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Embraer EMB145Commutair

430 lines · 09:29:05.0 – 11:29:52.9 · Presque Isle, ME, 2019-03-04

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CaptainFirst officerControllersWarningsSounds
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  • 11:29:17.6PA-1remain seated, remain seated, remain seated.
  • 11:29:20.5PA-1remain seated, remain seated.
  • 11:29:20.6CAM-3-remain seated, remain seated-
  • 11:29:23.6CAM-1run the checklist [repeated seven times].
  • 11:29:33.8CAM-2*.
  • 11:29:39.1CAM-1remain seated, remain seated.
  • 11:29:45.5CAM-2what checklist do you want me to run @ .
  • 11:29:49.4CAM-1(let's run the) shutdown check. shutdown. DCA19FA089
  • 11:29:52.9CAM[sounds consistent with checklist usage and aircraft evacuation].
  • 11:29:52.9CAM[sound of interphone chime].

Crew communication

430 lines readobservations a human-factors reviewer takes from a transcript — the sterile cockpit, the Board's own notations, rhythm, CRM markers. Not emotions, not scores: the affect is in the audio, and the audio is sealed
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floor share · CA / FO %
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non-pertinent talk in sterile window
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laughter · delivery · expletives
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crew questions unanswered in 8 s
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warnings with a crew response in 5 s
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Utterances per minute, one row per speaker on one clock. shaded = sterile-cockpit window · red = end of recording.
Sterile cockpit · 14 CFR 121.542

Windows: 10:00:00–10:08:48, 11:00:49–11:30:35 · basis: recorder pressure altitude below 10,000 ft. Candidate non-pertinent lines below are a first reading for the investigator, not a finding; “@” marks the Board's own non-pertinent-word notation.

  • 11:03:20.2“about halfway when we go back to pink needles I know it's gonna # it up comin' in. we'll see what it does here.”
  • 11:04:08.5“ah looks like * looks like the loco's starting to come alive.”
  • 11:04:26.5“* * * girl. [sound similar to chuckle].”
  • 11:06:06.6“alright ah all of our P-P-R requirements are complete.”
  • 11:06:24.0“we're just callin' it in the blind like we usually do now. we're the only show in town today.”
  • 11:10:06.5“no no no, yeah yeah, no no, go go go-up.”
  • 11:10:15.8“sorry about that. looked at the wrong thing.”
  • 11:11:16.8“we'll talk about that later, okay? ahm okay so go over-”
  • 11:13:16.3“alright we're not, yeah we're holding on P-Q-I for now.”
  • 11:14:01.1“that was that was, I think what happened.”
  • 11:14:08.2“yeah okay * yeah I thought that too, so.”
  • 11:15:53.7“okay I tell you what I'm gonna extend the line for ya.”
  • 11:16:25.3“okay sir ah we're gonna give this another try for ah, for a Presque Isle so we are looking at about ah, right now we're gonna go ahead and ah circle it around.”
  • 11:16:41.8“thank you sir appreciate it, we'll give you a call back here ah once we get closer. thank you.”
  • 11:17:00.0“it's really white down there that's the problem.”
  • 11:17:44.5“if we don't see it we'll just go to, Vermont.”
  • 11:17:53.3“* * okay, let me make an announcement.”
  • 11:18:23.4“yeah, I know I don't know what’s wrong with mine, but we, we went missed, as you can tell-”
  • 11:18:28.1“eh as I had mentioned earlier so we're gonna give this another try.”
  • 11:18:41.7“if there's nothing there then we'll go, if there is something there we'll land.”
  • 11:18:51.7“and you said you did see 'em last time?”
  • 11:18:53.8“I ah ah saw the thing but ah I said everything is white down there, so.”
  • 11:19:56.8“are you okay to try this again or?”
  • 11:19:58.0“oh I'm okay I just I just realized my error last time 'cause I, I was overconfident and said oh we got it now.”
  • 11:20:10.0“* * * if you guys are doing other * go for it * * is showing good.”
  • 11:20:22.8“yeah stay inside and I'll let you know when you can look up.”
  • 11:25:59.6“alright takin' my cues from you @.”@
  • 11:26:41.2“(keep it right) here. keep it in here, okay?”
  • 11:28:42.1“* *. stay in, stay in. just stay in it. stay in, stay in.”
  • 11:28:47.1“stay in, okay? stay in. ah # is it?”
The Board’s own notations

Delivery and physiological notes the transcribers added in brackets, plus # expletives. 98 words are marked unintelligible (*).

  • #11:03:20.2“about halfway when we go back to pink needles I know it's gonna # it up comin' in. we'll see what it does here.”
  • sound of electronic voice11:09:37.3“autopilot, autopilot [sound of electronic voice].”
  • sound of electronic voice11:09:45.5“approaching minimums [sound of electronic voice]. DCA19FA089”
  • sound of electronic voice11:09:51.4“minimums, minimums [sound of electronic voice].”
  • sound of electronic voice11:09:58.7“one hundred [sound of electronic voice].”
  • sound of electronic voice11:10:17.0“don't sink [sound of electronic voice].”
  • sound of electronic voice11:10:18.8“don't sink [sound of electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:10:27.6“landing gear [electronic voice]. DCA19FA089”
  • sound of interphone call chime11:18:17.8“[sound of interphone call chime].”
  • electronic voice11:20:07.8“incoming call, incoming call [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:22:17.4“incoming call, incoming call [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:28:28.4“autopilot, autopilot [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:28:29.6“approaching minimums [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:28:37.3“minimums, minimums [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:28:45.9“one hundred [electronic voice]. DCA19FA089”
  • #11:28:47.1“stay in, okay? stay in. ah # is it?”
  • #11:28:52.7“what the, #.”
  • electronic voice11:28:55.3“landing gear [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:28:58.8“takeoff [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:29:00.4“flaps [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:29:02.0“brakes [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice11:29:05.1“landing gear [electronic voice]. DCA19FA089”
  • #11:29:14.0“what the #.”
Silences of 45 s or more
Concerns voiced, and what followed

Hedged or questioning lines from one pilot in the critical window, with the other pilot’s next words.

  • 11:06:29.0“I don't know if (you) need to specify your runways clear. you know, so.”
    → 11:06:31.6“yeah.”
  • 11:06:34.2“okay glideslope looks like it's alive.”
    → 11:06:35.8“* alive.”
  • 11:07:25.9“I don't know where you like your bug I always put it on the approach.”
    → 11:07:28.1“that's fine yeah I like it there.”
  • 11:08:09.6“alright looks like EXCAL comin' up that's final approach fix inbound.”
    → 11:08:11.2“so you got yeah.”
  • 11:09:56.7“well I got somethin' looks like a runway up there.”
    → 11:09:58.1“yeah.”
  • 11:11:52.5“what the heck happened?”
    → 11:11:54.2“we'll talk about it.”
  • 11:13:52.0“I don't think so, I ah I think my problem was is I went outside the airplane, too early, and I didn't have the runway.”
    → 11:13:57.4“'kay, 'kay.”
  • 11:14:05.9“I thought I had the runway then I was like that is not the runway.”
    → 11:14:08.2“yeah okay * yeah I thought that too, so.”
  • 11:19:11.7“I just thought we could pick it up man we just, I did not see it. I thought I saw it, that was the problem. DCA19FA089”
    → 11:19:13.8“yeah no worries, yeah no worries. just stay on the flight director and the glideslope and ah a lot of times what I do is I'll-”
  • 11:25:21.2“this whole CORAC business right here is I think that's got to be recycled or somethin'.”
    → 11:25:25.3“I'll do direct to ah EXCAL now okay?”
  • 11:28:42.0“'kay I'm stayin' on the flight director 'cause I don't see it yet.”
    → 11:28:42.1“* *. stay in, stay in. just stay in it. stay in, stay in.”
  • 11:28:52.7“what the, #.”
    → 11:28:53.5“I don't know what I'm seein'.”
  • 11:29:14.0“what the #.”
    → 11:29:33.8“*.”
Warnings and the response
  • 11:03:43.9[sound similar to altitude alert warning tone].
    → 1.7 s later: 11:03:45.6“forty one, thirty one. DCA19FA089”
  • 11:10:06.4[sounds similar to stick shaker].
    → 0.1 s later: 11:10:06.5“no no no, yeah yeah, no no, go go go-up.”
  • 11:10:18.4[sound of master caution aural alert].
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 11:10:26.2[sound of master warning aural alert].
    → 4.5 s later: 11:10:30.7“it's alright got it.”
  • 11:10:29.6[sound of master warning aural alert].
    → 1.1 s later: 11:10:30.7“it's alright got it.”
  • 11:11:07.5[sound of altitude alerter].
    → 0.9 s later: 11:11:08.4“(two for) three thousand.”
  • 11:28:57.4[sound of master warning].
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 11:29:03.7[sound of master warning].
    → 1.6 s later: 11:29:05.3“I got it, I got it, the localizer was * *.”
  • 11:29:08.2[repeated aural configuration warnings].
    → 0.9 s later: 11:29:09.1“the localizer was what?”
Questions between the pilots left unanswered
Standard callouts
Positive rateGear up500 ftGear downRunway in sightV1 · not in transcriptRotate / Vr · not in transcriptV2 · not in transcript1,000 ft · not in transcriptMinimums · not in transcriptGo around · not in transcriptStabilized · not in transcript

“Not in transcript” never means “not said”: a line may be unintelligible, or the recording may not cover that phase.

Language, as counts
Speakerwordsquestionshedgesexclamationsexpletiveschecklistsnon-pertinent lines
Captain1,91424733421
First officer921101311111
Observer / jumpseat4000000

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09:29:05.0STASTARTOF RECORDINGp.7
10:55:24.8STASTARTOF TRANSCRIPTp.7
10:55:24.8ATCCTRand CommutAir forty nine thirty three required to read thisp.7
10:55:24.8FICFICONNOTAM to you for runway one you have ah field condition of three, three, three, one hundred percent, quarter inch dry snow, and ah yup that should be it, there is also a quarter inch dry snow on ah all of the taxiways as well braking action * reported as medium, and ah half inch of dry snow on the apron.p.7
10:55:45.7CAHOT-1(got it), yup.p.7
10:55:50.3CARDO-1thank you CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.7
10:55:52.6CAHOT-1yeah * * *.p.7
10:56:09.1CAHOT-1(that's) six, minimum required five, actual forty four, alright there ya go.p.7
10:56:18.0CAHOT-1and winds are one zero zero at seven.p.7
10:56:21.8FOHOT-2yeah, little crosswind. DCA19FA089p.7
10:56:23.4ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three continue your descent down ah at your discretion to four thousand one hundred.p.8
10:56:28.8CARDO-1four thousand one hundred pilot's discretion CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.8
10:56:34.5FOHOT-2four thousand one hundred set.p.8
10:56:34.7CAHOT-1four thousand one hundred.p.8
10:56:38.3CAHOT-1alright two nine seven one.p.8
10:56:52.0CAHOT-1okay you got that *?p.8
10:56:52.3ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three I'm sorry say again please?p.8
10:56:55.3CARDO-1a yes sir we do copy you're ah the latest ah information you gave us on the ah on the runway.p.8
10:57:01.0ATCCTRstandby a couple aircraft at once.p.8
10:57:05.6FOHOT-2yup.p.8
10:57:07.8CAHOT-1ah may he's a maybe he didn't get my four thous-p.8
10:57:10.3ATCCTRand ah forty nine thirty three say again please? DCA19FA089p.8
10:57:13.0CARDO-1yes sir you just did say pilot's discretion four thousand one hundred CommutAir forty nine thirty three and we did copy the ah information you gave us on the runway.p.9
10:57:20.9ATCCTRroger thank you and ah previous aircraft in about an hour ago ah broke out of clouds right around eleven-twelve hundred had the runway in sight by seven hundred.p.9
10:57:29.9CARDO-1thank you we'll give ya ah information on that, thank you.p.9
10:57:32.9FOHOT-2what he say broke out twelve hundred?p.9
10:57:34.1CAHOT-1eleven yeah eleven *.p.9
10:57:34.9FOHOT-2yeah.p.9
10:57:49.4CAHOT-1ice, ice four.p.9
10:57:51.1FOHOT-2yeah all of 'em? DCA19FA089p.9
10:58:57.1FOHOT-2okay this ap- this approach is uhm runway one approach eleven dash one to Presque Isle dated two November eighteen one oh eight point seven is the frequency final approach course is zero zero six ah the glideslope is EXCAL at nineteen twenty one, six hundred seventy eight foot ILS I mean six hundred seventy eight eight feet is the decision altitude at two hundred foot ILS, it's conditional we've got the conditions 'cause we have the altimeter, ah three thousand one hundred all sections around the PQI L- O-M ah there are no lights just the MALSRs down there, expecting what about a half mile and eleven hundred feet down there it shouldn't be that bad if we do have a missed approach it'll be a TOGA check max thrust flaps nine positive rate gear up, ahm we'll do it with the box ah let's climb to a hundred ah eleven hundred left turn to three thousand direct to PQI VOR and hold *. probably come back in for the second one if we have the gas if we not we'll have to figure out what we're going is probably is Burlington.p.10
10:59:58.1CAHOT-1* (seven point).p.10
10:59:58.9FOHOT-2any questions about that?p.10
11:00:00.3CAHOT-1no questions.p.10
11:00:01.2FOHOT-2okay and if after a taxi after we get on the ground down there, taxi off.p.10
11:00:07.6CAHOT-1if you need to take it all the way to the end you can * *. DCA19FA089p.10
11:00:10.7FOHOT-2yeah we'll try to make charlie but I think we'll prob- it it'll be slick so we'll slow it down a little bit more.p.11
11:00:12.6CAHOT-1yeah, * *. yeah.p.11
11:00:24.5FOHOT-2through ten.p.11
11:00:25.4◦HOT[sound of three chimes].p.11
11:00:29.7CAHOT-1forgot to give her, the seat belts are on. alright good.p.11
11:00:44.9CAHOT-1did I (give you any of) those checklists? let's try that.p.11
11:00:48.1FOHOT-2ah let's do the descent check and do the approach check.p.11
11:00:50.8CAHOT-1descent check arrival briefing.p.11
11:00:52.4FOHOT-2ah complete.p.11
11:00:52.9CAHOT-1windshield heat is on. fasten belts are on. exterior lights are on. pressurization is checked. landing speeds reviewed and set.p.11
11:00:59.7FOHOT-2reviewed and set.p.11
11:01:01.1CAHOT-1two niner (seven one) left and center. DCA19FA089p.11
11:01:03.3FOHOT-2ah right and cross checked.p.12
11:01:04.6CAHOT-1descent checklist is complete. approach brief, approach briefing?p.12
11:01:07.6FOHOT-2complete.p.12
11:01:08.3CAHOT-1* on * GPS ah once * identify those. ah for now they're set flight attendants notified approach check is complete.p.12
11:01:15.3FOHOT-2thank you.p.12
11:01:16.1◦HOT[sound consistent with MORSE code identifier for PQI localizer].p.12
11:01:29.9CAHOT-1it's been identified.p.12
11:01:31.0FOHOT-2sweet.p.12
11:01:42.0ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three cross CORAC at or above three thousand two hundred cleared ILS runway one approach at Presque Isle.p.12
11:01:49.4CARDO-1cross CORAC at ah three thousand two hundred and ah cleared for the ILS runway one into Presque Isle ah CommutAir forty nine thirty three. DCA19FA089p.12
11:01:58.7FOHOT-2alright heading bugs straight ahead.p.13
11:02:01.7CAHOT-1yeah.p.13
11:02:01.7FOHOT-2go to NAV. approach button on here.p.13
11:02:06.6FOHOT-2got the boards out. flight idle.p.13
11:02:09.5CAHOT-1got it.p.13
11:02:09.6FOHOT-2comin' down.p.13
11:02:34.0CAHOT-1chilly.p.13
11:02:35.0FOHOT-2yeah a little bit.p.13
11:03:20.2FOHOT-2about halfway when we go back to pink needles I know it's gonna # it up comin' in. we'll see what it does here.p.13
11:03:41.3CAHOT-1go green now * * zero zero six.p.13
11:03:43.9◦HOT[sound similar to altitude alert warning tone].p.13
11:03:45.6CAHOT-1forty one, thirty one. DCA19FA089p.13
11:03:49.0CAHOT-1you want some flaps?p.14
11:03:50.8FOHOT-2yeah gimme flaps nine.p.14
11:03:51.0CAHOT-1* *.p.14
11:03:52.1CAHOT-1'kay. flaps nine. should help you there.p.14
11:04:08.5FOHOT-2ah looks like * looks like the loco's starting to come alive.p.14
11:04:12.3CAHOT-1yeah.p.14
11:04:17.1FOHOT-2LOCs captured.p.14
11:04:26.5CAHOT-1* * * girl. [sound similar to chuckle].p.14
11:04:29.2FOHOT-2yeah right?p.14
11:04:39.0CAHOT-1* * *.p.14
11:04:47.5CAHOT-1* come around there?p.14
11:05:12.1CAHOT-1good so far. DCA19FA089p.14
11:05:35.2ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three radar services terminated change to advisory frequency approved, cancel on the ground one two one point six or with me in the air ah twenty four seventy five.p.15
11:05:44.6CARDO-1alright we'll cancel with you and we'll switch over CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.15
11:05:49.4CARDO-1Presque Isle traffic Commut- forty nine thirty three is two miles from FEROG is inbound for the ILS runway one Presque Isle traffic.p.15
11:05:57.6CAHOT-1four minutes out.p.15
11:05:58.8MAIMAINTforty nine thirty three Presque Isle maintenance we'll off * zero one.p.15
11:06:03.1CARDO-1alright we're * showing four minutes out sir.p.15
11:06:06.6FOHOT-2alright ah all of our P-P-R requirements are complete.p.15
11:06:11.0CAHOT-1he said he he'll be out in zero one one minute?p.15
11:06:13.6FOHOT-2ah he said he was ah he was out of the way now. so he's clear.p.15
11:06:20.0CAHOT-1so we need to veri-* on the radio that we're cleared to land? DCA19FA089p.15
11:06:22.9FOHOT-2nope.p.16
11:06:23.0CAHOT-1nothing?p.16
11:06:23.4FOHOT-2nope.p.16
11:06:24.0FOHOT-2we're just callin' it in the blind like we usually do now. we're the only show in town today.p.16
11:06:25.9CAHOT-1okay.p.16
11:06:27.9CAHOT-1'kay.p.16
11:06:28.6FOHOT-2I'm assuming.p.16
11:06:29.0CAHOT-1I don't know if (you) need to specify your runways clear. you know, so.p.16
11:06:31.6FOHOT-2yeah.p.16
11:06:34.2FOHOT-2okay glideslope looks like it's alive.p.16
11:06:35.8CAHOT-1* alive.p.16
11:06:41.9CAHOT-1doing great. DCA19FA089p.16
11:06:44.8FOHOT-2alright gear down flaps twenty two.p.17
11:06:47.2◦CAM[sound of increased wideband background noise].p.17
11:06:47.3CAHOT-1gear down, speed checks, flaps twenty two.p.17
11:06:53.9CAHOT-1alright your mins will be six seventy eight.p.17
11:07:02.0CAHOT-1* * you're cleared to land.p.17
11:07:05.3FOHOT-2you got it.p.17
11:07:25.9CAHOT-1I don't know where you like your bug I always put it on the approach.p.17
11:07:28.1FOHOT-2that's fine yeah I like it there.p.17
11:07:31.7CAHOT-1and you're ah three thousand for the missed.p.17
11:07:34.3FOHOT-2thank you.p.17
11:07:34.9CAHOT-1put that in there for ya.p.17
11:07:35.9FOHOT-2flaps forty five landing check.p.17
11:07:37.4CAHOT-1speed checks flaps forty five. DCA19FA089p.17
11:07:41.7CAHOT-1landing check flight attendant is notified landing gear down three green.p.18
11:07:45.5FOHOT-2that's verified.p.18
11:07:46.4CAHOT-1flaps forty five landing check is complete.p.18
11:07:50.4CARDO-1Presque Isle traffic CommutAir forty nine thirty three is from ah EXCAL and ah we are landing runway one.p.18
11:08:09.6FOHOT-2alright looks like EXCAL comin' up that's final approach fix inbound.p.18
11:08:11.2CAHOT-1so you got yeah.p.18
11:08:14.8CAHOT-1EXCAL, and that is at nineteen twenty one so you're good.p.18
11:08:21.8CAHOT-1*.p.18
11:08:37.7CAHOT-1thousand to go. stable.p.18
11:08:44.4CAHOT-1ground contact.p.18
11:09:03.4CAHOT-1want me to turn the lights on or anything?p.18
11:09:05.2CARDO-1[sound similar to five microphone clicks]. DCA19FA089p.18
11:09:06.2FOHOT-2yeah. turn 'em on. they're at one twenty they at one twenty two point six.p.19
11:09:09.6CAHOT-1twenty two point six?p.19
11:09:10.5FOHOT-2yeah.p.19
11:09:17.5CARDO-1[sound similar to five microphone clicks].p.19
11:09:19.6CAHOT-1five hundred.p.19
11:09:28.4CAHOT-1four hundred.p.19
11:09:30.9CAHOT-1* *.p.19
11:09:33.3CAHOT-1three hundred.p.19
11:09:36.9FOHOT-2autopilot's comin' off.p.19
11:09:37.3◦HOTautopilot, autopilot [sound of electronic voice].p.19
11:09:38.0CAHOT-1alright.p.19
11:09:40.4CAHOT-1and one hundred to go - two hundred to go *.p.19
11:09:45.5◦HOTapproaching minimums [sound of electronic voice]. DCA19FA089p.19
11:09:51.4◦HOTminimums, minimums [sound of electronic voice].p.20
11:09:53.3CAHOT-1runway in sight. see it?p.20
11:09:55.3FOHOT-2yeah.p.20
11:09:56.7FOHOT-2well I got somethin' looks like a runway up there.p.20
11:09:58.1CAHOT-1yeah.p.20
11:09:58.7◦HOTone hundred [sound of electronic voice].p.20
11:10:01.0CAHOT-1yeah.p.20
11:10:02.3CAHOT-1watch your speed yeah watch watch your, go go up, go-up go-up, go-up go-up.p.20
11:10:06.4◦HOT[sounds similar to stick shaker].p.20
11:10:06.5CAHOT-1no no no, yeah yeah, no no, go go go-up.p.20
11:10:08.3CAHOT-1go.p.20
11:10:08.7CAHOT-1go missed. go missed.p.20
11:10:09.5FOHOT-2yeah we're goin' missed. DCA19FA089p.20
11:10:10.2CAHOT-1TOGA, check thrust flaps nine.p.21
11:10:12.0CAHOT-1go go go.p.21
11:10:14.8CAHOT-1(not waving off).p.21
11:10:15.8FOHOT-2sorry about that. looked at the wrong thing.p.21
11:10:16.4CAHOT-1that's alright.p.21
11:10:17.0◦HOTdon't sink [sound of electronic voice].p.21
11:10:18.2CAHOT-1go up. go up, go up.p.21
11:10:18.4◦HOT[sound of master caution aural alert].p.21
11:10:18.8◦HOTdon't sink [sound of electronic voice].p.21
11:10:23.5CAHOT-1positive rate.p.21
11:10:24.6FOHOT-2gear up.p.21
11:10:26.2◦HOT[sound of master warning aural alert].p.21
11:10:27.6◦HOTlanding gear [electronic voice]. DCA19FA089p.21
11:10:29.6◦HOT[sound of master warning aural alert].p.22
11:10:30.7CAHOT-1it's alright got it.p.22
11:10:32.9CARDO-1Presque Isle traffic CommutAir forty nine thirty three is ah going missed runway one.p.22
11:10:38.1CAHOT-1* * * * fifteen.p.22
11:10:40.2FOHOT-2okay flaps up climb thrust climb angle * * flaps up too slow.p.22
11:10:44.2CAHOT-1*.p.22
11:10:48.7CAHOT-1flaps zero.p.22
11:10:56.1CARDO-1Presque Isle traffic CommutAir forty nine thirty three is going missed.p.22
11:11:00.2CAHOT-1* *.p.22
11:11:01.1CARDO-1departure CommutAir forty nine thirty three?p.22
11:11:03.9ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three center.p.22
11:11:05.4CARDO-1yeah we went missed on runway one we're gonna give it another try. DCA19FA089p.22
11:11:07.5◦HOT[sound of altitude alerter].p.23
11:11:08.4CAHOT-1(two for) three thousand.p.23
11:11:08.6ATCCTRroger.p.23
11:11:10.2CAHOT-1(acceleration altitude V) two plus fifteen.p.23
11:11:13.5FOHOT-2flaps up climb thrust climb check.p.23
11:11:16.8CAHOT-1we'll talk about that later, okay? ahm okay so go over-p.23
11:11:20.2CARDO-1you wanna give us a heading for forty nine thirty three?p.23
11:11:22.6ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three are you executing the published missed approach?p.23
11:11:25.7CARDO-1yes sir.p.23
11:11:27.6CAHOT-1let's go F-M-S and NAV.p.23
11:11:31.8CAHOT-1alright watch your speed.p.23
11:11:36.4CAHOT-1let's go ahead and start * *.p.23
11:11:36.7ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three IDENT. DCA19FA089p.23
11:11:41.3CAHOT-1you got autopilot on? I'm gonna throw that on for ya.p.24
11:11:43.4FOHOT-2(pilot on it).p.24
11:11:47.1CAHOT-1you’re pink. alright. NAV.p.24
11:11:52.5FOHOT-2what the heck happened?p.24
11:11:54.2CAHOT-1we'll talk about it.p.24
11:12:01.3CAHOT-1climb checklist landing gear is up and flaps zero.p.24
11:12:06.8CAHOT-1(verified).p.24
11:12:14.5CAHOT-1* climb.p.24
11:12:17.9CAHOT-1(climb) * (complete).p.24
11:12:20.9CAHOT-1alright let’s do this again.p.24
11:12:22.5ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three IDENT?p.24
11:12:25.2CAHOT-1did you IDENT on that?p.24
11:12:28.4CAHOT-1ah sorry. DCA19FA089p.24
11:12:31.6CARDO-1do you see us there CommutAir forty nine thirty three?p.25
11:12:35.0ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three IDENT.p.25
11:12:37.6CAHOT-1did you do IDENT? I did.p.25
11:12:41.9ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three radar contact ahm, eight miles north of the Presque Isle ah VOR at three thousand. you able main your own train of * avoidance * three thousand one hundred.p.25
11:12:53.0CARDO-1ah yeah we can go ahead and do three thousand one hundred now, for CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.25
11:12:56.6ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three roger climb and maintain ah three thousand two hundred.p.25
11:13:00.9CARDO-1alright three thousand two hundred CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.25
11:13:16.3CAHOT-1alright we're not, yeah we're holding on P-Q-I for now.p.25
11:13:28.2CARDO-1Presque Isle maintenance CommutAir forty nine thirty three we went missed on that approach ah we'll call you back again ah for another try.p.25
11:13:40.1CAHOT-1* *. DCA19FA089p.25
11:13:49.8CAHOT-1did you lose the localizer?p.26
11:13:52.0FOHOT-2I don't think so, I ah I think my problem was is I went outside the airplane, too early, and I didn't have the runway.p.26
11:13:55.1ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three * * gonna ah * the * ILS runway one approach?p.26
11:13:57.4CAHOT-1'kay, 'kay.p.26
11:14:01.1FOHOT-2that was that was, I think what happened.p.26
11:14:03.0CAHOT-1okay, no worries, yeah.p.26
11:14:05.2CAHOT-1I was lookin' outside-p.26
11:14:05.9FOHOT-2I thought I had the runway then I was like that is not the runway.p.26
11:14:08.2CAHOT-1yeah okay * yeah I thought that too, so.p.26
11:14:13.0FOHOT-2so next time, we're gonna do this again, I'm (gonna) stay inside on the localizer.p.26
11:14:15.1CAHOT-1yeah. DCA19FA089p.26
11:14:15.9ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three, center?p.27
11:14:17.9CARDO-1yes sir go ahead.p.27
11:14:18.9CAHOT-1oh.p.27
11:14:19.7CARDO-1yes sir, go ahead.p.27
11:14:21.1ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three are you going to reattempt the ILS runway one approach?p.27
11:14:24.5CARDO-1yes sir we are.p.27
11:14:30.0FOHOT-2so I'm stayin' on the on the on the flight director till two hundred this time.p.27
11:14:31.4ATCCTR* would you like ah vectors for the approach or would just like to proceed back to CORAC and then ah once you're established ah given a, a clearance for the approach there.p.27
11:14:36.0FOHOT-2vectors.p.27
11:14:40.7CARDO-1well, let's go ahead and get some ah, some ah, ah vectors over to CORAC for now we'll go ahead, go ahead and get set up for now.p.27
11:14:50.8ATCCTRroger standby. DCA19FA089p.27
11:15:06.7CAHOT-1okay as soon as he tells us we'll, we'll get- set up there.p.28
11:15:20.2ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three fly heading ah two zero five be vectors for ILS runway one approach.p.28
11:15:25.0CARDO-1two zero five heading CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.28
11:15:28.1CAHOT-1alright lets do this again arrival runway zero one, zero one, activate. okay let me put in CORAC here.p.28
11:15:53.7CAHOT-1okay I tell you what I'm gonna extend the line for ya.p.28
11:15:56.3FOHOT-2'kay.p.28
11:16:11.6CAHOT-1six point two or * * sixty five. we're good.p.28
11:16:19.6CARDO-1Presque Isle maintenance CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.28
11:16:23.3MAIMAINTforty nine thirty three Presque Isle maintenance.p.28
11:16:25.3CARDO-1okay sir ah we're gonna give this another try for ah, for a Presque Isle so we are looking at about ah, right now we're gonna go ahead and ah circle it around.p.28
11:16:35.0MAIMAINTyeah okay we'll be all clear runway one. DCA19FA089p.28
11:16:37.7CARDO-1okay can you make sure those light are on for us?p.29
11:16:40.6MAIMAINTyes we will.p.29
11:16:41.8CARDO-1thank you sir appreciate it, we'll give you a call back here ah once we get closer. thank you.p.29
11:16:45.6FOHOT-2ah did you ever see the lights at all last time?p.29
11:16:47.6CAHOT-1I saw them yeah but.p.29
11:16:48.7FOHOT-2did ya?p.29
11:16:50.7CAHOT-1yeah.p.29
11:17:00.0CAHOT-1it's really white down there that's the problem.p.29
11:17:01.9FOHOT-2yeah. everything is washed out.p.29
11:17:06.0CAHOT-1yeah.p.29
11:17:39.4CAHOT-1alright.p.29
11:17:44.5CAHOT-1if we don't see it we'll just go to, Vermont.p.29
11:17:46.7FOHOT-2you got it. DCA19FA089p.29
11:17:47.1CAHOT-1you know? so.p.30
11:17:50.5CAHOT-1you want some flaps nine or anything?p.30
11:17:52.1FOHOT-2yeah do flaps nine.p.30
11:17:53.3CAHOT-1* * okay, let me make an announcement.p.30
11:17:55.5CAPA-1ladies and gentlemen from the flight deck, ah, there's a little bit of snowing down there so ah we did have to go missed, ah however we're going to give this another try, again ah there's just a little bit of snow down there, and ah, as you can see ah towards the ground there's a little bit of white down there so, just * * ah for now remain seated and we're gonna give this another try for landing, thank you.p.30
11:18:15.6CAHOT-1alright.p.30
11:18:17.8◦HOT[sound of interphone call chime].p.30
11:18:19.2CAINT-1hey.p.30
11:18:19.5CAFA-1hey, we didn't hear anything.p.30
11:18:21.5CAINT-1okay.p.30
11:18:22.0CAFA-1it was very very low. DCA19FA089p.30
11:18:23.4CAINT-1yeah, I know I don't know what’s wrong with mine, but we, we went missed, as you can tell-p.31
11:18:27.7CAFA-1yeah.p.31
11:18:28.1CAINT-1eh as I had mentioned earlier so we're gonna give this another try.p.31
11:18:31.4CAFA-1okay.p.31
11:18:31.9CAINT-1okay? thanks bye.p.31
11:18:35.7FOHOT-2alright so this time I'll stay on the flight director until, things start screaming minimums-p.31
11:18:38.9CAHOT-1yeah.p.31
11:18:40.1CAHOT-1yup.p.31
11:18:40.3FOHOT-2then I'll look up-p.31
11:18:41.7FOHOT-2if there's nothing there then we'll go, if there is something there we'll land.p.31
11:18:41.7CAHOT-1yup.p.31
11:18:43.4CAHOT-1yup. DCA19FA089p.31
11:18:44.5CAHOT-1yup, sounds good.p.32
11:18:44.7FOHOT-2and what I gonna be specific lookin' for is lights that surround this airport.p.32
11:18:47.9CAHOT-1yup, yup.p.32
11:18:51.7FOHOT-2and you said you did see 'em last time?p.32
11:18:53.8CAHOT-1I ah ah saw the thing but ah I said everything is white down there, so.p.32
11:18:57.4FOHOT-2yeah all I saw was the antennas at the end of the runway.p.32
11:19:00.3CAHOT-1yeah, yeah I'll give you the countdown five four three two one, at two, you know, obviously (take) the autopilot on and just stay on the- and that ah, the flight director, okay, yeah, yeah.p.32
11:19:03.1FOHOT-2yeah.p.32
11:19:08.2FOHOT-2yeah I'll stay on the flight director this time.p.32
11:19:11.7FOHOT-2I just thought we could pick it up man we just, I did not see it. I thought I saw it, that was the problem. DCA19FA089p.32
11:19:13.8CAHOT-1yeah no worries, yeah no worries. just stay on the flight director and the glideslope and ah a lot of times what I do is I'll-p.33
11:19:18.4FOHOT-2yeah.p.33
11:19:20.7ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three turn left heading of one niner zero.p.33
11:19:24.1CARDO-1left turn one ninety CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.33
11:19:26.9CAHOT-1is I'll stay in there 'cause otherwise once you go out visual, it's ah- you know you start going high and low and then it gets really screwed up so.p.33
11:19:35.1FOHOT-2yup, no I agree.p.33
11:19:39.0FOHOT-2that's just me being a rookie.p.33
11:19:40.9CAHOT-1I know, yeah.p.33
11:19:56.8CAHOT-1are you okay to try this again or?p.33
11:19:58.0FOHOT-2oh I'm okay I just I just realized my error last time 'cause I, I was overconfident and said oh we got it now.p.33
11:19:59.0CAHOT-1* *. DCA19FA089p.33
11:20:00.8CAHOT-1* *.p.34
11:20:03.7CAHOT-1yeah.p.34
11:20:04.1FOHOT-2then I went visual.p.34
11:20:04.9CAHOT-1it's really white down there.p.34
11:20:05.8FOHOT-2after I went visual I * * * quickly realized that was the wrong way to do business.p.34
11:20:07.7CAHOT-1yeah.p.34
11:20:07.8◦HOTincoming call, incoming call [electronic voice].p.34
11:20:10.0CAHOT-1* * * if you guys are doing other * go for it * * is showing good.p.34
11:20:15.3FOHOT-2'kay.p.34
11:20:22.8CAHOT-1yeah stay inside and I'll let you know when you can look up.p.34
11:20:25.5FOHOT-2you got it.p.34
11:20:36.4CAHOT-1if I say a go missed- DCA19FA089p.34
11:20:38.3CAHOT-1give it power. alright? TOGA check thrust. first thing.p.35
11:20:38.6FOHOT-2T- just TOGA and go.p.35
11:20:40.6FOHOT-2yeah.p.35
11:21:17.4ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three turn left heading one zero zero.p.35
11:21:20.6CARDO-1left turn one zero zero CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.35
11:21:22.4CAHOT-1I would start slowing down * * FEROG and then ah glideslope probably comin' in.p.35
11:21:29.1CARDO-1Presque Isle maintenance CommutAir forty nine thirty three we're takin' a left turn for FEROG now so.p.35
11:21:41.0CAHOT-1'kay I don't know what that was.p.35
11:21:46.2CARDO-1Presque Isle maintenance CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.35
11:21:49.4MAIMAINTforty nine thirty three Presque Isle maintenance.p.35
11:21:51.5CARDO-1yes sir okay we're gonna give this one a try we're takin' ah here to FEROG which I believe is about sixteen miles out or so less than that so ah we're lookin' about seven minutes out. DCA19FA089p.35
11:22:01.8MAIMAINTyeah we'll be clear runway one and the lights are on bright.p.36
11:22:05.7CARDO-1appreciate it sir.p.36
11:22:09.4CAHOT-1alright we got this.p.36
11:22:13.7CAHOT-1one oh eight seven you got that in?p.36
11:22:17.4◦HOTincoming call, incoming call [electronic voice].p.36
11:23:38.4FOHOT-2he has not cleared us, has he?p.36
11:23:39.7CAHOT-1no.p.36
11:23:41.2ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three you are eight miles south ofp.36
11:23:41.2EXCEXCALturn left heading zero four zero maintain three thousand two hundred until established on the localizer cleared ILS runway one approach into Presque Isle.p.36
11:23:52.4CAHOT-1zero four zero cleared for the ILS ah runway one CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.36
11:23:56.3FOHOT-2got the ground already this time.p.36
11:23:57.8CAHOT-1yeah. DCA19FA089p.36
11:23:58.5ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three you are eight miles south ofp.37
11:23:58.5EXCEXCALturn left heading zero four zero maintain three thousand two hundred 'til established on the localizer clearedp.37
11:23:58.5ILSILSrunway one approach.p.37
11:23:58.6CAHOT-1remember (airspeed) * * *. ah.p.37
11:24:08.3CARDO-1yeah sorry about that we're on the other frequency zero four zero cleared for the ILS runway one CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.37
11:24:13.7ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three affirmative and report established on the localizer.p.37
11:24:17.6CARDO-1will advise CommutAir forty nine thirty three.p.37
11:24:20.9FOHOT-2alright. I'm a-.p.37
11:24:21.1CARDO-1Presque Isle traffic CommutAir forty nine thirty three is ah over FEROG ah inbound for the ILS runway one.p.37
11:24:28.0CAHOT-1so I'm workin' two frequencies here.p.37
11:25:03.4CAHOT-1(alright) localizer's comin' in alive.p.37
11:25:06.8FOHOT-2localizer is alive so is the glideslope.p.37
11:25:09.2CAHOT-1yup. DCA19FA089p.37
11:25:15.9CAHOT-1*.p.38
11:25:21.2FOHOT-2this whole CORAC business right here is I think that's got to be recycled or somethin'.p.38
11:25:25.3CAHOT-1I'll do direct to ah EXCAL now okay?p.38
11:25:26.2FOHOT-2yeah.p.38
11:25:28.6FOHOT-2yeah we can do gear down flaps twenty two.p.38
11:25:30.5◦CAM[sound of increased broadband background noise].p.38
11:25:30.6CAHOT-1gear down, flaps twenty two.p.38
11:25:33.5CARDO-1CommutAir forty nine thirty is ah established on the localizer runway one to Presque Isle.p.38
11:25:38.4ATCCTRCommutAir forty nine thirty three roger change to advisory frequency is approved you can cancel with me in the air on this frequency or on the ground on one two one point six.p.38
11:25:45.5CARDO-1roger will advise thank you * *.p.38
11:25:47.4ATCCTRroger. DCA19FA089p.38
11:25:49.2CARDO-1Presque Isle traffic CommutAir forty nine thirty three is inbound for runway one.p.39
11:25:54.6CAHOT-1alright. keep it in.p.39
11:25:59.6FOHOT-2alright takin' my cues from you @.p.39
11:26:01.8CAHOT-1you got it just stay in, stay on that ah flight director okay?p.39
11:26:04.3FOHOT-2you got it.p.39
11:26:15.4CAHOT-1actually we're gonna keep this *.p.39
11:26:17.0FOHOT-2flaps forty five landing check.p.39
11:26:22.9CAHOT-1flaps forty five landing che- landing gear down three green?p.39
11:26:26.1FOHOT-2that's verified.p.39
11:26:27.0CAHOT-1alright ahh. flight attendants notified landing gear three green * flaps forty five landing check is complete. alright sounds good.p.39
11:26:33.7CAHOT-1* * (thirty). DCA19FA089p.39
11:26:41.2CAHOT-1(keep it right) here. keep it in here, okay?p.40
11:26:43.7FOHOT-2you got it.p.40
11:26:44.8CAHOT-1because this (won't) screw you up, *.p.40
11:26:51.4CARDO-1Presque Isle traffic CommutAir forty nine thirty three is four miles ah runway one.p.40
11:27:01.0CAHOT-1that is EXCAL.p.40
11:27:20.6CAHOT-1thousand feet, you're stable.p.40
11:27:56.9CAHOT-1five hundred.p.40
11:27:58.7FOHOT-2five hundred cleared to land. I'm inside you're outside.p.40
11:28:01.1CAHOT-1cleared to land stay in.p.40
11:28:07.0CAHOT-1four hundred.p.40
11:28:09.3CAHOT-1keep the autopilot on until two okay?p.40
11:28:11.0FOHOT-2I will.p.40
11:28:14.4CAHOT-1alright three hundred. DCA19FA089p.40
11:28:21.8CAHOT-1alright there's two hundred, get the autopilot off.p.41
11:28:25.5FOHOT-2you said on?p.41
11:28:26.3CAHOT-1ah autopilot off, yeah.p.41
11:28:27.5FOHOT-2off.p.41
11:28:28.2CAHOT-1yeah, yeah.p.41
11:28:28.4◦HOTautopilot, autopilot [electronic voice].p.41
11:28:29.6◦HOTapproaching minimums [electronic voice].p.41
11:28:30.4CAHOT-1one hundred.p.41
11:28:37.3◦HOTminimums, minimums [electronic voice].p.41
11:28:39.1CAHOT-1alright runway in sight twelve o'clock lights are ah.p.41
11:28:42.0FOHOT-2'kay I'm stayin' on the flight director 'cause I don't see it yet.p.41
11:28:42.1CAHOT-1* *. stay in, stay in. just stay in it. stay in, stay in.p.41
11:28:45.9◦HOTone hundred [electronic voice]. DCA19FA089p.41
11:28:47.1CAHOT-1stay in, okay? stay in. ah # is it?p.42
11:28:52.7CAHOT-1what the, #.p.42
11:28:52.9◦CAM[sound of impulsive noise].p.42
11:28:53.5FOHOT-2I don't know what I'm seein'.p.42
11:28:54.5CAHOT-1ah.p.42
11:28:54.6◦CAM[sound of high level impulsive noise].p.42
11:28:55.3◦HOTlanding gear [electronic voice].p.42
11:28:57.4◦HOT[sound of master warning].p.42
11:28:58.8◦HOTtakeoff [electronic voice].p.42
11:29:00.4◦HOTflaps [electronic voice].p.42
11:29:02.0◦HOTbrakes [electronic voice].p.42
11:29:03.7◦HOT[sound of master warning].p.42
11:29:05.1◦HOTlanding gear [electronic voice]. DCA19FA089p.42
11:29:05.3CACAM-1I got it, I got it, the localizer was * *.p.43
11:29:08.2◦HOT[repeated aural configuration warnings].p.43
11:29:09.1FOCAM-2the localizer was what?p.43
11:29:10.0CACAM-1the localizer was *. it's alright. that's alright.p.43
11:29:14.0CACAM-1what the #.p.43
11:29:17.6CAPA-1remain seated, remain seated, remain seated.p.43
11:29:20.5CAPA-1remain seated, remain seated.p.43
11:29:20.6OBCAM-3-remain seated, remain seated-p.43
11:29:23.6CACAM-1run the checklist [repeated seven times].p.43
11:29:33.8FOCAM-2*.p.43
11:29:39.1CACAM-1remain seated, remain seated.p.43
11:29:45.5FOCAM-2what checklist do you want me to run @ .p.43
11:29:49.4CACAM-1(let's run the) shutdown check. shutdown. DCA19FA089p.43
11:29:52.9◦CAM[sounds consistent with checklist usage and aircraft evacuation].p.44
11:29:52.9◦CAM[sound of interphone chime].p.44