: 3 in minute 33First officer: 8 in minute 34First officer: 8 in minute 35First officer: 12 in minute 36First officer: 2 in minute 37First officer: 13 in minute 39First officer: 11 in minute 40First officer: 18 in minute 41First officer: 2 in minute 42ControllersControllers: 5 in minute 1Controllers: 1 in minute 2Controllers: 1 in minute 3Controllers: 1 in minute 9Controllers: 3 in minute 10Controllers: 1 in minute 17Controllers: 1 in minute 18Controllers: 1 in minute 21Controllers: 1 in minute 22Controllers: 1 in minute 27Controllers: 2 in minute 33Controllers: 1 in minute 37Controllers: 3 in minute 38Controllers: 3 in minute 39Controllers: 1 in minute 40Controllers: 2 in minute 4111:5712:0712:1712:2712:37
Utterances per minute, one row per speaker on one clock. shaded = sterile-cockpit window · red = end of recording.
Sterile cockpit · 14 CFR 121.542

Windows: 10:27:09–10:40:13, 12:36:35–12:39:02 · basis: recorder pressure altitude below 10,000 ft. Candidate non-pertinent lines below are a first reading for the investigator, not a finding.

No candidate non-pertinent conversation inside the window.

The Board’s own notations

Delivery and physiological notes the transcribers added in brackets, plus # expletives. 36 words are marked unintelligible (*).

  • Sound similar to yawn.12:01:29.2“[Sound similar to yawn.]”
  • FO speaking under his breath.12:07:45.8“* * (set). [FO speaking under his breath.]”
  • #12:08:54.2“# man I'm bleeding.”
  • #12:09:10.0“#.”
  • Spoken in an accent.12:09:16.2“I (don't/no) like-a da bumps. [Spoken in an accent.]”
  • Sound of groan/yawn.12:09:33.3“[Sound of groan/yawn.]”
  • #12:13:33.6“(we have * captain) * * (we're adding a hundred to (our) mins three ninety-six. we have all the requirements we have more than enough visibility to shoot this approach. um- upon landing- two six right- come back down. foxtrot alpha- foxtrot alpha foxtrox- oh #-”
  • Spoken in elevated voice.12:38:45.0“woah. [Spoken in elevated voice.]”
  • Spoken in elevated voice.12:38:45.9“(where's) my speed my speed [Spoken in elevated voice.]”
  • Spoken in elevated voice.12:38:48.0“we're stalling. [Spoken in elevated voice.]”
  • Spoken in elevated voice.12:38:52.3“oh Lord have mercy myself. [Spoken in elevated voice.]”
  • Spoken in elevated voice.12:38:55.1“@Capt. [Spoken in elevated voice.]”
  • Spoken in elevated voice.12:38:56.0“(Lord)– [Spoken in elevated voice.]”
  • Spoken in elevated voice.12:38:56.4“@Capt. [Spoken in elevated voice.] 4 Refer to Sound Spectrum Study for a detailed examination of tones detected on the recording.”
  • Spoken in an elevated voice.12:38:56.6“what's goin' on? [Spoken in an elevated voice.]”
  • Sound of rapid breathing.12:38:56.8“[Sound of rapid breathing.]”
  • Shouted.12:38:59.4“* pull up. [Shouted.]”
  • Unintelligible shout.12:39:00.9“[Unintelligible shout.]”
  • Shouted.12:39:02.0“(oh God). [Shouted.]”
  • Shouted.12:39:02.0“Lord * * you have my soul. [Shouted.]”
Silences of 45 s or more
Concerns voiced, and what followed

Hedged or questioning lines from one pilot in the critical window, with the other pilot’s next words.

  • 12:38:45.9“(where's) my speed my speed [Spoken in elevated voice.]”
    → 12:38:47.3“okay.”
Warnings and the response

No warning-system lines in the transcript.

Questions between the pilots left unanswered
  • 12:10:27.7“why is it not descending?”
  • 12:11:40.3“yeah. and two ten. okay?”
  • 12:37:00.4“okay so one second. okay so we gunna hold off on that checklist. right?”
Standard callouts
MinimumsV1 · not in transcriptRotate / Vr · not in transcriptV2 · not in transcriptPositive rate · not in transcriptGear up · not in transcript1,000 ft · not in transcript500 ft · not in transcriptGear down · not in transcriptRunway in sight · not in transcriptGo around · not in transcriptStabilized · not in transcript

“Not in transcript” never means “not said”: a line may be unintelligible, or the recording may not cover that phase.

Language, as counts
Speakerwordsquestionshedgesexclamationsexpletiveschecklistsnon-pertinent lines
Captain1,368221032010
First officer1,32012141108
Observer / jumpseat6100000

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11:57:59.1CARDO-1Houston good afternoon Giant thirty-five ninety-one heavy four zero zero.p.12
11:58:03.6ATCCTRGiant thirty-five ninety-one Houston Center good – uh good afternoon sir- expect light chop.p.12
11:58:09.0CARDO-1roger yeah we've been pickin' up a little bit- just intermittent.p.12
11:58:11.8ATCCTRokie doke.p.12
11:58:12.6CACAM-1alright- um...p.12
11:58:15.2ATCCTRGiant thirty-five ninety-one advise when you're ready.p.12
11:58:24.3CARDO-1okay uh Giant thirty-five ninety-one we're ready.p.12
11:58:27.5ATCCTRGiant thirty-five ninety-one after uh GIRLY after GIRLY cleared to the terminal via LINKK ONE arrival LINKK ONE maintain flight level four zero zero.p.12
11:58:35.8CARDO-1alright after GIRLY LINKK ONE and we'll stay four zero zero thanks Giant thirty-five ninety-one.p.12
11:58:45.2◦CAM[Sound similar to lavatory door lock being operated.]p.12
11:58:53.8ATCCTR* Giant thirty-five ninety-one read back broke up a little bit uhp.13
11:58:53.8GIRGIRLYLINKK ONE arrival four zero zero. got it?p.13
11:58:58.9CARDO-1yes sir uh GIRLY LINKK ONE arrival and four zero zero thirty-five ninety-one.p.13
11:59:03.8ATCCTRgreat. thanks.p.13
11:59:07.6FOCAM-2okay.p.13
11:59:28.3CACAM-1uh there's GIRLY.p.13
11:59:33.2CACAM-1okay.p.13
11:59:39.7CACAM-1alright LINKK ONE.p.13
11:59:41.0FOCAM-2yeah.p.13
11:59:42.3FOCAM-2(so) go ahead (go ahead) put that in the box LINKKp.13
11:59:42.3ONEONEarrival.p.13
11:59:47.2CACAM-1two six right?p.13
11:59:47.8FOCAM-2two six right.p.13
11:59:48.8CACAM-1I mean that's what I'm thinkin'.p.13
11:59:49.4FOCAM-2ummm- using flap twenty five. autobrakes (three/basically)–p.14
11:59:53.6CACAM-1GIRLY.p.14
11:59:54.3FOCAM-2yup.p.14
11:59:55.8CACAM-1and I'm gunna leave that by you probably do ZAPPO but I'll leave it like it is for now.p.14
11:59:59.0FOCAM-2okayyy.p.14
11:59:59.8CACAM-1so let's go to legs.p.14
12:00:04.7CACAM-1BBQUE.p.14
12:00:08.6CACAM-1if you watch yours I'll - I'll read 'em out.p.14
12:00:10.0FOCAM-2okay.p.14
12:00:10.5CACAM-1alright at BBQUE at uh speed two eighty. two ten or below.p.14
12:00:15.2FOCAM-2yes.p.14
12:00:15.7CACAM-1LINKK at two fifty between twelve and fifteen.p.14
12:00:18.3FOCAM-2roger.p.14
12:00:18.9CACAM-1GILLL at eight between eight and ten and two forty.p.15
12:00:21.8FOCAM-2yeap.p.15
12:00:22.5FOCAM-2then GARRR.p.15
12:00:23.7CACAM-1and then vectors.p.15
12:00:25.0FOCAM-2* six thousand's the bottom altitude.p.15
12:00:26.7CACAM-1alright.p.15
12:00:28.8CACAM-1confirm?p.15
12:00:29.6FOCAM-2execute.p.15
12:00:31.8CACAM-1alright autobrakes what?p.15
12:00:33.0FOCAM-2(uh/auto) two.p.15
12:00:35.8CACAM-1flaps twenty-five. okay.p.15
12:00:36.8FOCAM-2*.p.15
12:00:37.1CACAM-1let me get the new ATIS and I'll get us set up.p.15
12:00:47.6FOCAM-2you can put also put uh- two seven in also.p.16
12:00:53.6ATCCTRattention all aircraft hazardous information Houston Center weather advisory two zero five for Mississippi Alabama region available on HIWAS Flightwatch flight * *-.p.16
12:01:29.2CAMCAM-?[Sound similar to yawn.]p.16
12:01:42.0FOCAM-2*.p.16
12:01:44.1CACAM-1what's that?p.16
12:01:45.2FOCAM-2just yawning.p.16
12:01:49.2CACAM-1would you grab that uh-p.16
12:01:50.7FOCAM-2(huh/oh)?p.16
12:01:52.1CACAM-1ATIS please.p.16
12:01:57.0CACAM-1thank ya sirrr.p.16
12:01:59.9CACAM-1alright two thirty fourrr.p.16
12:02:06.9CACAM-1two eleven eight. aaand eighteen four.p.16
12:02:19.3CACAM-1two- zero two thirty four. two three zero point two.p.17
12:02:27.7CACAM-1double bug one twenty six.p.17
12:02:31.4CACAM-1uhhh and so on ref speed-p.17
12:02:37.9CACAM-1you wanna add twenty to that? well let's see what's it doin' now?p.17
12:02:40.3FOCAM-2that's where the winds are first.p.17
12:02:42.6CACAM-1and now it's just three two- three two zero at fourteen.p.17
12:02:45.8FOCAM-2oh okay not that bad.p.17
12:02:48.8FOCAM-2winds are-p.17
12:02:50.6FOCAM-2three two zero at fourteen so-p.17
12:02:52.7FOCAM-2sixty two two oh [zero] two. are the flaps...p.17
12:02:55.7CACAM-1huh?p.17
12:02:57.6FOCAM-2(on the five- plus five-) add five to that.p.17
12:03:00.8FOCAM-2so like uh one.p.17
12:03:01.6CACAM-1so you want me to put it on here do you wanna put it?p.18
12:03:03.4FOCAM-2(let's/plus twelve) let's put it on here.p.18
12:03:04.7CACAM-1okay so what we got? one twenty six?p.18
12:03:07.2FOCAM-2one twenty six.p.18
12:03:07.7CACAM-1(plan) one thirty two or something like that.p.18
12:03:09.5FOCAM-2plan one thirty two.p.18
12:03:11.6FOCAM-2let's just call it one thirty five.p.18
12:03:13.2FOCAM-2one–p.18
12:03:13.5CACAM-1one thirty five.p.18
12:03:13.7FOCAM-2one thirty five–p.18
12:03:14.1FOCAM-2call it (like that).p.18
12:03:15.3CACAM-1I just put this that's my reminder.p.18
12:03:16.7FOCAM-2ohh okay * *-p.18
12:03:17.4CACAM-1(to) set that for ya.p.19
12:03:18.0FOCAM-2(okay).p.19
12:03:18.8CACAM-1uhhh- okay.p.19
12:03:21.0CACAM-1let me do this now.p.19
12:04:04.2CACAM-1ahhh sooo- put two seven instead of two six right.p.19
12:04:11.8FOCAM-2* two six right and two seven (I believe) one of those two. what'd you think?p.19
12:04:16.8CACAM-1what I think it'll either be the left side- the left or the bottom- I think.p.19
12:04:23.0FOCAM-2* (left/land) (and)-p.19
12:04:26.6CACAM-1two six left or two seven.p.19
12:04:28.2FOCAM-2yeah.p.19
12:04:28.6CACAM-1I'm hoping they'll get tho-those two- the top two. they'll probably give it to us- we'll ask for it.p.19
12:04:32.6FOCAM-2yup. okay.p.19
12:04:33.6CACAM-1if we need to I'll get- I'll get a different one.p.20
12:04:36.2FOCAM-2that sounds good.p.20
12:04:38.7CACAM-1I mean two seven's–p.20
12:04:39.6FOCAM-2I agree I agree.p.20
12:04:40.6CACAM-1two seven’s even longer so we'll be good.p.20
12:04:42.1FOCAM-2* * *.p.20
12:04:44.6FOCAM-2yes.p.20
12:04:46.0FOCAM-2yeah those two close to where we are.p.20
12:05:11.8◦CAM[Chime. Sound similar to ACARS information arrival for landing data.]p.20
12:06:28.3CACAM-1like it?p.20
12:06:28.9FOCAM-2* (let's see / * ).p.20
12:06:32.8CACAM-1let's see-p.20
12:06:43.0CACAM-1which one (do you thin...)- I mean if they give me a choice- I'd take two six right 'cause we- we get–p.21
12:06:48.2ATCCTRGiant thirty five ninety one traffic- descend and maintain flight level three five zero.p.21
12:06:52.2CARDO-1descend three five zero Giant thirty five ninety one.p.21
12:06:54.5FOCAM-2three five zero.p.21
12:06:54.9CACAM-1three five zero set.p.21
12:06:56.1FOCAM-2yeah the last time I saw it was two six right and (what they) give us.p.21
12:06:59.0CACAM-1so I'll set ya up with that- I'll change it-p.21
12:07:00.2FOCAM-2two six right.p.21
12:07:01.2FOCAM-2I agree.p.21
12:07:24.9ATCCTRGiant thirty five ninety one contact Houston Center one three four point niner two so long.p.21
12:07:29.2CARDO-1thirty four ninety two have a good weekendp.21
12:07:35.3CARDO-1Houston good afternoon- Giant thirty five ninety one is uhhh four zero zero descending uh thirty five- three five zero. thanks.p.22
12:07:40.7FOCAM-2set.p.22
12:07:45.8FOCAM-2* * (set). [FO speaking under his breath.]p.22
12:07:47.3CAMCAM-?(ugh/yeah).p.22
12:07:48.5ATCCTRwho made that last call?p.22
12:07:49.9CARDO-1yes sir Giant thirty five ninety one is uh three nine zero descending three five zero.p.22
12:07:57.1CACAM-1(let's get the)–p.22
12:07:57.7ATCCTRGiant uhhh [Sound similar to radio interference.] thirty five ninety one roger- descend and maintain flight level three four zero. [Sound similar to radio interference.]p.22
12:07:57.7FOCAM-2doin' two eighty in the descent–p.22
12:08:04.1CARDO-1descend three four zero Giant thirty five ninety one.p.22
12:08:06.8CACAM-1thirty-four set.p.22
12:08:07.3FOCAM-2think we're good.p.23
12:08:07.8CACAM-1what do you–p.23
12:08:07.9FOCAM-2what'd he- what'd he said two eight zero?p.23
12:08:10.1CACAM-1yeah it's fine.p.23
12:08:15.3CACAM-1damn.p.23
12:08:17.0CACAM-1alllright. eleven fifty-five-p.23
12:08:19.5FOCAM-2okay so-p.23
12:08:20.2CACAM-1two sixty seven.p.23
12:08:25.6FOCAM-2okay.p.23
12:08:26.6CACAM-1uhhh let's see. minimums.p.23
12:08:28.8FOCAM-2minimums are gunna be three- four ninety-six I guess.p.23
12:08:32.2FOCAM-2three ninety-six.p.23
12:08:33.7CACAM-1three ninety-six- four hundred.p.23
12:08:30.4FOHOT-2four ninety-six I guess.p.24
12:08:32.4CAHOT-1three ninety-six.p.24
12:08:32.5FOHOT-2oh three ninety-six.p.24
12:08:33.7CAHOT-1three ninety-six four hundred.p.24
12:08:35.5CAHOT-1‘bout four hundred’s close enough.p.24
12:08:36.6FOHOT-2'kay four hundred is close.p.24
12:08:40.2FOHOT-2speed.p.24
12:08:43.0FOHOT-2(gunna) be small (seven three).p.24
12:08:50.5FOHOT-2confirm.p.24
12:08:51.2CAHOT-1execute.p.24
12:08:53.3FOHOT-2okay.p.24
12:08:54.2CAHOT-1# man I'm bleeding.p.24
12:08:55.6FOHOT-2(is it) 'cause the clouds?p.24
12:08:57.2CAHOT-1yeah.p.25
12:08:58.6CAHOT-1I'm bleeding.p.25
12:08:58.6FOHOT-2('turb) ohhh.p.25
12:09:00.4CAHOT-1I think my - I don't know which one it is but I hit my head every time I get out and I've got like a permanent scar now.p.25
12:09:05.5FOHOT-2ohhkay.p.25
12:09:08.3FOHOT-2back to two eighty- confirmed.p.25
12:09:10.0CACAM-1#.p.25
12:09:16.2CAHOT-1I (don't/no) like-a da bumps. [Spoken in an accent.]p.25
12:09:20.8◦CAM[Sound of click.]p.25
12:09:33.3CAHOT-1[Sound of groan/yawn.]p.25
12:09:41.3FOHOT-2okay - I'm gunna giva ya controls when you're ready.p.25
12:09:45.2CAHOT-1alright one second.p.25
12:09:53.9◦CAM[Sound of click.]p.26
12:09:58.4CAHOT-1alright I got controls.p.26
12:09:59.4FOHOT-2alright your controls LNAV VNAV center autopilot command. we're level - we're thousand feet to go- a thousand to level.p.26
12:10:03.9CAHOT-1thousand level off.p.26
12:10:05.6FOHOT-2your controls.p.26
12:10:15.6CAHOT-1come on baby.p.26
12:10:22.4FOHOT-2it's always * * *.p.26
12:10:22.4CAHOT-1let's go.p.26
12:10:26.3FOHOT-2sooo.p.26
12:10:27.7CAHOT-1why is it not descending?p.26
12:10:42.3CAHOT-1ohhh VNAV. [Sound of chuckle.]p.26
12:10:43.6FOHOT-2okay.p.26
12:10:44.3CAHOT-1there we go.p.27
12:10:46.3FOHOT-2ohhh 'kayyy.p.27
12:10:50.6FOHOT-2so we have - (it's listed as) GIRLY BBQUE at two eighty flight level two ten. twenty-one thousand feetp.27
12:10:50.6LINLINKS[LINKK] uh two fifty between fifteen and twelve thousand feet. then we have GILLL two forty um at or above ten thousand and eight - and then two ten at six thousand- at uhh– GARRR (I'm sorry)- two ten at seven thousand. so seven thousand will be the bottom altitude.p.27
12:11:30.4CAHOT-1seven’s the bottom?p.27
12:11:31.4FOHOT-2yes.p.27
12:11:32.1CAHOT-1okay.p.27
12:11:32.2FOHOT-2(so) let's confirm that- two six left.p.27
12:11:36.9FOHOT-2two huh two seven and six thousand.p.27
12:11:39.2CAHOT-1yeah 'cause we're goin' to GARRR.p.27
12:11:40.3FOHOT-2yeah. and two ten. okay?p.27
12:11:48.8CAHOT-1well unless they change it we're goin' to two seven- oh we're changin' it in here then-p.28
12:11:51.8FOHOT-2okay.p.28
12:11:52.5CAHOT-1and then it'll be six- but they'll- they'll let us know.p.28
12:11:53.8FOHOT-2then it'll be six [two six]. yes.p.28
12:11:55.9FOHOT-2sooo we are planning I-L-S runway two-six right- into Houston seventy-one dash six is what I have. eleven point five five and two sixty-seven on the final approach course. we have OWELL and uhhh- OWELL- uhh two thousand feet- and the published gunna be- four- uhhh three ninety-six- we have four hundred set. we have uh a touchdown of ninety-six and an M-S-A of twenty-four hundred in the west side thirty one hundred east side.p.28
12:12:29.2CAHOT-1okay.p.28
12:12:29.4FOHOT-2if we go missed- in the event we have to go missed- it's gunna be climbing to six hundred feet- six hundred feet- um- outbound- up to right turn three thousand feet. and and on the three forty four.p.28
12:13:02.7FOHOT-2three forty-four radial to PEPBI intersection which I saw that there- PEPBI intersection and hold three thousand.p.28
12:13:11.2FOHOT-2or directed by A-T-C. the transition is eighteen thousand feet. we have the requirements-p.29
12:13:15.7CAHOT-1yeah I can't hear ya man.p.29
12:13:17.7FOHOT-2huh?p.29
12:13:18.2CAHOT-1it's hard to hear ya.p.29
12:13:18.7FOHOT-2ohh the transition is-p.29
12:13:19.8CAHOT-1ya talkin'- ya talkin' to the front of the plane so.p.29
12:13:21.7FOHOT-2ahh okay transition is eighteen thousand feet so we have that is all done. ummm.p.29
12:13:29.3FOHOT-2ahh we have A-L-S-F lighting system on this one- no PAPIs on the uhh-p.29
12:13:33.6FOHOT-2(we have * captain) * * (we're adding a hundred to (our) mins three ninety-six. we have all the requirements we have more than enough visibility to shoot this approach. um- upon landing- two six right- come back down. foxtrot alpha- foxtrot alpha foxtrox- oh #-p.29
12:13:55.8FOHOT-2foxtrot alpha- foxtrot hotel- foxtrot echo probably (delta/down) this way.p.29
12:14:00.1FOHOT-2sooo-p.30
12:14:00.7CAHOT-1perfect.p.30
12:14:01.4FOHOT-2yeap.p.30
12:14:02.0FOHOT-2and umm as far as my uhh technique in landing this plane- umm a thousand feet- I’ll take the autopilot off- roughly. at five hundred feet or below ill probably take the auto throttles off when I come in I pretty much keep my power in until around thirty feet or so- and that's when I start leveling off- then coming back slowly on the power so- um you can expect that. um other than that- if we have to go missed it's gunna be go around- flaps twenty- positive climb. go gear up. um at a thousand feet eh you know we go uh speed- select speed.p.30
12:14:36.4CAHOT-1flight level change.p.30
12:14:36.9ATCCTRGiant thirty-five ninety-one contact Houston Center one three three point eight.p.30
12:14:37.0FOHOT-2flight level change set speed.p.30
12:14:41.3CARDO-1one three three decimal eight Giant eh thirty five ninety one.p.30
12:14:45.9FOHOT-2I'm staying at flaps five.p.30
12:14:47.4CAHOT-1no questions. good brief.p.31
12:14:48.7FOHOT-2okay.p.31
12:14:51.2CAHOT-1alright. uhhh so. three four zero center autopilot command your controls.p.31
12:14:55.9FOHOT-2my controls (let's) go recall review descent checklist.p.31
12:15:00.9CAHOT-1no items.p.31
12:15:01.8FOHOT-2okay.p.31
12:15:04.3CAHOT-1alright. pressurization.p.31
12:15:07.0FOHOT-2uhh it's set.p.31
12:15:08.5CAHOT-1it isss set for Houston. I'll do the crossfeed real quick.p.31
12:15:13.0FOHOT-2okay.p.31
12:15:17.2CAHOT-1cross- alright crossfeed's been checked uhh recall's been checked. autobrakes two is set. landing data V ref of one twenty-six- we'll go one thirty-five uhh on our speed all the way down. and uh minimums are four hundred feet set and approach brief complete descent check complete.p.31
12:15:32.0FOHOT-2(roger/all done.) checklist complete.p.32
12:15:32.6CARDO-1Houston. good afternoon. Giant thirty-five ninety-one. three four zero.p.32
12:15:37.2ATCCTRGiant thirty-five ninety-one Houston Center roger.p.32
12:15:40.7CAHOT-1cool.p.32
12:15:42.7CAHOT-1it's all good like butter on a biscuit.p.32
12:15:43.6FOHOT-2eh yuppp.p.32
12:16:40.6CACAM-1once they hand us off to approach I'll ask 'em which runway their gunna give us so.p.32
12:16:47.1CACAM-1they should tell us- sometimes they don't.p.32
12:16:49.8FOHOT-2yeah.p.32
12:18:45.4ATCCTRGiant thirty-five ninety-one descend via LINKK one arrival Beaumont altimeter two niner eight eight.p.32
12:18:53.0CARDO-1alright two niner eight eight descend via the uh LINKK one arrival Giant uhh- any idea which runway we can expect?p.32
12:18:59.2ATCCTRuhhh there should be a note I don't issue a transition.p.33
12:19:01.9CARDO-1okie doke.p.33
12:19:02.5FOHOT-2(seven) thousand.p.33
12:19:19.8CAHOT-1yeah I don't know if they don't understand or- 'cause it does make a difference on your altitude- which runway you get.p.33
12:19:26.2FOHOT-2really doesn't matter.p.33
12:19:27.3CAHOT-1whatever- we get closer.p.33
12:19:45.8FOHOT-2and it's especially worse if you planned it the other way around like having six in- and then they change it to seven and you don't (know/notice) so then you missed it.p.33
12:19:56.8CAHOT-1yup.p.33
12:19:56.9FOHOT-2so high to low is not so bad- ya know.p.33
12:19:59.3CAHOT-1yeah I'd rather be higher–p.33
12:20:00.0FOHOT-2I'd rather be higher than lower. yea.p.33
12:20:00.6CAHOT-1higher than lower. [In unison with HOT-2.]p.34
12:20:02.0FOHOT-2ya know but- but-p.34
12:20:19.8◦CAM[Sound of clunk similar to an unknown cockpit item being moved.]p.34
12:20:31.2FOHOT-2well I think the difference in altitude is only 'cause- ya gunna be at- the shorter distance-p.34
12:20:37.6CAHOT-1it's shorter distance- yeah.p.34
12:20:38.5FOHOT-2but they wanna get ya down lower that's all.p.34
12:21:18.9◦CAM[Change in CAM signal to noise ratio. The CAM recorded at a lower decibel level for the remainder of the recording.]p.34
12:23:45.4FOHOT-2approaching top of descent.p.34
12:23:49.9CAHOT-1say again?p.34
12:23:50.9FOHOT-2I said ap- I said approaching top of descent.p.34
12:24:52.7FOHOT-2okay (*ing) three four zero.p.34
12:24:54.2CARDO-1and Giant thirty-five ninety-one three four zero's beginning our descent.p.35
12:24:58.1ATCCTRGiant thirty-five ninety-one roger.p.35
12:25:06.6◦CAM[Sound similar to increase in pack airflow noise.]p.35
12:25:57.6CAHOT-1he didn't give us a speed did he? alright. [This comment came immediately after ATC issued a speed restriction for another aircraft on frequency which is not transcribed.]p.35
12:26:02.6CAHOT-1make sure I didn't miss something.p.35
12:26:04.1FOHOT-2(this)- this- two eighty and (uhh so).p.35
12:26:07.8CAHOT-1yeah but you put that in there.p.35
12:26:09.1FOHOT-2huh?p.35
12:26:09.7CAHOT-1you put that in there right?p.35
12:26:11.3FOHOT-2what?p.35
12:26:11.7CAHOT-1two eighty. he didn't give us two eighty.p.35
12:26:13.8FOHOT-2no two eighty's on the approach I just put the descent so I just put it in as a- it can go ta- you can descend faster and then have it transition to two eighty when it's time but-p.36
12:26:22.0CAHOT-1so what you wanna go three ten?p.36
12:26:23.4FOHOT-2uhyeah.p.36
12:26:24.7CAHOT-1ummm.p.36
12:26:26.9FOHOT-2when we were doin' the first of the descent it was like–p.36
12:26:29.3CAHOT-1right.p.36
12:26:29.4FOHOT-2– overspeeding- so-p.36
12:26:31.4CAHOT-1good.p.36
12:26:33.2CAHOT-1three ten?p.36
12:26:34.0FOHOT-2execute.p.36
12:28:03.7FOHOT-2BBQUE at two eighty (so).p.36
12:28:06.0CAHOT-1what's that?p.36
12:28:06.5FOHOT-2BBQUE at two eighty so we gotta- *.p.37
12:28:07.8CAHOT-1yupp.37
12:28:11.3CAHOT-1should be slowin' down.p.37
12:28:12.7FOHOT-2umm I don't know so may- may have to put it in yourself.p.37
12:28:17.7CAHOT-1yeah we're (on/armed)- yeah it should.p.37
12:28:18.9FOHOT-2okay.p.37
12:28:19.4CAHOT-1should be alright.p.37
12:28:21.5FOHOT-2I think it should.p.37
12:28:59.2FOHOT-2* (*/eighty).p.37
12:29:01.2FOHOT-2put (it/the) (three/two) eighty in for the des–p.37
12:29:03.7FOHOT-2confirm.p.37
12:29:04.7CAHOT-1execute.p.37
12:29:13.4◦CAM[Sound similar to soft clack.]p.38
12:29:30.6◦CAM[Sound similar to soft clack.]p.38
12:29:47.0CAHOT-1it should slow down.p.38
12:29:48.5FOHOT-2yeahh.p.38
12:29:49.9FOHOT-2I think the thermal is causing these uplift(in/and)–p.38
12:29:52.5CAHOT-1yeah we're way below our path anyway so-p.38
12:29:54.1FOHOT-2yeahh.p.38
12:29:57.9◦CAM[Sound similar to soft clack.]p.38
12:30:07.7FOCAM-2(transition altitude.)p.38
12:30:09.4CACAM-1two eight niner eight eightp.38
12:30:13.1ATCCTRGiant thirty-five ninety-one contact Houston Approach one one niner point six two.p.38
12:30:17.9CARDO-1nineteen sixty-two good weekend.p.38
12:30:23.6◦CAM[Sound similar to soft clack.]p.39
12:30:31.3CARDO-1Houston good afternoon Giant ah thirty-five ninety-one seventeen eight descending via the LINKK and we have sierra.p.39
12:30:37.7ATCAPPGiant thirty-five ninety-one- heavy- Houston- good afternoon- it looks like tango is current. altimeter is two niner niner one and they might be updating that as well. you can fly the runway two six left transition.p.39
12:30:49.9CARDO-1two six left transition thank you much and ninety-one on the meter.p.39
12:30:52.9◦CAM[Sound similar to two mic clicks.]p.39
12:30:53.5CAHOT-1ninety-one.p.39
12:30:54.5FOHOT-2set.p.39
12:30:55.5CAHOT-1ninety-one.p.39
12:30:56.4FOHOT-2okay.p.39
12:30:58.4CAHOT-1two six left and do do do do the departure.p.39
12:31:04.7CAHOT-1LINKK two six left.p.39
12:31:10.2CAHOT-1ahhh...p.40
12:31:15.8CAHOT-1GARRR?p.40
12:31:16.9FOHOT-2yeah.p.40
12:31:18.3FOHOT-2two six left.p.40
12:31:20.8FOHOT-2so then the-p.40
12:31:23.3FOHOT-2GARRR.p.40
12:31:24.6FOHOT-2GARRR at seven thousand.p.40
12:31:27.7CAHOT-1I mean you should still be GARRR- right?p.40
12:31:28.9FOHOT-2yeah. still GARRR.p.40
12:31:29.7CAHOT-1yeah.p.40
12:31:30.5FOHOT-2yeah,p.40
12:31:34.7CAHOT-1VANNN- LINKK GILLL GARRR VANNN MKAYE- that's good- okay.p.40
12:31:37.9FOHOT-2I agree- same.p.41
12:31:39.0CAHOT-1alright now- uhhh approach.p.41
12:31:50.0CAHOT-1(chillin')p.41
12:31:58.0CAHOT-1alright- altimeter's two nine nine one.p.41
12:32:02.6CAHOT-1set- um- approach check's complete.p.41
12:32:02.7FOHOT-2two nine–p.41
12:32:05.0FOHOT-2checklist complete.p.41
12:32:12.5CAHOT-1alright one oh nine seven.p.41
12:32:15.1CAHOT-1two sixty-seven.p.41
12:32:19.1CAHOT-1aaand...p.41
12:32:30.9CAHOT-1evaluation looks fine- everything looks good so-p.41
12:32:37.8FOHOT-2LINKK between fifteen and twelve.p.41
12:32:42.6FOHOT-2I think it's doin' a bad job today (but)-p.41
12:32:44.0CAHOT-1what's that I can't hear ya.p.42
12:32:44.9FOHOT-2I sayyy LLL-LINKK between fifteen and twelve I think is doin' a bad job.p.42
12:32:49.5FOHOT-2[sound of stutter.]p.42
12:32:53.2FOHOT-2on this *–p.42
12:32:53.6CAHOT-1that looks to me like it's on glide.p.42
12:32:55.6FOHOT-2yeahhh it's on glide buttt- I I think it-p.42
12:32:59.0CAHOT-1it got confused back there cause we passed- two thousand feet above what it was planning on doing.p.42
12:33:04.8FOHOT-2yeah.p.42
12:33:05.5CAHOT-1I mean two- two thousand feet below.p.42
12:33:06.2FOHOT-2oh okay- it's coming in now. it's dropping the speed- should have dropped the speed a little sooner than that I think.p.42
12:33:14.3FOHOT-2it's within ten knots so it's good.p.42
12:33:19.5FOHOT-2should be two fifth- two fifty.p.43
12:33:25.9CAHOT-1yeah it's it's doin' it.p.43
12:33:27.2FOHOT-2yeah.p.43
12:33:27.6CAHOT-1we're just now LINKKs two fifty two so-p.43
12:33:29.4FOHOT-2yeah.p.43
12:33:32.8FOHOT-2eh the next one–p.43
12:33:34.4CAHOT-1I'm like you though I don't trust this thing.p.43
12:33:36.3FOHOT-2ohhh I (know)p.43
12:33:37.3CAHOT-1too- too many years in the Embraer I don't trust all this automatic flight-p.43
12:33:39.7FOHOT-2ah yeah.p.43
12:33:41.9CAHOT-1we're in a tuna can [Tuna Can - company terminology for a 767-200.] the other day- it started pickin' up the glideslope- it started doin' thisss-p.43
12:33:45.6FOHOT-2ohh yeah yeah.p.43
12:33:46.1CAHOT-1and then- this thing was doin' way worse.p.44
12:33:48.1FOHOT-2where- where were you goin'?p.44
12:33:50.9CAHOT-1either into Cincinnati or Atlanta- I can't- I think we're goin' into Atlanta- at night.p.44
12:33:53.8FOHOT-2Atlanta.p.44
12:33:56.2CAHOT-1so finally at about four thousand feet I just cut- clicked it off and flew it.p.44
12:34:01.6FOHOT-2GILLL at two forty.p.44
12:34:02.9CAHOT-1but it was very confused.p.44
12:34:04.6FOHOT-2yeah.p.44
12:34:08.8ATCAPPGiant thirty-five ninety-one heavy there is a little bit of light- well now it's showin' a little bit of heavy- light to heavy precipitation just west off it looks like VANNN and it is moving eastbound so once you get in closer if we need to go vectors around it and we'll we'll be able to accommodate that.p.44
12:34:25.2CARDO-1alright thanks for the heads up uh Giant thirty-five ninety-one.p.44
12:34:29.6RDORDO-?[Sounds similar to two mic clicks.]p.44
12:35:16.7ATCAPPGiant thirty-five ninety-one heavy contact approach on one two zero point six five.p.45
12:35:21.3CARDO-1twenty sixty-five have a good afternoon.p.45
12:35:23.7ATCAPPyou too.p.45
12:35:25.5CAHOT-1love you.p.45
12:35:39.6CARDO-1hello approach Giant umm thirty-five ninety-one eleven four descending via the LINKK and we have uh tango.p.45
12:35:47.4ATCAPP'kay Giant thirty-five ninety-one Houston Approach it will be vectors runway two six left. how (do) you wanna get around this stuff? you wanna go- uh- to the east of it and go- join up on the north side or what do you wantin' to do?p.45
12:35:59.3CARDO-1one second I'll get right back with you.p.45
12:36:03.7FOHOT-2okay.p.45
12:36:07.1FOHOT-2okay – I just had a ( * / fff) [End of statement cut off by a quick exhale, or the sound of possible phonetic “F”.]p.45
12:36:09.4CAHOT-1[Sound of quick laugh.]p.45
12:36:09.9FOHOT-2your controls.p.46
12:36:10.8CAHOT-1great. my controls.p.46
12:36:11.8FOHOT-2ahh *.p.46
12:36:12.5CAHOT-1ahhh-p.46
12:36:13.4FOHOT-2LNAV VNAV center autopilot.p.46
12:36:14.2CAHOT-1want to go to- east side?p.46
12:36:17.2FOHOT-2ehuh?p.46
12:36:19.2FOHOT-2LNAV VNAV center autopilot.p.46
12:36:19.3CAHOT-1alright we can go around it- alright my controls.p.46
12:36:20.6FOHOT-2so- okay-p.46
12:36:21.4FORDO-2Giant uh thirty-five uh six- sorry thirty-five and ninety-one we will go on the west side.p.46
12:36:28.9ATCAPPalright the only problem we have with that right now there's a bunch of departures departin' out right at ya so we're gunna do–p.47
12:36:33.4FORDO-2okay- depart- okay–p.47
12:36:34.0ATCAPPall the way down.p.47
12:36:34.9FORDO-2okay then we'll go on the east side then that's fine just go ahead and direct us.p.47
12:36:40.4CAHOT-1we got lots of fuel so-p.47
12:36:41.7FOHOT-2yeah.p.47
12:36:45.4ATCAPPGiant thirty-five ninety-one descend and maintain three thousand- hustle all the way down I'm gunna get ya west of this weather and northbound for a baseleg.p.47
12:36:51.6FORDO-2down to three thousand and all the way down Giant thirty-five uh ninety-one so we gunna delete the arrival just gunna go straight down.p.47
12:36:55.2CACAM-1three thousand set.p.47
12:37:00.4FOHOT-2okay so one second. okay so we gunna hold off on that checklist. right?p.47
12:37:07.2FOHOT-2E-fy. [EFI button.]p.48
12:37:08.5HOTHOT-?E-fy.p.48
12:37:08.9FOHOT-2okay I got it back.p.48
12:37:09.5CAHOT-1now it's back. [Sound of quick laugh.]p.48
12:37:10.1◦CAM[Sound of quick two beeps. Frequency not discernible.]p.48
12:37:11.5FOHOT-2I press the E-fy button- it fixes everything.p.48
12:37:13.7CAHOT-1oh ya ya.p.48
12:37:16.2ATCAPPand Giant thirty-five ninety-one turn left heading two seven zero.p.48
12:37:19.5CARDO-1left turn two seven zero Giant ninety-five er um thirty five ninety-one.p.48
12:37:22.6FOHOT-2okay.p.48
12:37:23.5FOHOT-2two seven zero.p.48
12:37:23.9CAHOT-1alright your controls.p.48
12:37:24.8FOHOT-2my controls.p.49
12:37:27.4CAHOT-1alright so I will pull it out from- umm where see where they pull us in.p.49
12:37:30.4FOHOT-2okay.p.49
12:37:31.0CAHOT-1probably from JEPNI.p.49
12:37:32.3FOHOT-2okay.p.49
12:37:46.3CAHOT-1you want it out from JEPNI or GRIEG?p.49
12:37:48.0FOHOT-2* *.p.49
12:37:51.9FOCAM-2umm let's make it GRIEG.p.49
12:37:54.7CAHOT-1GRIEGp.49
12:37:58.2CAHOT-1GRIEG and two sixty-seven.p.49
12:38:00.6FOHOT-2okay.p.49
12:38:00.9CAHOT-1GRIEG two sixty-seven.p.49
12:38:02.2FOHOT-2'kay flaps one.p.49
12:38:04.8◦CAM[Sound of mechanical click.]p.50
12:38:05.1FOHOT-2thank you.p.50
12:38:06.1CAHOT-1confirm. confirm.p.50
12:38:07.3FOHOT-2execute.p.50
12:38:08.7CAHOT-1LNAVs available.p.50
12:38:09.9FOHOT-2LNAV is...p.50
12:38:14.3CAHOT-1not on intercept heading.p.50
12:38:15.0FOHOT-2no (your on/it's on) a heading right?p.50
12:38:16.7CAHOT-1oh we're supposed to be on heading- yeah.p.50
12:38:17.9FOHOT-2yeah.p.50
12:38:31.1◦CAM[Sound of click.]2p.50
12:38:35.1ATCAPPGiant thirty-five ninety-one in about another eighteen miles or so we'll cut you due north(bound) for a base leg. 2 The group was reconvened on November 14, 2019. This sound was not initially heard during the first transcription sitting of the group on March 5, 2019. After the generation of the Sound Spectrum Study, which can be found in the public docket for this accident, all members of the group were able to detect this sound when directed to the area of interest on the recording.p.50
12:38:40.3◦CAM[Sound of four beeps within a duration of .75 seconds at a frequency of 1200 Hz.]3p.51
12:38:41.4CARDO-1sounds good uh Giant thirty-five ninety-one.p.51
12:38:43.6ATCAPPit is severe clear on the other side of this stuff so you'll have no problem gettin' the airport *(either).p.51
12:38:43.6FOCAM-2(oh)p.51
12:38:44.0◦CAM[Sound similar to a mechanical click.]p.51
12:38:45.0FOCAM-2woah. [Spoken in elevated voice.]p.51
12:38:45.9FOCAM-2(where's) my speed my speed [Spoken in elevated voice.]p.51
12:38:46.9◦CAM[Sound similar to louder mechanical click.]p.51
12:38:47.3CARDO-1okay.p.51
12:38:47.9◦CAM[Sound similar to multiple random thumping noises.] 3 Refer to Sound Spectrum Study for a detailed examination of tones detected on the recording.p.51
12:38:48.0FOHOT-2we're stalling. [Spoken in elevated voice.]p.52
12:38:50.5FOHOT-2stall. [Exclaimed.]p.52
12:38:51.9HOTHOT-?#.p.52
12:38:52.3FOHOT-2oh Lord have mercy myself. [Spoken in elevated voice.]p.52
12:38:53.3◦CAM[Sound similar to multiple random thumping noises.]p.52
12:38:53.9FOHOT-2Lord have mercy. [Exclaimed.]p.52
12:38:55.1FOHOT-2@Capt. [Spoken in elevated voice.]p.52
12:38:55.7CAHOT-1what's goin' on?p.52
12:38:56.0FOHOT-2(Lord)– [Spoken in elevated voice.]p.52
12:38:56.3◦CAM[Sound of 1000 Hz series of beeps with approximately .25 second spacing begin. Group could not determine if audible sound lasted until end of recording.] 4p.52
12:38:56.4FOHOT-2@Capt. [Spoken in elevated voice.] 4 Refer to Sound Spectrum Study for a detailed examination of tones detected on the recording.p.52
12:38:56.6OBCAM-3what's goin' on? [Spoken in an elevated voice.]p.53
12:38:56.8HOTHOT-?[Sound of rapid breathing.]p.53
12:38:57.4FOHOT-2@Capt-p.53
12:38:58.1◦CAM[Sound of quick series of four beeps at 1200 Hz.] 5p.53
12:38:58.9◦CAM[Sound of longer duration pulse tone about 1000 Hz, similar to Siren. Group could not determine if audible sounds lasted until end of recording.] 6p.53
12:38:59.4OBCAM-3* pull up. [Shouted.]p.53
12:39:00.9FOHOT-2[Unintelligible shout.]p.53
12:39:02.0HOTHOT-?(oh God). [Shouted.]p.53
12:39:02.0FOHOT-2Lord * * you have my soul. [Shouted.]p.53