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Boeing 737Southwest Airlines

608 lines · 07:16:26.5 – 09:22:27.8 · Burbank, CA, 2018-12-06

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Crew communication

608 lines readobservations a human-factors reviewer takes from a transcript — the sterile cockpit, the Board's own notations, rhythm, CRM markers. Not emotions, not scores: the affect is in the audio, and the audio is sealed
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floor share · CA / FO %
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non-pertinent talk in sterile window
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laughter · delivery · expletives
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crew questions unanswered in 8 s
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warnings with a crew response in 5 s
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Utterances per minute, one row per speaker on one clock. shaded = sterile-cockpit window · red = end of recording.
Sterile cockpit · 14 CFR 121.542

Windows: 08:05:53–08:13:50, 08:50:57–09:03:09 · basis: recorder pressure altitude below 10,000 ft. Candidate non-pertinent lines below are a first reading for the investigator, not a finding; “@” marks the Board's own non-pertinent-word notation.

  • 08:51:53.6“eh * get a little bit of uh rain a little bit of ice I guess.”
  • 08:52:03.5“you hear the guy on guard he's calling in Operations— Delta.”
  • 08:55:22.4“we're all— we're all depending on you. we're all counting—”
  • 08:57:24.5“yup. where we gonna go? L-A? if we can't get in here.”
  • 08:58:05.4“so it'll swap around here somewhere I guess.”
  • 08:59:43.2“probably go to uh you know high— or whatever it is— low on the wipers as we get closer in.”
  • 09:00:55.2“so far George [autopilot] has got a handle on it. not doing too bad.”
  • 09:01:32.6“yeah I'll take high now. on those wipers.”
The Board’s own notations

Delivery and physiological notes the transcribers added in brackets, plus # expletives. 29 words are marked unintelligible (*).

  • #08:18:14.4“ooh. that's gonna be close on the # I-L-S . three hundred— few at three hundred I guess. it's not a ceiling at three hundred so we'll be alright there.”
  • #08:21:31.0“the # winds are shifting.”
  • #08:24:52.9“yeah it's wet with a tailwind...and # short runway.”
  • sound of grunt08:26:04.4“yeah God bless somebody must have kicked my # last night while I was asleep. [sound of grunt] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Source”
  • #08:26:04.4“yeah God bless somebody must have kicked my # last night while I was asleep. [sound of grunt] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Source”
  • #08:26:36.7“really wow. no # that's cool.”
  • #08:30:19.1“yeah there's that couple who bought that boat are still in their apartment so I just crash over there lots of times. we were supposed to sail yesterday but it was so crappy in the morning we blew it off. yeah. we tried to sail the day before that but we got about fifteen minutes of good sailing in and then the wind just went to # just [sound of flatulence]. we're just sitting there like a # bobber.”
  • #08:33:15.9“I don't know. [sound of laughter] I'm not sure what the # that guy's saying.”
  • #08:39:42.3“what the #.”
  • #08:39:54.7“what the #.”
  • #08:39:58.7“yeah I don't uh...stupid # thing. and now it's trying to push the # power up.”
  • #08:40:18.8“it'll # take you right—”
  • #08:40:27.0“you're getting a headwind now. you'll be able to get this # down. alright”
  • #08:44:55.3“yes you sound like you got a #— well never mind.”
  • #08:48:58.4“whatever that means I'm just going like go level change and # it to nine.”
  • #08:50:12.9“we're gonna hit ROKKR where we should have # hit ROKKR.”
  • #08:51:41.8“roger. nice. there's some nice # out here.”
  • #08:54:08.6“chaos ensuing after MIKEI. look at this man what a # day. bout time these guys down here got some of it.”
  • #08:54:23.3“put two ten in at SILEX just so this # starts slowing down a little bit. [sound of laughter]”
  • #08:54:29.1“[sound of laughter] there you go *. #. alright.”
  • #08:54:58.8“perfect. alright. suggest holding— well you don't want # to be too fast you won't get the thing shut down. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Source”
  • #09:01:41.3“#.”
  • automated voice09:02:22.0“one hundred. [automated voice]”
  • automated voice09:02:25.2“fifty. [automated voice]”
  • +10 more
Silences of 45 s or more
Concerns voiced, and what followed

Hedged or questioning lines from one pilot in the critical window, with the other pilot’s next words.

  • 08:51:47.6“what the hell is all of that?”
    → 08:51:53.6“eh * get a little bit of uh rain a little bit of ice I guess.”
  • 08:59:10.1“roger. you got twenty six thirty one. that would probably behoove us to be a little bit hot but I don't know.”
    → 08:59:16.4“alright.”
  • 09:01:14.0“yeah I might— I don't know if that's ground or what.”
    → 09:01:16.4“well you got six positive so.”
  • 09:17:32.4“well uh— I don't know um yeah we— we didn't uh the engines shut down let me ask *. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Source”
    → 09:17:39.7“yeah they shut down on their own. 0917:40.7 yeah the engines shut down on their own. um like I— I”
  • 09:17:39.7“was gonna ask the F-O you know should we shut the engines down and then they were down with the uh start levers were in idle.”
    → no reply from the other pilot in the next lines
Warnings and the response
  • 08:22:21.2[sound similar to altitude alert]
    → 1.3 s later: 08:22:22.5“thirty two thirty three. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Source”
  • 08:50:58.7[sound similar to altitude alert]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 08:51:48.9[sound similar to altitude alert]
    → 1.9 s later: 08:51:50.8“that's pretty.”
  • 08:53:19.5[sound similar to altitude alert]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 09:02:01.8[sound similar to autopilot disconnect]
    → 0.4 s later: 09:02:02.2“roger.”
  • 09:02:55.7[sounds of impact]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 09:05:14.6Crash two Burbank Tower. proceed as requested. cross all runways as necessary.
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 09:06:40.4Crash two Burbank tower did you copy all that? DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Source
    → 3.5 s later: 09:06:43.9“let's see here.”
  • 09:06:52.3Crash two thank you.
    → 3.2 s later: 09:06:55.5“okay so we're not evacuating. let's see. I guess we could do flaps up.”
  • 09:17:20.4Crash two Burbank Tower.
    → no crew words within 5 s
Questions between the pilots left unanswered
Standard callouts
MinimumsGear downV1 · not in transcriptRotate / Vr · not in transcriptV2 · not in transcriptPositive rate · not in transcriptGear up · not in transcript1,000 ft · not in transcript500 ft · not in transcriptRunway in sight · not in transcriptGo around · not in transcriptStabilized · not in transcript

“Not in transcript” never means “not said”: a line may be unintelligible, or the recording may not cover that phase.

Language, as counts
Speakerwordsquestionshedgesexclamationsexpletiveschecklistsnon-pertinent lines
Captain2,1061312118024
First officer2,60727142323030
Observer / jumpseat249320009

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09:14:27.4BURBURwinds are two eight zero at one one gust one niner. 0916:08.7 information mike is now current. wind two ninerp.4
09:14:27.4BURBURzero at four. runway one five in use. wind three zero zero at seven. DCA19IA036 Attachment Ip.4
09:14:27.4CVRCVRQuality Rating Scale The levels of recording quality are characterized by the following traits of the cockpit voice recorder information: Excellent Quality Virtually all of the crew conversations could be accurately and easily understood. The transcript that was developed may indicate only one or two words that were not intelligible. Any loss in the transcript is usually attributed to simultaneous cockpit/radio transmissions that obscure each other. Good Quality Most of the crew conversations could be accurately and easily understood. The transcript that was developed may indicate several words or phrases that were not intelligible. Any loss in the transcript can be attributed to minor technical deficiencies or momentary dropouts in the recording system or to a large number of simultaneous cockpit/radio transmissions that obscure each other. Fair Quality The majority of the crew conversations were intelligible. The transcript that was developed may indicate passages where conversations were unintelligible or fragmented. This type of recording is usually caused by cockpit noise that obscures portions of the voice signals or by a minor electrical or mechanical failure of the CVR system that distorts or obscures the audio information. Poor Quality Extraordinary means had to be used to make some of the crew conversations intelligible. The transcript that was developed may indicate fragmented phrases and conversations and may indicate extensive passages where conversations were missing or unintelligible. This type of recording is usually caused by a combination of a high cockpit noise level with a low voice signal (poor signal-to- noise ratio) or by a mechanical or electrical failure of the CVR system that severely distorts or obscures the audio information. Unusable Crew conversations may be discerned, but neither ordinary nor extraordinary means made it possible to develop a meaningful transcript of the conversations. This type of recording is usually caused by an almost total mechanical or electrical failure of the CVR system. DCA19IA036 Transcript of a Allied Signal 6022 solid-state cockpit voice recorder, serial number 2688, installed on an Southwest Airlines Boeing 737-700 (N752SW), which overran the runway after landing at Bob Hope Airport in Burbank, California. LEGENDp.5
09:14:27.4◦CAMCockpit area microphone voice or sound sourcep.6
09:14:27.4◦HOTFlight crew audio panel voice or sound sourcep.6
09:14:27.4RDORDORadio transmissions from N752SWp.6
09:14:27.4INTINTAircraft interphone sound sourcep.6
09:14:27.4PAPAAircraft public address system sound sourcep.6
09:14:27.4OAKOAKRadio transmission from Oakland Center controllerp.6
09:14:27.4LAXLAXRadio transmission from Los Angeles Center controllerp.6
09:14:27.4SOCSOCALRadio transmission from the SOCAL Approach controllerp.6
09:14:27.4BURBURRadio transmission from the Burbank airport tower controller BRK068 Radio transmission from Bauhunia flight 68 EJA420 Radio transmission from ExecJet flight 420p.6
09:14:27.4ATCOPSRadio transmission from Southwest Burbank Operations Crash2 Radio transmission from Crash 2 VAN41 Radio transmission from Van 41 CAR43 Radio transmission from Car 43 -1 Voice identified as the captain -2 Voice identified as the first officer -3 Voice identified as a flight attendant -4 Voice identified as a flight attendant -? Voice unidentified * Unintelligible word # Expletive @ Non-pertinent word [ ] Editorial insertion Note 1: Times are expressed in pacific daylight time (PST). Note 2: Generally, only radio transmissions to and from the accident aircraft were transcribed. Note 3: Words shown with excess vowels, letters, or drawn out syllables are a phonetic representation of the words as spoken. Note 4: A non-pertinent word, where noted, refers to a word not directly related to the operation, control or condition of the aircraft. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.6
07:16:26.5STASTARTOF RECORDINGp.7
08:18:14.4STASTARTOF TRANSCRIPTp.7
08:18:14.4FOHOT-2ooh. that's gonna be close on the # I-L-S . three hundred— few at three hundred I guess. it's not a ceiling at three hundred so we'll be alright there.p.7
08:18:43.0FOHOT-2yeah. I-L-S is your lowest mins so.p.7
08:19:13.5FORDO-2Oakland Southwest two seventy eight two five zero for two seven zero.p.7
08:19:17.5OAKOAKSouthwest two seventy eight Oakland Center roger. climb maintain flight level three three zero. light to moderate chop in the climb uh pretty good ride up at altitude.p.7
08:19:24.4FORDO-2okay up to three three zero now Southwest two seventy eight.p.7
08:19:27.9FOHOT-2alright. thirty three is higher than *.p.7
08:19:32.6CAHOT-1okay.p.7
08:19:33.1FOHOT-2release **. [stepped on] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.7
08:19:42.3FOHOT-2dude. what a pretty day man.p.8
08:20:52.1FOHOT-2there it is. good Lord.p.8
08:20:55.7CAHOT-1yeah I tried to slow it down a little bit. hoping I could kind of punch up through it and then it just fricking runs out of gas.p.8
08:21:31.0FOHOT-2the # winds are shifting.p.8
08:21:57.9◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.8
08:22:10.7◦CAM[sound of double chime]p.8
08:22:16.2FOHOT-2* for two.p.8
08:22:17.3CAHOT-1two.p.8
08:22:17.9◦HOT[sound of double chime]p.8
08:22:21.2◦CAM[sound similar to altitude alert]p.8
08:22:22.5CAHOT-1thirty two thirty three. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.8
08:22:24.4FOHOT-2roger that.p.9
08:22:39.9CAHOT-1what?p.9
08:22:53.3FOHOT-2five knot tailwind one and a quarter...intense rain. hmm.p.9
08:23:12.4FOHOT-2this might be fun man.p.9
08:23:52.6CAHOT-1I'm gonna crossfeed a little bit. low side off.p.9
08:23:54.8FOHOT-2alright.p.9
08:24:02.0FOHOT-2anti-ice'll be on.p.9
08:24:27.8◦CAM[sound of double chime]p.9
08:24:44.3FOHOT-2twenty six thirty one. it's gonna have to be max. that's still not very nice.p.9
08:24:50.4CAHOT-1max. awesome.p.9
08:24:51.1FOHOT-2yup. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.9
08:24:52.9FOHOT-2yeah it's wet with a tailwind...and # short runway.p.10
08:24:58.3CAHOT-1awesome.p.10
08:25:00.0FOHOT-2yeah that's great. what could possibly go wrong. you're gonna have to earn your money man. [sound of laughter]p.10
08:25:16.5CAHOT-1yeah when you do kiss the folks goodbye just kind of tell them that—p.10
08:25:20.2FOHOT-2yeah.p.10
08:25:20.5CAHOT-1cause of the runway conditions that the braking will be uh—p.10
08:25:24.2FOHOT-2pretty abrupt.p.10
08:25:25.0CAHOT-1a— yeah.p.10
08:25:25.8FOHOT-2yeah.p.10
08:25:27.8FOHOT-2I'll have to let them know.p.10
08:25:38.8FOHOT-2should we let em up? DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.10
08:25:39.8CAHOT-1yeah.p.11
08:25:41.9FOHOT-2yup.p.11
08:25:42.6CAHOT-1cool.p.11
08:25:43.1FOHOT-2I'll talk to them when we get there.p.11
08:25:45.4FOHOT-2alright man.p.11
08:25:46.3CAHOT-1sounds like a plan-ski.p.11
08:25:48.4FOHOT-2sounds like a weener.p.11
08:25:51.2FOHOT-2no comm on the ACARS. thank God we got our numbers.p.11
08:25:55.6CAHOT-1[sound of laughter] yeah it seems to crap out a lot lately.p.11
08:25:58.1FOHOT-2yeah it does.p.11
08:26:04.4FOHOT-2yeah God bless somebody must have kicked my # last night while I was asleep. [sound of grunt] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.11
08:26:16.7CAHOT-1watching Fox News last week. they had your quarterback— I don't know if you heard this story. he showed up at like a Dick's Sporting Goods and he's walking around and he had like— I don't know— thirty hundred dollar gift cards and every kid he saw he'd walk up to the kid shake his hand and give him a— a Dick's gift card.p.12
08:26:36.7FOHOT-2really wow. no # that's cool.p.12
08:26:38.5CAHOT-1yeah. yeah. just kind of out of the blue.p.12
08:26:42.7FOHOT-2that's cool. that's kind of a class act. I'm glad he's going that way instead of the thinking I'm the best thing that's ever walked the pla— planet way.p.12
08:26:49.8CAHOT-1yup. yup.p.12
08:26:51.9CAHOT-1they had a little interview with him uh and I don't know if it was a local channel or Fox but he just said yeah it's Christmas time want to keep the kids motivated keep them interested in sports and stuff like that.p.12
08:27:03.7FOHOT-2yeah that's cool.p.12
08:27:04.6CAHOT-1that's cool. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.12
08:27:06.1CAHOT-1alright pumps on crossfeed off. I could tell you a story here about—p.13
08:27:10.8FOHOT-2hit me.p.13
08:27:11.6CAHOT-1the ROKKR.p.13
08:27:13.7CAHOT-1starting on the page at uh let's call it RDHOT.p.13
08:27:19.4FOHOT-2okay.p.13
08:27:20.6CAHOT-1then we got HONZK at or above twenty four...PRPLE two hundred eighty knots between twenty two and twenty. XXELL between nineteen and seventeen.p.13
08:27:20.6YUTYUTOOtwo hundred seventy knots between sixteen and fourteen. TRAVV ROKKR two fifty between twelve and eleven. ZEPPE between ten and nine.p.13
08:27:20.6IVIIVINSat or above eight. MIKEI at seven and then a discontinuity...and then after MIKEI maybe just go to uh SILEX.p.13
08:27:58.6FOHOT-2okay.p.13
08:27:59.1CAHOT-1and then BUDDE and then on in.p.13
08:28:01.3FOHOT-2sounds like a plan. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.13
08:28:02.4CAHOT-1we got our I-L-S for uh runway eight. page eleven dash one.p.14
08:28:07.4FOHOT-2yup.p.14
08:28:09.9CAHOT-1um effective ten november. frequency is one oh nine point five. set courses zero seven nine set. glideslope with BUDDE at twenty seven fifty three. decision altitude is a thousand and seven. touchdown elevation is seven twenty seven. min safe coming in from the west is uh forty seven hundred. missed out to the east is ninety three hundred. three degree glideslope. PAPIs on the left hand side and they got MALSRs too. missed approach is straight ahead * thirteen hundred. climbing right turn forty six hundred on a two ten heading and then uh go out to hold at Ventura.p.14
08:28:53.2FOHOT-2alright.p.14
08:28:54.2CAHOT-1we need uh R-V-R five hundred or a mile and we got uh a mile and a quarter and rain. autobrake will be max. we will uh roll out cross uh one five and then park at alpha two and no cervezas.p.14
08:29:14.8FOHOT-2sounds like a plan.p.14
08:29:17.4CAHOT-1roger that. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.14
08:29:18.6FOHOT-2minimums?p.15
08:29:20.3CAHOT-1are set.p.15
08:29:21.3FOHOT-2V ref target?p.15
08:29:22.7CAHOT-1was uh twenty six thirty one. set noted.p.15
08:29:24.8FOHOT-2okay autobrake?p.15
08:29:27.1CAHOT-1max-o.p.15
08:29:28.3FOHOT-2and recall?p.15
08:29:30.1CAHOT-1check-o.p.15
08:29:32.7HOTHOT-?*. [stepped on]p.15
08:30:14.8CAHOT-1so you were in the van last night?p.15
08:30:16.9FOHOT-2no I stayed at a buddy's place.p.15
08:30:18.0FOHOT-2oh okay. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.15
08:30:19.1FOHOT-2yeah there's that couple who bought that boat are still in their apartment so I just crash over there lots of times. we were supposed to sail yesterday but it was so crappy in the morning we blew it off. yeah. we tried to sail the day before that but we got about fifteen minutes of good sailing in and then the wind just went to # just [sound of flatulence]. we're just sitting there like a # bobber.p.16
08:30:42.1CAHOT-1[sound of laughter]p.16
08:30:43.2FOHOT-2alright we motored over tried to see some friends played around a little bit and came back and...called it a day.p.16
08:30:55.8FOHOT-2I could sail on the twelfth I've got off. I think we'll go— we may go sail **. [stepped on]p.16
08:31:06.6CAHOT-1a little shakedown cruise.p.16
08:31:07.9FOHOT-2yeah.p.16
08:31:09.8FOHOT-2yup.p.16
08:32:19.7OAKOAKSouthwest two seventy eight contact L-A Center one three five point three. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.16
08:32:24.0FORDO-2thirty five three Southwest two seventy eight. see ya.p.17
08:32:37.3FORDO-2L-A good uh morning Southwest two seventy eight three three zero. smooth ride.p.17
08:33:13.2CAHOT-1he's saying Bohemian?p.17
08:33:15.9FOHOT-2I don't know. [sound of laughter] I'm not sure what the # that guy's saying.p.17
08:33:19.2CAHOT-1yeah. [sound of laughter]p.17
08:33:20.0FOHOT-2come again? over? [sound of laughter] oh goodness.p.17
08:33:58.8CAHOT-1how many days did you have off on your last stretch? DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.17
08:34:02.0FOHOT-2two. I— yeah— I mean I— I came back— well dude I— I screwed up my bids in November so I had to work a trip uh on Thanksgiving and I uh got done Thanksgiving Day and uh I worked Thanksgiving Day and uh two days after that. I went to Germany spent eight days there came back worked that trip and went back for another six days and then I came back and worked a trip the first second and third. I've got two days off and now I've got six in a row then a day off three in a row and then done on the fifteenth. for December.p.18
08:34:36.4CAHOT-1awesome.p.18
08:34:37.0FOHOT-2yeah so I— my plan is to go over— I'm gonna go up see my mom and dad. drive the van up and leave it up at their place. spend a couple days with them. family.p.18
08:34:47.0FORDO-2go ahead.p.18
08:34:57.3FORDO-2okay we're now uh direct HIHWY for the ROKKR Two in to Burbank Southwest two seventy eight. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.18
08:35:02.6FOHOT-2alright then.p.19
08:35:08.5FOHOT-2interesting.p.19
08:35:11.5CAHOT-1okay I misspelled that I guess.p.19
08:35:13.2FOHOT-2it's— it's uh hotel india hotel whiskey yankee.p.19
08:35:17.3CAHOT-1oh okay.p.19
08:35:18.0FOHOT-2so you're gonna have to go uh the REBRG transition. here I can get it if you want. let me do this...uh where are we? uh...go— go heading select and then we got to go Burbank uh ROKKR Two * HIHWY.p.19
08:35:42.6CAHOT-1huh?p.19
08:35:45.9FOHOT-2that'll work.p.19
08:35:51.5FOHOT-2okay so now we can go direct to HIHWY. like that? does that look alright?p.19
08:35:57.4CAHOT-1yeah. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.19
08:36:00.0FOHOT-2alright then and then we could go back to LNAV...there we go.p.20
08:36:09.4FOHOT-2I have no idea.p.20
08:36:16.0FORDO-2okay descend via the ROKKR Two down to— except maintain nine thousand we're direct HIHWY at this time. Southwest uh two seventy eight.p.20
08:36:23.8FOHOT-2alright.p.20
08:36:24.2CAHOT-1okay nine thousand. we're in VNAV...twenty two miles.p.20
08:36:31.8FOHOT-2at or below twenty two to *. [stepped on]p.20
08:36:39.4CAHOT-1** [stepped on] how close the winds are out.p.20
08:36:42.5FOHOT-2twenty two to the descent point. that makes sense. okay...alright. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.20
08:36:46.5CAHOT-1it would help if I— I spelled HIHWY H-I-W-A-Y highway. [sound of laughter]p.21
08:36:51.5FOHOT-2[sound of laughter] nice. yeah. wha? yeah you would think. um. yeah but my plan is to go up there drop the van off so they can drive it because I'm gonna— I'm gonna take the last half of December first part of April. err sorry. first part of January.p.21
08:37:07.8CAHOT-1cool.p.21
08:37:08.2FOHOT-2and then come back. that'll shift all my work. so I'll work last part of January last part of February last part of March and last part of April so I'll have the beginning of April off for spring break.p.21
08:37:20.6CAHOT-1way cool.p.21
08:37:21.3FOHOT-2yeah.p.21
08:37:24.5FOHOT-2and then I've got a week of vacation at the end of February so I can do my uh— I'm gonna try to go to Belize on a sailing expedition. should be interesting.p.21
08:37:37.8CAHOT-1are you gonna do— like rent a boat down there or are you gonna crew with somebody's? DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.21
08:37:41.0FOHOT-2yeah they're uh— uh well I'm gonna— I'm trying to get a cabin with some folks and just uh— one of the big catamarans and we'll cruise around an go scuba diving and stuff. but it's a chance to sail around in the Caribbean some more. I did the Virgin— the Virgin Islands but I have not been down south like by Belize so...p.22
08:37:56.2CAHOT-1hmm.p.22
08:38:02.8CAHOT-1I'm gonna talk to the flight attendant.p.22
08:38:05.3FOHOT-2okay.p.22
08:38:15.4OBINT-3this is @.p.22
08:38:17.0CAINT-1hey @.p.22
08:38:17.8OBINT-3yes?p.22
08:38:18.3CAINT-1when we go— we'll be descending here in a little bit. probably going to be a little bumpy so uh...p.22
08:38:23.1OBINT-3**. [stepped on] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.22
08:38:24.4CAINT-1yeah it just got bumpy uh but uh it might get a little worse so uh you guys might want to do your uh cleanup anytime you get a smooth chance then we'll just ding you at ten for electronics.p.23
08:38:32.5FOPA-2alright folks from the flight deck uh fasten seatbelt sign back on if you are up and about please make your way to your seats and buckle up uh A-T-C is telling us there may be some bumps on the descent in to uh uh Burbank at least initially so we're gonna have the seatbelt sign on a little bit early. uh currently we're about a hundred miles from the field so uh we're just going to leave it on. the computer's showing us getting you there about fifteen minutes ahead of schedule which is the good news. bad news is that unlike it normally is in southern Cal it's raining so uh they got low ceilings there. uh light winds. just uh just looks like uh a drizzly day. bout uh fifty degrees right now. just a— a heads up for you as you know Burbank's got a pretty short runway and since it is wet uh the braking action when we land is going to be a little bit more abrupt than uh you are probably used to. nothing to worry about just want to make sure we get the plane slowed down so uh once we do touch down the brakes are going to come on pretty hard. uh nothing to be worried about. just hold on and we'll get you to the gate on time.p.23
08:38:35.9OBINT-3sounds good. thank you.p.23
08:39:29.2FOHOT-2alright. I'm back. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.23
08:39:31.5CAHOT-1nothing new.p.24
08:39:42.3CAHOT-1what the #.p.24
08:39:44.0FOHOT-2yeah.p.24
08:39:45.4CAHOT-1I— I— some— I don't get this VNAV sometimes.p.24
08:39:48.7FOHOT-2yeah. I— I don't—p.24
08:39:49.8CAHOT-1I mean it's— it's like your—p.24
08:39:54.7FOHOT-2what the #.p.24
08:39:55.8CAHOT-1it would have oversped.p.24
08:39:56.5FOHOT-2yeah.p.24
08:39:57.6CAHOT-1I don't get it.p.24
08:39:58.7FOHOT-2yeah I don't uh...stupid # thing. and now it's trying to push the # power up.p.24
08:40:05.5HOTHOT-?[sound of laughter] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.24
08:40:12.7CAHOT-1about once a week lately that's been doing that where it just starts going faster faster—p.25
08:40:17.8FOHOT-2yeah.p.25
08:40:17.9CAHOT-1if you— if you don't do something—p.25
08:40:18.8FOHOT-2it'll # take you right—p.25
08:40:19.8CAHOT-1you're gonna get a clacker.p.25
08:40:21.0FOHOT-2yeah.p.25
08:40:23.9FOHOT-2alright.p.25
08:40:27.0FOHOT-2you're getting a headwind now. you'll be able to get this # down. alrightp.25
08:40:36.3CAHOT-1you got to be below twenty two ahh.p.25
08:40:38.2FOHOT-2yeah.p.25
08:41:19.9FORDO-2nineteen oh five Southwest two seventy eight. we'll see ya.p.26
08:41:40.0FORDO-2L-A good morning Southwest two seventy eight uh twenty seven four on the uh ROKKR Two.p.26
08:41:52.5FORDO-2yup I forgot. uh descend via except maintain nine thousand Southwest two seventy eight.p.26
08:42:00.1FORDO-2eight six.p.26
08:42:01.6CAHOT-1eight six.p.26
08:42:25.8FOHOT-2so now it's like freaking fifteen knots slow.p.26
08:42:29.8CAHOT-1yeah I mean it— yeah it's crap.p.26
08:42:58.7CAHOT-1there is not much on the old radar but—p.27
08:43:02.0FOHOT-2yeah.p.27
08:43:37.1◦CAM[sound of double chime]p.27
08:43:41.6CAINT-1hello it's @?p.27
08:43:42.5OBINT-3okay dear I think we've got it all done and we're seated.p.27
08:43:46.3CAINT-1awesome great job.p.27
08:43:47.3OBINT-3thank you. bye.p.27
08:44:14.8FOHOT-2what could possibly go wrong?p.27
08:44:16.4HOTHOT-?[sound of laughter]p.27
08:44:18.8CAHOT-1we could break down in Burbank and just skip one of the turns. do a little maintenance fly back to Oakland and then a little trip down to Ontario.p.27
08:44:25.5FOHOT-2well. dig it. [sound of laughter] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.27
08:44:30.6CAHOT-1that's what I'm talking about.p.28
08:44:31.8FOHOT-2yup. only if we get paid extra. [sound of laughter]p.28
08:44:36.5CAHOT-1harassment pay.p.28
08:44:38.1FOHOT-2[sound of laughter] exactly.p.28
08:44:55.3FOHOT-2yes you sound like you got a #— well never mind.p.28
08:44:59.0CAHOT-1[sound of laughter]p.28
08:45:32.2FORDO-2descend via the uh ROKKR except maintain one three thousand. Southwest two seventy eight.p.28
08:45:37.6CAHOT-1okay.p.28
08:45:59.4FOHOT-2it's like Bohemia or bulimia or—p.29
08:46:01.4CAHOT-1yeah. [sound of laughter]p.29
08:46:11.2FOHOT-2you're not from around these parts are you boy?p.29
08:46:13.2CAHOT-1[sound of laughter]p.29
08:46:16.4FOHOT-2[sound of laughter]p.29
08:46:19.1FOHOT-2alright altimeters?p.29
08:46:21.2CAHOT-1uh nine eight six set.p.29
08:46:22.6FOHOT-2packs?p.29
08:46:23.1CAHOT-1auto.p.29
08:46:23.9FOHOT-2start switches?p.29
08:46:24.6CAHOT-1left continuous.p.29
08:46:25.3FOHOT-2done. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.29
08:46:47.6FORDO-2thirty two six Southwest two seventy eight. see ya.p.30
08:47:29.5CAHOT-1this guy.p.30
08:47:30.7FOHOT-2Jesus.p.30
08:47:38.7CAHOT-1where does the ZUUMA go into? do you know?p.30
08:47:42.5FOHOT-2no.p.30
08:47:43.0CAHOT-1* get rid of that dude.p.30
08:47:44.4FOHOT-2yeah.p.30
08:47:46.0CAHOT-1good God.p.30
08:47:53.8FOHOT-2got to be L-A. *. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.30
08:47:58.2FORDO-2Center Southwest two seventy eight fifteen two on thep.31
08:47:58.2ROKROKKRdown to thirteen.p.31
08:48:09.6FORDO-2got it. down to ROKKR down to nine thousand now Southwest two seventy eight.p.31
08:48:24.8FORDO-2who's that for?p.31
08:48:27.2CAHOT-1[sound of laughter] nice.p.31
08:48:29.8HOTHOT-?[sound of laughter]p.31
08:48:40.6CAHOT-1that us?p.32
08:48:41.1FOHOT-2was that— was it twenty?p.32
08:48:42.4FORDO-2say again for uh two seventy eight?p.32
08:48:46.5FORDO-2okay. say again for Southwest two seventy eight.p.32
08:48:52.6FORDO-2twenty left no delay. Southwest two seventy eight.p.32
08:48:58.4CAHOT-1whatever that means I'm just going like go level change and # it to nine.p.32
08:49:03.9FOHOT-2yeah.p.32
08:49:09.6FOHOT-2expect ROKKR he said.p.32
08:49:15.7FOHOT-2I'll double check. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.32
08:49:17.1FORDO-2L-A Southwest two seventy eight. you want us all the way down to nine or are we going to go back to ROKKR?p.33
08:49:21.6ROKROKKRdescend and maintain uh cross ROKKR at nine thousand thanks for the help.p.33
08:49:26.9FORDO-2yup not a problem man and we're cleared direct ROKKR now down to nine thousand Southwest two seventy eight.p.33
08:49:32.1FOHOT-2alright.p.33
08:49:38.1CAHOT-1ROKKR.p.33
08:49:41.1CAHOT-1on top.p.33
08:49:43.0FOHOT-2**.p.33
08:49:58.9CAHOT-1yeah we're not gonna hit ROKKR at nine.p.33
08:50:01.9FOHOT-2*.p.33
08:50:07.3CAHOT-1close enough.p.33
08:50:08.1FOHOT-2yeah. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.33
08:50:08.7CAHOT-1[sound of laughter]p.34
08:50:12.9FOHOT-2we're gonna hit ROKKR where we should have # hit ROKKR.p.34
08:50:16.5CAHOT-1yeah.p.34
08:50:29.6◦CAM[sound of double click]p.34
08:50:41.9CAHOT-1ten thousand. flight attendants notified.p.34
08:50:45.1CAHOT-1ten for niner.p.34
08:50:47.0FOHOT-2roger.p.34
08:50:58.7◦CAM[sound similar to altitude alert]p.34
08:51:09.0FORDO-2twenty eight seventy five. we'll see you guys.p.34
08:51:21.7FORDO-2Socal good morning. Southwest two seventy eight level at nine thousand on the ROKKR. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.34
08:51:35.5FORDO-2okay down to eight thousand expect runway eight got hotel Southwest two seventy eight.p.35
08:51:39.5CAHOT-1okay eight. level change.p.35
08:51:41.8FOHOT-2roger. nice. there's some nice # out here.p.35
08:51:47.6FOHOT-2what the hell is all of that?p.35
08:51:48.9◦CAM[sound similar to altitude alert]p.35
08:51:50.8FOHOT-2that's pretty.p.35
08:51:53.6CAHOT-1eh * get a little bit of uh rain a little bit of ice I guess.p.35
08:51:57.6FOHOT-2yeah.p.35
08:52:00.6FOHOT-2guard. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.35
08:52:02.0CAHOT-1[sound of laughter]p.36
08:52:03.5FOHOT-2you hear the guy on guard he's calling in Operations— Delta.p.36
08:52:14.1CAHOT-1wing on *. [stepped on]p.36
08:52:38.9FOHOT-2alrighty then. yeah. [sound of laughter]p.36
08:53:08.9FORDO-2seven thousand thirty four two Southwest two seventy eight.p.36
08:53:11.9CAHOT-1seven level change.p.36
08:53:13.3FOHOT-2roger.p.36
08:53:18.9FORDO-2Socal good morning. Southwest two seventy eight uh eight thousand for seven thousand.p.36
08:53:19.5◦CAM[sound similar to altitude alert]p.36
08:53:30.6FORDO-2at MIKEI cleared the I-L-S Zulu runway eight Southwest two seventy eight.p.37
08:53:34.0FOHOT-2alright then you heard the man yo.p.37
08:53:35.2CAHOT-1okay I'm gonna go like MIKEI to SILEX.p.37
08:53:38.3FOHOT-2big move...big move.p.37
08:53:45.1CAHOT-1I'll put three thousand in there too. go to VNAV.p.37
08:53:53.3FOHOT-2what could go wrong?p.37
08:53:54.5HOTHOT-?[sound of laughter]p.37
08:53:55.8FOHOT-2nothing.p.37
08:53:58.2FOHOT-2it's simple...good stuff man. [sound of laughter]p.37
08:54:04.7FOHOT-2steep descent after MIKEI.p.37
08:54:06.5CAHOT-1*. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.37
08:54:08.6FOHOT-2chaos ensuing after MIKEI. look at this man what a # day. bout time these guys down here got some of it.p.38
08:54:23.3CAHOT-1put two ten in at SILEX just so this # starts slowing down a little bit. [sound of laughter]p.38
08:54:29.1FOHOT-2[sound of laughter] there you go *. #. alright.p.38
08:54:45.2FORDO-2nice thanks for the heads up.p.38
08:54:47.8CAHOT-1okay.p.38
08:54:48.9FORDO-2did they give you an altitude with that.p.38
08:54:56.4FORDO-2okay thanks.p.38
08:54:58.8FOHOT-2perfect. alright. suggest holding— well you don't want # to be too fast you won't get the thing shut down. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.38
08:55:06.2FOHOT-2alright. thirteen hundred feet straight ahead right turn to forty six hundred feet on a two ten heading.p.39
08:55:12.3CAHOT-1roger.p.39
08:55:12.9FOHOT-2that one'll probably matter. [sound of laughter] we don't want— it's in there.p.39
08:55:22.4FOHOT-2we're all— we're all depending on you. we're all counting—p.39
08:55:26.0CAHOT-1that's wrong.p.39
08:55:26.7FOHOT-2[sound of laughter]p.39
08:55:33.2CAHOT-1flaps one.p.39
08:55:34.4FOHOT-2uno.p.39
08:55:35.5◦CAM[sound of click]p.39
08:55:42.8◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.39
08:55:48.2CAHOT-1flaps five. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.39
08:55:49.1◦CAM[sound of click]p.40
08:55:57.3CAHOT-1VOR LOC.p.40
08:56:02.6FOHOT-2picking up the ground. ceiling.p.40
08:56:29.3◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.40
08:56:45.5◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.40
08:56:58.7CAHOT-1flaps ten.p.40
08:56:59.6◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.40
08:57:00.3◦CAM[sound of click]p.40
08:57:00.4FOHOT-2flaps ten. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.40
08:57:05.0FORDO-2copy thanks.p.41
08:57:06.2FOHOT-2alright.p.41
08:57:22.1CAHOT-1we'll be ready Freddie.p.41
08:57:24.5FOHOT-2yup. where we gonna go? L-A? if we can't get in here.p.41
08:57:25.7◦CAM[sound of several clicks]p.41
08:57:27.7◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.41
08:57:35.4CAHOT-1VOR LOC.p.41
08:57:38.8FOHOT-2okay.p.41
08:57:39.0CAHOT-1approach armed.p.41
08:57:41.2FOHOT-2glideslope.p.41
08:57:44.3FOHOT-2you're good brother.p.41
08:57:45.3CAHOT-1okay. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.41
08:57:46.9CAHOT-1it's locked in. zeros.p.42
08:57:49.9FOHOT-2roger.p.42
08:57:59.4FOHOT-2six knots on the beak. and they're callin five knot tailwind so.p.42
08:58:01.0◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.42
08:58:05.4CAHOT-1so it'll swap around here somewhere I guess.p.42
08:58:07.4FOHOT-2yup.p.42
08:58:17.3CAHOT-1landing gear down.p.42
08:58:18.9◦CAM[sound of click]p.42
08:58:22.2CAHOT-1flaps fifteen.p.42
08:58:23.3FOHOT-2fifteen.p.42
08:58:23.9◦CAM[sound of click]p.42
08:58:37.1CAHOT-1flaps thirty. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.42
08:58:38.9FOHOT-2thirty.p.43
08:58:39.4◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.43
08:58:41.2◦CAM[sound of two clicks]p.43
08:58:43.0FOHOT-2flaps thirty.p.43
08:58:52.7CAHOT-1flaps forty.p.43
08:58:53.5◦CAM[sound of click]p.43
08:58:54.1FOHOT-2forty.p.43
08:58:57.1FORDO-2switching we'll see you guys.p.43
08:59:04.1FOHOT-2okay.p.43
08:59:05.0CAHOT-1before landing check.p.43
08:59:05.8FOHOT-2speedbrake? DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.43
08:59:06.4CAHOT-1armed green light.p.44
08:59:07.1FOHOT-2landing gear?p.44
08:59:07.6CAHOT-1down three green.p.44
08:59:08.2FOHOT-2flaps?p.44
08:59:08.4CAHOT-1thirty green light— forty green light.p.44
08:59:10.1FOHOT-2roger. you got twenty six thirty one. that would probably behoove us to be a little bit hot but I don't know.p.44
08:59:16.4CAHOT-1alright.p.44
08:59:16.6FOHOT-2okay.p.44
08:59:17.4FORDO-2Tower Southwest uh two seventy eight's with you on the I-L-S for eight.p.44
08:59:21.4BURBURSouthwest two seventy eight Burbank Tower. moderate to heavy precipitation uh current position all the way to the field. wind two six zero at niner. runway eight clear to land. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.44
08:59:31.9FORDO-2okay. copy the winds. clear to land on eight. Southwest two seventy eight.p.45
08:59:35.6CAHOT-1clear to land.p.45
08:59:36.1BURBURtwo seventy eight braking action reported good ten minutes ago by a seven thirty seven.p.45
08:59:39.0FORDO-2roger thanks.p.45
08:59:40.8FOHOT-2alright man.p.45
08:59:43.2CAHOT-1probably go to uh you know high— or whatever it is— low on the wipers as we get closer in.p.45
08:59:50.2FOHOT-2alright.p.45
08:59:52.0CAHOT-1okay there's are BUDDE twenty sevenish.p.45
08:59:55.6FOHOT-2alright BUDDE. crosschecked.p.45
09:00:01.4◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.45
09:00:02.9◦HOT[sound of music] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.45
09:00:06.4FOHOT-2[sound of laughter]p.46
09:00:09.5CAHOT-1shh did I hear some music?p.46
09:00:23.0BURBURSouth two uh— Southwest two seventy eight area of heavy precipitation now directly over top of Burbank Airport.p.46
09:00:28.5FORDO-2perfect thanks.p.46
09:00:30.1CAHOT-1[sound of laughter]p.46
09:00:30.6FOHOT-2[sound of laughter] alright man. you got it's actually quartering tailwind right now so we're already got part of that switch done.p.46
09:00:39.8CAHOT-1okay. works for me.p.46
09:00:41.8FOHOT-2yup.p.46
09:00:42.5BURBURwind two seven zero at one zero.p.46
09:00:48.1FOHOT-2zero...two sixty at ten is— is the max.p.46
09:00:51.3CAHOT-1max. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.46
09:00:53.3FOHOT-2alright.p.47
09:00:55.2CAHOT-1so far George [autopilot] has got a handle on it. not doing too bad.p.47
09:01:05.4◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.47
09:01:06.2FOHOT-2okay.p.47
09:01:07.4◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.47
09:01:07.4CAHOT-1a thousand feet. one thirty four. sinking a thousand.p.47
09:01:10.2FOHOT-2a thousand feet. you're showing— your not showing anything on the radars.p.47
09:01:14.0CAHOT-1yeah I might— I don't know if that's ground or what.p.47
09:01:16.4FOHOT-2well you got six positive so.p.47
09:01:21.1FOHOT-2and a thousand feet I saw it.p.47
09:01:21.3◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.47
09:01:22.3◦CAM[sound similar to windshield wipers]p.48
09:01:22.8CAHOT-1yeah.p.48
09:01:26.8FOHOT-2that's twenty knots on the butt.p.48
09:01:32.6CAHOT-1yeah I'll take high now. on those wipers.p.48
09:01:34.9◦CAM[sound similar to trim wheel in motion]p.48
09:01:36.2BURBURwind two seven zero at one one.p.48
09:01:41.3FOHOT-2#.p.48
09:01:43.2FOHOT-2er there's five hundred.p.48
09:01:44.8CAHOT-1roger.p.48
09:01:48.9CAHOT-1we need some kind of lights. I got some lights.p.48
09:01:51.6FOHOT-2alright we got eleven knots. you want to call it good?p.48
09:01:54.5CAHOT-1yeah. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.48
09:01:55.0FOHOT-2alright.p.49
09:01:55.8FOHOT-2approaching mins.p.49
09:01:56.6CAHOT-1going outside.p.49
09:01:57.8FOHOT-2roger.p.49
09:02:00.5FOHOT-2minimums. you got *?p.49
09:02:01.2CAHOT-1landing.p.49
09:02:01.8◦CAM[sound similar to autopilot disconnect]p.49
09:02:02.2FOHOT-2roger.p.49
09:02:22.0◦CAMone hundred. [automated voice]p.49
09:02:25.2◦CAMfifty. [automated voice]p.49
09:02:27.5◦CAMthirty. [automated voice]p.49
09:02:30.7◦CAMten. [automated voice] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.49
09:02:34.8◦CAM[sound similar to speedbrake handle]p.50
09:02:35.4◦CAM[sound similar to landing gear touchdown]p.50
09:02:36.5◦CAM[sounds similar to thrust reverser handle deployment]p.50
09:02:42.2◦CAM[sound similar to heavier vibration]p.50
09:02:44.8FOHOT-2come on baby.p.50
09:02:48.0CAHOT-1whoa-ah.p.50
09:02:51.8CAHOT-1#.p.50
09:02:52.9FOHOT-2*.p.50
09:02:54.4◦CAM[sound similar to engine rpm decrease]p.50
09:02:54.5CAHOT-1#.p.50
09:02:55.7◦CAM[sounds of impact]p.50
09:02:56.9◦CAM[sound similar to engine rpm decrease] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.50
09:02:59.9HOTHOT-?shut em off.p.51
09:03:00.6HOTHOT-?#.p.51
09:03:04.9CAHOT-1are the engines still on?p.51
09:03:06.0FOHOT-2no I shut em off.p.51
09:03:08.2CAHOT-1#.p.51
09:03:12.4FOHOT-2dude that— [Loss of power from 0903:13 to 0904:10]p.51
09:04:10.0◦CAM[sound of chime]p.51
09:04:17.7CAINT-1hey guys? yeah we had full braking and then we went in to the overrun. so the engines shut down. we're gonna have to get towed out of here. we're probably have to have a uh ladders to come get the folks. so it's going to be a bit.p.51
09:04:30.4INTINT-4oh okay.p.51
09:04:31.9FOHOT-2alright so we got power back on the jet. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.51
09:04:33.9INTINT-4so it's going to be a bit. copy that.p.52
09:04:34.2OBINT-3okay okay. so just stay put? * right now.p.52
09:04:36.4CAINT-1yeah just stay put.p.52
09:04:38.0OBINT-3okay alright. will do. um don't disarm or anything?p.52
09:04:40.2◦CAM[sound similar to windshield wipers stop]p.52
09:04:41.4INTINT-4no don't disarm.p.52
09:04:41.9CAINT-1nope.p.52
09:04:42.6OBINT-3alrighty. will do.p.52
09:04:43.4INTINT-4okay. thanks.p.52
09:04:44.5OBINT-3will wait to hear from you.p.52
09:04:45.5◦CAMmonitor radar display. [automated voice]p.52
09:04:50.0CARDO-1ops two seventy eight. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.52
09:04:53.5ATCOPSgo for ops.p.53
09:04:54.7CARDO-1yeah we went in to the overrun. and uh the engines— we probably fodded the engines. we're going to need a tow out of here.p.53
09:05:05.1ATCOPScopy that.p.53
09:05:10.2CAHOT-1have you talked to tower?p.53
09:05:11.5FOCAM-2yeah they talked to us. they said they were rolling the trucks.p.53
09:05:14.6BURBURCrash two Burbank Tower. proceed as requested. cross all runways as necessary.p.53
09:05:24.1FORDO-2okay. Tower Southwest two seventy eight. motors are shutdown. no fire hazard. we got the APU running we have power on the aircraft.p.53
09:05:34.2BURBURSouthwest twenty eight Burbank Tower you on? DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.53
09:05:37.9FORDO-2yeah we're with you can you copy me?p.54
09:05:39.9BURBURSouthwest twenty eighty eight are you on?p.54
09:05:42.8FOHOT-2oh that's twenty eighty eight.p.54
09:06:09.2FOHOT-2how fast were we going when we went off the end. we weren't going very fast.p.54
09:06:14.2CAHOT-1I don't know. I— man. I had— I had all I could give it.p.54
09:06:16.8FOHOT-2oh dude you— you're fine. you were— it was just like it was too much.p.54
09:06:21.7FORDO-2hey Tower Southwest two seventy eight. you copy us?p.54
09:06:25.2BURBURSouthwest two seventy eight affirmative.p.54
09:06:27.4FORDO-2okay. copy. just want to make sure you copy. we got power on the aircraft. uh motors are obviously shut down. we're just sitting tight here. no problem.p.54
09:06:39.4FOHOT-2okay.p.54
09:06:40.4BURBURCrash two Burbank tower did you copy all that? DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.54
09:06:43.9CAHOT-1let's see here.p.55
09:06:52.3BURBURCrash two thank you.p.55
09:06:55.5CAHOT-1okay so we're not evacuating. let's see. I guess we could do flaps up.p.55
09:07:01.0CAHOT-1uhh or do you want to leave it?p.55
09:07:01.7FOHOT-2I would just leave it.honestly.p.55
09:07:02.3CAHOT-1okay. what do you think we need to do on here?p.55
09:07:07.4FOHOT-2well #.p.55
09:07:09.9CAHOT-1uh start levers are cutoff.p.55
09:07:11.0FOHOT-2yeah.p.55
09:07:12.2CAHOT-1talked to tower. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.55
09:07:13.7FOHOT-2I don't know if we even need to pull those. you think?p.56
09:07:16.7CAHOT-1no.p.56
09:07:17.3FOHOT-2I wouldn't do it. I mean they're shut down.p.56
09:07:20.7◦CAM[sound of two clicks]p.56
09:07:22.4FOHOT-2run the after just see if you don't want to move those.p.56
09:07:27.5FOHOT-2ah that that that.p.56
09:07:29.7CAHOT-1# #. that that.p.56
09:07:39.7CAHOT-1I got that— I'm gonna grab that. I got one of those cards it's like if you have an incident thing.p.56
09:07:44.3FOHOT-2yeah okay. I got it right here I think.p.56
09:07:47.8CAHOT-1you got it?p.56
09:07:50.0FOHOT-2yeah right here.p.56
09:08:01.6◦CAM[sound of double chime] DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.56
09:08:05.3OBINT-3hey.p.57
09:08:06.1CAINT-1go ahead.p.57
09:08:06.5OBINT-3* that want to go to the bathroom. want to let them up or no?p.57
09:08:10.2CAINT-1yeah one— just one person. we're still trying to sort this out. I'm sorry.p.57
09:08:13.4OBINT-3okay. that's okay.p.57
09:08:14.6CAINT-1okay.p.57
09:08:14.8OBINT-3thanks bye.p.57
09:08:22.5CAHOT-1okay I'm— I'm gonna— do you mind handling radios? I'm gonna call these guys real quick.p.57
09:08:50.3FORDO-2hey tower Southwest two seventy eight. you want us to stay with you or go to ground?p.57
09:08:54.7BURBURSouthwest two seventy eight um you can just monitor this frequency I don't think you're going anywhere for a while. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.57
09:09:00.7FORDO-2yeah okay. sounds good.p.58
09:10:27.9FORDO-2he's asking if you have a frequency you want to go to for everybody working with two seventy eight.p.58
09:10:39.2CACAM-1hey @ this is @ on two seventy eight Burbank.p.58
09:10:43.4FORDO-2tower did you copy Southwest two seventy eight? the handheld that your having trouble understanding is asking for a single freq to deal with all of this.p.58
09:10:44.2CACAM-1yeah we had an incident. uh we landed we went in to the overrun. into that matting. the aircraft— yeah.p.58
09:10:52.3BURBURyeah they can— they can just continue to using this frequency until advised. can you understand them?p.58
09:10:55.3CACAM-1yeah we're still stuck in it. we got— yeah we're surrounded with aircraft. I don't know we're probably like forty feet from the end of it maybe.p.58
09:10:57.5FORDO-2barely.p.58
09:11:01.9BURBURVan twenty one you're loud and clear now. you can remain on this frequency.p.59
09:11:10.9CACAM-1the peeps are still on. it's— it's pouring down rain. I'm not quite sure how we get them from here to the uh uh— okay. yes sir. uh @.p.59
09:11:57.5◦CAM[sound of two double clicks]p.59
09:12:01.8INTINT-4hey it's @.p.59
09:12:03.4FOINT-2hey guys it's @. hey you don't have anybody hurt back there or anything do you?p.59
09:12:06.4OBINT-3we walked through and asked if everybody's okay and everybody's fine.p.59
09:12:06.9INTINT-4no.p.59
09:12:08.1FOINT-2alright.p.59
09:12:09.6INTINT-4yeah everybody's fine. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.59
09:12:10.7FOINT-2yeah we're good. we're on power obviously. it just— the # thing just didn't stop.p.60
09:12:13.8OBINT-3yeah.p.60
09:12:14.2FOINT-2um they're working on getting a way to get these folks off now. that's what they're talking about. we'll let you know as soon as we find out.p.60
09:12:18.6OBINT-3okay. alright. we'll keep them seated like you said. one at a time if they have to go but everybody's fine.p.60
09:12:24.7FOINT-2okay okay.p.60
09:12:26.5OBINT-3and uh hell of a job guys.p.60
09:12:27.9INTINT-4yeah.p.60
09:12:28.4FOINT-2yeah # I wish.p.60
09:12:29.4OBINT-3I know I know.p.60
09:12:30.8INTINT-4it happens.p.60
09:12:31.3OBINT-3but yeah. thank you. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.60
09:12:33.0FOINT-2sure no problem.p.61
09:12:33.7INTINT-4bye bye thanks.p.61
09:12:34.6FOINT-2see ya.p.61
09:12:49.1FORDO-2ops two seventy eight?p.61
09:12:50.6CACAM-1okay. hello @? yeah this is @. yeah two seventy eight in Burbank. sorry man but we went in to the overrun.p.61
09:12:52.3ATCOPSgo for ops.p.61
09:13:53.4FORDO-2yeah you guys have any idea how we're gonna do as far as getting the people off of here? anybody talk to ya'll yet?p.61
09:13:01.5ATCOPSnot yet. stand by.p.61
09:13:03.8BURBURCar forty three Burbank Tower.p.61
09:13:04.4FOHOT-2I think they're working on it right now.p.61
09:13:08.7CACAM-1yeah yup nope nobody. we— I don't know how fast we were going maybe like uh you know fifteen knots or something but uh there— there was no brake— the braking was pretty much nil. we had autobrakes max and uh I don't know.p.62
09:13:10.1BURBURCar forty three uh no. proceed on runway eight hold short of runway one five.p.62
09:13:19.8BURBURand Car forty three just so we're clear we can cross runway eight at the tie ins and at the terminal.p.62
09:13:33.4BURBURCar forty three cross runway one five. full length. advise when off.p.62
09:13:34.6CACAM-1yeah yeah. everybody's fine.p.62
09:13:53.7CACAM-1okay. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.62
09:14:23.5CACAM-1okay.p.63
09:14:46.5CACAM-1okay.p.63
09:14:51.8BURBURVan forty one Burbank Tower you on frequency?p.63
09:14:57.5BURBURVan forty one that Southwest jet at gate alpha seven needs to push back. is there enough room?p.63
09:15:10.2CACAM-1sure sure.p.63
09:15:20.0CACAM-1okay. yeah I'm all set.p.63
09:15:27.2BURBURCar forty three. yes I do. proceed westbound. hold short of runway one five. traffic departing. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.63
09:15:37.5CACAM-1yeah yeah. well we were coming in to uh Burbank for the uh I-L-S eight and uh it's heavy rain. we had the radar on. it was showing uh um you know green and uh a— a little bit of red. uh we had it all configured by the final approach fix and uh came down. um the tower said the aircraft in front of us went around for uh um a wind shift or something like that and we continued on. we had uh about a— a nine knot uh tailwind component at about a thousand feet and then uh but you know pretty heavy rain and caught the uh runway um just a little bit before minimums. landed. deployed the autobrake. uh the um antiskid was in max went to max braking and the aircraft uh just did not seem to decelerate and we went into the overrun um probably maybe like at about fifteen knots— ten to fifteen knots.p.64
09:16:09.4BURBURCar forty three cross runway one five.p.64
09:16:53.8CACAM-1uh no it's— it's the main— we're— we're— by looking at it we're right in the middle of it. we got about as much behind us as we have in front of us.p.64
09:17:03.8BURBURCar forty three Tower? DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.64
09:17:07.1BURBURyeah just want to verify uh we can do the crossing and uh just to make sure the intersection runway one five is open.p.65
09:17:20.4BURBURCrash two Burbank Tower.p.65
09:17:27.2FOCAM-2uh let's see.p.65
09:17:28.2BURBURSouthwest two seventy eight?p.65
09:17:29.9FOCAM-2we got one twelve uh.p.65
09:17:32.4CACAM-1well uh— I don't know um yeah we— we didn't uh the engines shut down let me ask *. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.65
09:17:39.7FOCAM-2yeah they shut down on their own. 0917:40.7 yeah the engines shut down on their own. um like I— Ip.66
09:17:39.7CACAM-1was gonna ask the F-O you know should we shut the engines down and then they were down with the uh start levers were in idle.p.66
09:18:06.4BURBURCar forty three Tower?p.66
09:18:10.2CACAM-1everybody is safe and there's uh you know like a half dozen fire trucks around us and then about another half dozen support vehicles. and we're just— um it's raining really hard and we just haven't come up with an egress plan yet for the uh for the folks.p.66
09:18:16.7BURBURand one five departures.p.66
09:18:46.6CACAM-1okay.p.66
09:18:50.3CACAM-1yes sir. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.66
09:19:11.5CACAM-1okay.p.67
09:19:21.0CACAM-1yes...all set.p.67
09:19:43.2CACAM-1[phone number]p.67
09:20:16.0CACAM-1okay. 0920.31.7p.67
09:20:16.0CACAM-1will do.p.67
09:20:44.2CACAM-1I appreciate that.p.67
09:20:52.8CACAM-1yeah it— it's— well it saved the day. I could say that.p.67
09:21:07.5CACAM-1yes sir. thank you.p.67
09:21:26.6CACAM-1okay I got to talk to uh—p.67
09:21:32.1FOCAM-2alright.p.67
09:21:35.2INTINT-4this is @ up front.p.67
09:21:36.6CAINT-1hey guys it's @. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.67
09:21:37.4INTINT-4hey.p.68
09:21:37.7CAINT-1hey I just talked— talked to the chief pilot. and they want us to stay together as a crew so like once we get in to the uh um thing we— we need to kind of stay together. make no statements to the people to the uh ops people or if there's any reporters out there. make sure everybody keeps their certificates um don't talk to the media. no speculation and uh we're— we're trying to coordinate with ops to see how we're gonna get out of here— get the people off. it's still pouring down rain uh. so we'll just go from there. I— I'm sorry about this.p.68
09:22:09.5INTINT-4that's alright.p.68
09:22:10.2OBINT-3no hey it's not your fault. thank you so much.p.68
09:22:11.6INTINT-4good thing is we're all safe.p.68
09:22:13.2INTINT-4okay.p.68
09:22:14.3OBINT-3you know you guys are awesome. we appreciate you. okay will do.p.68
09:22:18.9CAINT-1thank you.p.68
09:22:19.4OBINT-3thank you. DCA19IA036 Time and Intra-Aircraft Communication Time and Over-the-Air Communication Source Sourcep.68
09:22:19.9INTINT-4thanks.p.69
09:22:20.3FOCAM-2it's behind you.p.69
09:22:21.5CACAM-1so.p.69
09:22:22.0FOCAM-2if you slide up I'll get it.p.69
09:22:25.2◦CAM[sound similar to seat track movement]p.69
09:22:27.8FOCAM-2alright.p.69