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MCDONNELL DOUGLAS MD80Ameristar Air Cargo, Inc.

800 lines · 12:50:06 – 14:53:47 · Ypsilanti, MI, 2017-03-08

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CaptainFirst officerControllersWarningsSounds
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  • 14:52:23CAM[sounds consistent with departure from the prepared surface].
  • 14:52:27CAMspeed brake speed brake speed brake [electronic voice].
  • 14:52:27FA-1heads down, stay down, heads down, stay down, heads down, stay down.
  • 14:52:32CAMlanding gear landing gear [multiple repetitions electronic voice].
  • 14:52:37PA-1evacuate, evacuate, evacuate.
  • 14:52:41CAM-2it wasn't flying. it wasn't - I had it all the way back here it wasn't flying.
  • 14:52:46CAM[sounds consistent with emergency evacuation of the cabin].
  • 14:53:12CAM-2it was not rotating I had it all the way back here.
  • 14:53:29CAM-2#.
  • 14:53:47HOT-1evacuation checklist. 14:53:49 End of Recording 14:53:49 End of Transcript DCA17FA076

Crew communication

800 lines readobservations a human-factors reviewer takes from a transcript — the sterile cockpit, the Board's own notations, rhythm, CRM markers. Not emotions, not scores: the affect is in the audio, and the audio is sealed
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non-pertinent talk in sterile window
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laughter · delivery · expletives
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crew questions unanswered in 8 s
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warnings with a crew response in 5 s
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Utterances per minute, one row per speaker on one clock. shaded = sterile-cockpit window · red = end of recording.
Sterile cockpit · 14 CFR 121.542

Window: 14:49:43–14:52:23 · basis: recorder pressure altitude below 10,000 ft. Candidate non-pertinent lines below are a first reading for the investigator, not a finding; “@” marks the Board's own non-pertinent-word notation.

No candidate non-pertinent conversation inside the window.

The Board’s own notations

Delivery and physiological notes the transcribers added in brackets, plus # expletives. 327 words are marked unintelligible (*).

  • #13:07:10“better not be # gusting to thirty knots out of the west.”
  • electronic voice13:12:46“[sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] brake [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] flaps [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice13:12:46“[sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] brake [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] flaps [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice13:12:46“[sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] brake [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] flaps [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice].”
  • electronic voice13:12:46“[sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] brake [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] flaps [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice].”
  • #13:13:35“feel sorry for the regional guys that're only going like an hour out of Metro and then coming back, you gotta fly in this # all day.”
  • #13:14:12“#.”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:15:51“they gotta send it to the other side * the power is out. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:16:11“* got a little problem. ahm Willow Run. ah. tower is closed. airport uncontrolled because they lost power. ATIS is out of service. * last weather reported. you gotta call in to * * * one six five three. ah how do we legally take off? [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:16:44“yup. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:16:53“gusting to fifty two knots *. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:17:08“well @ is fine sir. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:17:25“comes back and say how did you guys take off. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:17:53“* can you call Ameristar and find out where our paperwork's * talk to @. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:18:13“* fuel burn ***. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:18:34“hi @ is @ there please? thank you. thank you. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:18:41“yeah they reported I think eleven on the sixteen fifty three weather. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:18:55“hi @ it's @ ah @ asked me to call you they still, they still have not brought our paperwork out **** we'll keep watching for it part of the airport, part of the airport has lost power so, we'll keep looking for it. alright perfect okay excellent. thank you. yeah bye bye. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • consistent with cell phone call13:18:58“* at what time? seventeen? okay and that was ten point *? okay. * appreciate it. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • multiple unintelligible voices14:04:50“[multiple unintelligible voices].”
  • consistent with cell phone call14:06:56“[sound similar to phone ringtone] honey I gotta call you when I get to Washington, I'm very busy *****. [consistent with cell phone call].”
  • unintelligible voices14:10:16“[unintelligible voices].”
  • multiple unintelligible background voices14:21:10“[multiple unintelligible background voices].”
  • occasional unintelligible background voices14:27:41“[occasional unintelligible background voices].”
  • +41 more
Silences of 45 s or more
Concerns voiced, and what followed

Hedged or questioning lines from one pilot in the critical window, with the other pilot’s next words.

  • 14:51:18“looks like the wind is a little bit from the right.”
    → 14:51:20“right.”
Warnings and the response

No warning-system lines in the transcript.

Questions between the pilots left unanswered
  • 12:56:52“okay there's that one. and then for ah loading. ah can I just get the first names for the guys that are gonna load?”
  • 12:57:14“ahm @?”
  • 13:03:42“I want to me show you this real quick. using nine degrees so ten degrees Fahrenheit * * one forty six V-speeds right here. is that, did I do that (correct)?”
  • 13:10:01“there are no M-E-Ls here. ah taxi operations we'll just go right here golf to two three left. no hot spots. departure NOTAMS * frequencies are out of service we'll have to get our clearance some other way. and we'll use C-TAF to announce our intentions. departure SID ahm there is none, initial course of whatever they give us to ah join the ah course into CARLETON. two thirty three the initial heading, just runway heading. altitude we know is gonna be three thousand feet, probably eighteen ninety five for a Detroit ah departure, transponder code * *. call out any abnormals that you see. really keep an eye out on what our airspeed is doing today. ahm, in the event of an engine fire or failure at or after V-1 we're going to continue the takeoff, treat it as an inflight emergency just head on over to Metro. level off height here is fifteen sixteen and is no * * procedure. and ah we'll head on over to Metro and do it visually. ah stall warning or windshear warning, we're not expecting any kind of stall today, but ah windshear for sure, keep an eye out on the ah, if you get any kind of a warning it's gonna be max thrust, ah all the way to firewall thrust if necessary, leave the aircraft configured, we'll fly out of the shear, back me up on the ah airspeed calls and the * speed calls. any questions anything to add?”
  • 13:12:44“takeoff warning?”
  • 13:29:28“which AVFLT?”
  • 13:29:51“why don't we ask one of the?”
  • 13:35:37“hey @?”
  • 13:37:23“* full already?”
  • 13:37:31“seven in the mid already?”
  • 13:42:18“not hearing anything?”
  • 13:57:53“maintenance said told me that you gotta have a signal going from NAV one one to the the autothrottles. it's like why would, why would that be connected?”
  • +7 more
Standard callouts
Rotate / VrV1 · not in transcriptV2 · not in transcriptPositive rate · not in transcriptGear up · not in transcript1,000 ft · not in transcript500 ft · not in transcriptMinimums · not in transcriptGear down · not in transcriptRunway in sight · not in transcriptGo around · not in transcriptStabilized · not in transcript

“Not in transcript” never means “not said”: a line may be unintelligible, or the recording may not cover that phase.

Language, as counts
Speakerwordsquestionshedgesexclamationsexpletiveschecklistsnon-pertinent lines
Captain2,564651767619
First officer2,3124414431135

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12:50:06FOCAM-2ah we wanna see that right side put back.p.7
12:50:12CACAM-1I might go in and get the * *.p.7
12:50:15FOCAM-2alright.p.7
12:50:16FOCAM-2you walked around and did all that?p.7
12:50:17CACAM-1yeah absolutely.p.7
12:50:35◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversations consistent with passenger boarding].p.7
12:55:50CAHDL-1man alive.p.7
12:56:09CAHDL-1will be, should be pretty fun getting this thing off of the ground huh?p.7
12:56:12FOCAM-2yeah glad I don't have to get it back on the ground. Ahm thanks for comin' over.p.7
12:56:16CAHDL-1yeah no problem. better up here than out there.p.7
12:56:23FOCAM-2ahm just a couple forms we have to fill out for ground handlers. if you could please just write your name and then sign right there. DCA17FA076p.7
12:56:28CAHDL-1okay. okay.p.8
12:56:36FOCAM-2appreciate it.p.8
12:56:37CAHDL-1yeah no problem.p.8
12:56:43FOCAM-2all that form is, is ah, certifying that you received training on all the duties that you already know how to do, so.p.8
12:56:51CAHDL-1right right.p.8
12:56:52FOCAM-2okay there's that one. and then for ah loading. ah can I just get the first names for the guys that are gonna load?p.8
12:57:02CAHDL-1yeah @, @, @, and @.p.8
12:57:14FOCAM-2ahm @?p.8
12:57:15CAHDL-1yes.p.8
12:57:19FOCAM-2okay when you load the bags start with the far backp.8
12:57:23CAHDL-1* the back first.p.8
12:57:24FOCAM-2the back of the back.p.8
12:57:25CAHDL-1I'll get yeah. DCA17FA076p.8
12:57:26FOCAM-2and as soon as that's full then go the front of the number three pit.p.9
12:57:29CAHDL-1okay.p.9
12:57:30FOCAM-2and then hopefully everything will fit there if not then you know work your way forward.p.9
12:57:34CAHDL-1okay.p.9
12:57:35FOCAM-2cause this thing is ah nose-heavy so.p.9
12:57:38FOCAM-2the more weight we can get in the back the better.p.9
12:57:40CAHDL-1okay.p.9
12:57:40FOCAM-2and then keep track of the number of bags in each -p.9
12:57:42CAHDL-1yes sir.p.9
12:57:43FOCAM-2location please.p.9
12:57:44CAHDL-1yeah can do.p.9
12:57:45FOCAM-2thank you appreciate it.p.9
12:57:46CAHDL-1yeah no problem. DCA17FA076p.9
12:57:47FOCAM-2alright good luck. we're all counting on you. [laughter].p.10
12:59:27◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.10
13:01:11CACAM-1alright (can) you get some, speeds for a hundred and forty six thousand?p.10
13:01:18FOCAM-2that is gonna be the weight?p.10
13:01:23FOCAM-2we have a current temp?p.10
13:01:24FOCAM-2just get off of ah.p.10
13:01:26CACAM-1* below (nine) * *.p.10
13:01:30CACAM-1let's go off of this one, nine degrees.p.10
13:01:32FOCAM-2okay.p.10
13:01:39CACAM-1you got that, good deal. **.p.10
13:01:48◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.10
13:03:42FOCAM-2I want to me show you this real quick. using nine degrees so ten degrees Fahrenheit * * one forty six V-speeds right here. is that, did I do that (correct)?p.10
13:03:53CACAM-1* * ten (knots)? DCA17FA076p.10
13:03:54FOCAM-2I'm sorry yeah, you need to be in this column.p.11
13:03:58FOCAM-2so it's, all the way down here?p.11
13:04:01CACAM-1yeah. So * speed yeah. right there. flaps sixteen * use flaps fifteen.p.11
13:04:06FOCAM-2fifteen okay very good.p.11
13:04:07CACAM-1fifteen.p.11
13:04:11CACAM-1so what I used to do then, use max thrust.p.11
13:04:15FOCAM-2yeah.p.11
13:04:16CACAM-1flaps fifteen.p.11
13:04:18FOCAM-2and then stab that's for stab which we don't know yet. and then speeds are one thirty nine.p.11
13:04:23CACAM-1one thirty nine.p.11
13:04:24FOCAM-2one forty two.p.11
13:04:25CACAM-1one forty two.p.11
13:04:26FOCAM-2one fifty.p.11
13:04:27CACAM-1* fifty. DCA17FA076p.11
13:04:28FOCAM-2one sixty five.p.12
13:04:30FOCAM-2and then the other * *.p.12
13:04:32CACAM-1** delay rotation until at least V-two.p.12
13:04:36FOCAM-2yeah, that's.p.12
13:04:37CACAM-1*** wait for me to call it.p.12
13:04:39FOCAM-2yup.p.12
13:04:46FOCAM-2I'd like to try to put the flightplan in the box if that's *. for practice.p.12
13:04:50CACAM-1I'll ah read them off for you.p.12
13:04:55CACAM-1CARLETON.p.12
13:04:56FOCAM-2* hold on.p.12
13:05:05FOCAM-2okay go ahead.p.12
13:05:08CACAM-1next one is gonna be ah WOOST w- oscar oscar ah sie- sierra tango.p.12
13:05:16CACAM-1next one is ah romeo india echo kilo echo.p.12
13:05:26FOCAM-2okay. DCA17FA076p.12
13:05:27CACAM-1next one is dryer delta juliet bravo.p.13
13:05:30FOCAM-2yup.p.13
13:05:34CACAM-1next one is ah bravo oscar bravo charlie tango.p.13
13:05:44CACAM-1next one is a BIGLE bravo india golf lima echo.p.13
13:05:53FOCAM-2'kay.p.13
13:05:56CACAM-1next one is BLISS bravo lima india sierra sierra.p.13
13:06:02◦CAM[unintelligible background conversations].p.13
13:06:05CACAM-1next one is OTMAN oscar tango mike alpha november.p.13
13:06:16CACAM-1next one is JAMOX juliet alpha mike oscar x-ray.p.13
13:06:24FOCAM-2'kay.p.13
13:06:26CACAM-1next one is LAYED lima alpha yankee echo delta.p.13
13:06:38CACAM-1do we have any stars in there?p.13
13:06:41FOCAM-2oh that's, that's it?p.13
13:06:45FOCAM-2****.p.13
13:06:46CACAM-1yeah. DCA17FA076p.13
13:06:49CACAM-1H-V-Q. let me see what's (wrong) with (any of that).p.14
13:06:57CACAM-1* * * winds out of the west *.p.14
13:07:10CACAM-1better not be # gusting to thirty knots out of the west.p.14
13:07:15FOCAM-2well then we'll use ah three zero * we have to.p.14
13:07:18CACAM-1huh?p.14
13:07:19FOCAM-2have to use three zero then.p.14
13:07:25CACAM-1yeah just put ah. put one nine right down for now.p.14
13:07:29FOCAM-2one nine right.p.14
13:07:35CACAM-1(let’s go).p.14
13:07:36FOCAM-2ah you wanna review it before you execute?p.14
13:07:38CACAM-1*.p.14
13:07:40FOCAM-2so, HUNTINGTON, GIBBS two.p.14
13:07:44CACAM-1you gotta go to the legs page.p.14
13:07:45FOCAM-2legs.p.14
13:07:48FOCAM-2CARLETON, WOOST, RIEKE, DRYER, BOBCAT. DCA17FA076p.14
13:07:54FOCAM-2BIGLE, BLISS, OTMAN, JAMOX, LAYED.p.15
13:07:59FOCAM-2and I should close this discontinuity, right?p.15
13:08:01CACAM-1yeah.p.15
13:08:04FOCAM-2HUNTINGTON, PINFA, WOOJO, BERT, WHO. BEEZLY, GIZMO, BBONE, KILMER, AUTO, MAY, GRIFFIN, GIBBS, SUNY, J, Y-D-Y-U-whatever, M- A-T-T-C then vectors, CLAY, MOHE now we're on for the runway, so.p.15
13:08:30CACAM-1we'll just see what - we'll check it * it didn't match the last two fixes but that might be because of the runway.p.15
13:08:30FOCAM-2* *.p.15
13:08:35FOCAM-2right, right.p.15
13:08:36CACAM-1we'll check it *.p.15
13:08:37FOCAM-2I'll execute, and then ah.p.15
13:08:41FOCAM-2total distance.p.15
13:08:44FOCAM-2what do you have for the - I have ah five hundred and forty three, nautical miles?p.15
13:08:48CACAM-1yeah. DCA17FA076p.15
13:08:49FOCAM-2is that right?p.16
13:08:50CACAM-1yeah that's with the I-L-S.p.16
13:08:52FOCAM-2sure, sure.p.16
13:09:01CAHOT-1it's an hour down there password will be @.p.16
13:09:09FOCAM-2current time is eighteen oh nine, thirty, seven.p.16
13:09:15CACAM-1three thousand.p.16
13:09:25FOCAM-2* * * thirty three?p.16
13:09:25CAMCAM-?***.p.16
13:09:27CAMCAM-?okay.p.16
13:09:29CACAM-1ah, let's go ahead and do the brief ***.p.16
13:09:32FOCAM-2alright. it's gonna be a left seat takeoff. a hundred and forty six thousand pounds flaps fifteen. speeds one thirty nine, one forty tow, one fifty, one sixty five, one ninety nine, two forty eight. max thrust we are going to delay our rotation because of the gusty, strong gusty winds, do the short segment climb checklist * better immediate return, quite honestly, I think it would be prudent to go over to Metro for the longer runway -p.16
13:09:58CACAM-1absolutely, we're not coming *. DCA17FA076p.16
13:10:01FOCAM-2there are no M-E-Ls here. ah taxi operations we'll just go right here golf to two three left. no hot spots. departure NOTAMS * frequencies are out of service we'll have to get our clearance some other way. and we'll use C-TAF to announce our intentions. departure SID ahm there is none, initial course of whatever they give us to ah join the ah course into CARLETON. two thirty three the initial heading, just runway heading. altitude we know is gonna be three thousand feet, probably eighteen ninety five for a Detroit ah departure, transponder code * *. call out any abnormals that you see. really keep an eye out on what our airspeed is doing today. ahm, in the event of an engine fire or failure at or after V-1 we're going to continue the takeoff, treat it as an inflight emergency just head on over to Metro. level off height here is fifteen sixteen and is no * * procedure. and ah we'll head on over to Metro and do it visually. ah stall warning or windshear warning, we're not expecting any kind of stall today, but ah windshear for sure, keep an eye out on the ah, if you get any kind of a warning it's gonna be max thrust, ah all the way to firewall thrust if necessary, leave the aircraft configured, we'll fly out of the shear, back me up on the ah airspeed calls and the * speed calls. any questions anything to add?p.17
13:11:27CACAM-1nope.p.17
13:11:29FOCAM-2let's do the ah before start to the line.p.17
13:11:35FOCAM-2is the mirror up to remind you of anything, for a reason? or, is that just up? DCA17FA076p.17
13:11:41CACAM-1briefing complete?p.18
13:11:42FOCAM-2completed, set.p.18
13:11:44CACAM-1* * *.p.18
13:11:45FOCAM-2three on board.p.18
13:11:46CACAM-1cockpit preparations.p.18
13:11:46FOCAM-2are complete.p.18
13:11:48CACAM-1* preflight inspection?p.18
13:11:49FOCAM-2completed.p.18
13:11:49CACAM-1* windows?p.18
13:11:50FOCAM-2closed and locked.p.18
13:11:51CACAM-1**.p.18
13:11:51CACAM-1* circuit breakers?p.18
13:11:52FOCAM-2are checked.p.18
13:11:53CACAM-1checked oxygen and interphone.p.18
13:11:55FOCAM-2checked on one hundred percent. DCA17FA076p.18
13:11:57CACAM-1checked on one hundred percent, smoke goggles?p.19
13:11:58FOCAM-2are checked.p.19
13:11:59CACAM-1pressurization?p.19
13:12:01FOCAM-2is ah auto up and set.p.19
13:12:02CACAM-1air conditioning shutoff?p.19
13:12:04FOCAM-2is auto.p.19
13:12:04CACAM-1anti-skid?p.19
13:12:05FOCAM-2is armed.p.19
13:12:06CACAM-1(E)GPWS.p.19
13:12:07FOCAM-2tested.p.19
13:12:07CACAM-1***.p.19
13:12:10FOCAM-2all normal. normal.p.19
13:12:10CACAM-1emergency lights?p.19
13:12:11FOCAM-2ah armed.p.19
13:12:14CACAM-1seatbelt no smoking sign? DCA17FA076p.19
13:12:15FOCAM-2on.p.20
13:12:16FOCAM-2* * *?p.20
13:12:17FOCAM-2ah checked and set.p.20
13:12:21FOCAM-2checked and set.p.20
13:12:22CACAM-1clocks and altimeters?p.20
13:12:24FOCAM-2I've got ah twelve minutes past. altimeter two niner eight one. seven hundred and eighty feet checked and set.p.20
13:12:28CACAM-1eighteen twelve, two niner eight one, * * set. F-M- S?p.20
13:12:34FOCAM-2checked and set.p.20
13:12:40CACAM-1checked and set. engine oil quantity?p.20
13:12:42FOCAM-2is checked.p.20
13:12:44CACAM-1takeoff warning?p.20
13:12:46◦CAM[sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] brake [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] flaps [electronic voice], [sound of warning tone] slats [electronic voice].p.20
13:12:54FOCAM-2checked. DCA17FA076p.20
13:12:56CACAM-1ah rudder power?p.21
13:12:57FOCAM-2power.p.21
13:12:59CACAM-1radar?p.21
13:12:59FOCAM-2is off.p.21
13:13:01CACAM-1transponder?p.21
13:13:02FOCAM-2standby.p.21
13:13:03CACAM-1radios?p.21
13:13:04FOCAM-2are set.p.21
13:13:04CACAM-1set.p.21
13:13:05CACAM-1rudder and aileron trim?p.21
13:13:07FOCAM-2free and zero.p.21
13:13:08CACAM-1parking brakes.p.21
13:13:09FOCAM-2set * checked.p.21
13:13:11FOCAM-2(thank you). DCA17FA076p.21
13:13:35FOCAM-2feel sorry for the regional guys that're only going like an hour out of Metro and then coming back, you gotta fly in this # all day.p.22
13:13:49FOCAM-2at least long haul you can take off and get outta here.p.22
13:14:12FOCAM-2#.p.22
13:14:13CAMCAM-?****.p.22
13:14:39ATCATISWillow Run tower information X-ray 1653z winds two six zero at three five gust five zero visibility one zero sky clear below one two thousand temperature one one dew point minus one one altimeter 29.81 remarks *** 1639z runway five right circle to land runway two seven ** landing and departing runway two seven ****.p.22
13:15:31CACAM-1I'm gonna, I'm gonna call ask @ can we legally use this weather? because I'm not, I'm not gonna have the FAA come afterwards, how did you guys take off outta there? hold on one second.p.22
13:15:40FOCAM-2yeah that's fine.p.22
13:15:43◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.22
13:15:45FOCAM-2you have the ah flight plan handy?p.22
13:15:48CACAM-1they're gonna bring it out. DCA17FA076p.22
13:15:51CACAM-1they gotta send it to the other side * the power is out. [consistent with cell phone call].p.23
13:16:11CACAM-1* got a little problem. ahm Willow Run. ah. tower is closed. airport uncontrolled because they lost power. ATIS is out of service. * last weather reported. you gotta call in to * * * one six five three. ah how do we legally take off? [consistent with cell phone call].p.23
13:16:44CACAM-1yup. [consistent with cell phone call].p.23
13:16:53CACAM-1gusting to fifty two knots *. [consistent with cell phone call].p.23
13:16:57◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.23
13:17:00CACAM-1****.p.23
13:17:08CACAM-1well @ is fine sir. [consistent with cell phone call].p.23
13:17:12FOCAM-2tell him the risk assessment went way up.p.23
13:17:25CACAM-1yeah I just want to have something on record if thep.23
13:17:25FAAFAAcomes back and say how did you guys take off. [consistent with cell phone call].p.23
13:17:51FOCAM-2they're comin' out. DCA17FA076p.23
13:17:53CACAM-1* can you call Ameristar and find out where our paperwork's * talk to @. [consistent with cell phone call].p.24
13:17:59◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.24
13:18:13CACAM-1* fuel burn ***. [consistent with cell phone call].p.24
13:18:20FOCAM-2breezy out there.p.24
13:18:34FOCAM-2hi @ is @ there please? thank you. thank you. [consistent with cell phone call].p.24
13:18:41CACAM-1yeah they reported I think eleven on the sixteen fifty three weather. [consistent with cell phone call].p.24
13:18:55FOCAM-2hi @ it's @ ah @ asked me to call you they still, they still have not brought our paperwork out **** we'll keep watching for it part of the airport, part of the airport has lost power so, we'll keep looking for it. alright perfect okay excellent. thank you. yeah bye bye. [consistent with cell phone call].p.24
13:18:58CACAM-1* at what time? seventeen? okay and that was ten point *? okay. * appreciate it. [consistent with cell phone call].p.24
13:19:34FOCAM-2he got an e-mail from somebody that it's on its way, but he's gonna call again to follow up.p.24
13:20:33CACAM-1It's all * * start loading aft * *. DCA17FA076p.24
13:20:37FOCAM-2and to keep track of the bags. he understood all that, so.p.25
13:20:51FOCAM-2that's extra envelope is for, Dulles, and then I got a fuel vendor audit out for Dulles, and then the PHM- four -p.25
13:20:59FOCAM-2did you set this thing ***?p.25
13:21:00FOCAM-2I did not, you don't have too.p.25
13:21:03CACAM-1ah I don't know * * *.p.25
13:21:05FOCAM-2the PHM-four is still out and the HAZMAT form is still out.p.25
13:21:09◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.25
13:21:17◦CAM[sound consistent with stab trim aural annunciation].p.25
13:21:31FA-FA-4it's pretty nice for you, you don't have to screen.p.25
13:21:33CAMCAM-?huh?p.25
13:21:34FOCAM-2hey @ how are you?p.25
13:21:35FA-FA-?we're not making any money though. and we're not making any money for your guys, like we always do. DCA17FA076p.25
13:21:37FA-FA-4* we're missin' out on our twenty eight bucks.p.26
13:21:44FA-FA-4yeah you guys screen and we get the money.p.26
13:21:48FOCAM-2oh you said screen, I though you said nice for us that we didn't have to scream.p.26
13:21:52FA-FA-4ah we'll do that during takeoff, I'm sure.p.26
13:21:56FOCAM-2I was trying to figure out what you meant. I thought-p.26
13:21:58CAMCAM-?security.p.26
13:21:59FOCAM-2yeah I got it.p.26
13:22:03CACAM-1I didn't see the shear ***.p.26
13:22:07◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.26
13:22:29CACAM-1thank you. appreciate it. for some reason they don't have any power here.p.26
13:22:30CAMCAM-?***.p.26
13:22:34CACAM-1thank you appreciate it.p.26
13:22:35FOCAM-2thanks for bringing it over.p.26
13:22:36CAMCAM-?yeah, cool. DCA17FA076p.26
13:22:38CAMCAM-?***.p.27
13:22:39FOCAM-2oh yeah.p.27
13:22:42OBHDL-3even rockin' the airplane *.p.27
13:22:44FOCAM-2oh yeah.p.27
13:22:52OBHDL-3should be everything there. hopefully.p.27
13:22:55CAMCAM-?***.p.27
13:23:01OBHDL-3is that everything you needed?p.27
13:23:03CACAM-1well I just needed two of these but we'll make it work.p.27
13:23:05OBHDL-3oh you need two?p.27
13:23:07CACAM-1yeah no worries.p.27
13:23:10OBHDL-3can you make out without one?p.27
13:23:12CACAM-1yeah.p.27
13:23:13OBHDL-3I can go get you another if you need it.p.27
13:23:15CACAM-1no I'll I'll e-mail the it in instead of the, mailing it in.p.27
13:23:19OBHDL-3okay, have a safe flight gentlemen. thank you. DCA17FA076p.27
13:23:42◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.28
13:24:09CACAM-1it's gonna be very bumpy *.p.28
13:24:29CACAM-1[sound of sneeze] yeah you would think they would have backup generators.p.28
13:24:32FOCAM-2yeah.p.28
13:24:47FOCAM-2so you'll have to call flight service on your phone? I don't know of any other way to get 'em.p.28
13:25:28◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.28
13:25:39CACAM-1thank you.p.28
13:25:59CACAM-1* * * is ten two seventy six.p.28
13:26:05FOCAM-2*** the flight plan?p.28
13:26:07CACAM-1***?p.28
13:26:09FOCAM-2seven five forty three.p.28
13:26:15FOCAM-2***.p.28
13:26:17CACAM-1sixteen three. DCA17FA076p.28
13:27:22◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.29
13:28:54FOCAM-2so what did @ we okay to go with that recorded weather it - it's an hour old?p.29
13:28:59CACAM-1no, naw you gotta in and check on the ah ARCAM. it's it's on there in that runway analysis stuff and they have a ah I've never done it so I gotta go in myself. You, you can pull up the last temperatures that way and put a time on it. temperatures pretty much all everything you need.p.29
13:29:19CAFA-1could you guys call AVFLT and see if they ah loaded * * flagpole for the van, they're asking if we can clarify that * it's loaded on the bus.p.29
13:29:28CACAM-1which AVFLT?p.29
13:29:29CAFA-1** these people that loaded -p.29
13:29:32CACAM-1the power is out.p.29
13:29:34CAFA-1and all the water and ah.p.29
13:29:37CACAM-1I don't even have their phone number *.p.29
13:29:40◦CAM***.p.29
13:29:46FOCAM-2it was in the, it was in the bus? DCA17FA076p.29
13:29:48CAFA-1yeah.p.30
13:29:51CACAM-1why don't we ask one of the?p.30
13:29:52CAFA-1why didn't she ask that when she was inside?p.30
13:29:57CAMCAM-?whatever.p.30
13:29:59CAFA-1ah one of those one.p.30
13:30:00◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.30
13:30:17FOCAM-2here's a number if you wanna call. area seven three four, four eight two -p.30
13:30:24CACAM-1hold on a second, seven three four.p.30
13:30:27FOCAM-2four eight two.p.30
13:30:27CACAM-1yep.p.30
13:30:28FOCAM-2two six two one.p.30
13:30:34FOCAM-2* frequency ** it's not gonna work.p.30
13:30:48CACAM-1yeah the power is out.p.30
13:30:50FOCAM-2yeah so nothing's gonna work. DCA17FA076p.30
13:30:55FOCAM-2when the guy comes up to give us the bag count we'll get it from him.p.31
13:31:15CACAM-1I don't think we can reach Detroit on the ground here.p.31
13:31:18FOCAM-2I don't think so.p.31
13:31:19CACAM-1huh?p.31
13:31:20FOCAM-2we can try.p.31
13:31:22FOCAM-2it'd make life a lot easier.p.31
13:32:35◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.31
13:34:42FOCAM-2was the phone *?p.31
13:34:44CACAM-1no its a-p.31
13:34:46FOCAM-2one of their ah guys will come up and give us the bag count and we'll ask him then.p.31
13:34:50CAFA-1that's uncle @ he's inside, right?p.31
13:34:52CAMCAM-?yeah. there ya go.p.31
13:35:00CAMCAM-?I forgot about him. DCA17FA076p.31
13:35:02◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.32
13:35:37FOCAM-2hey @?p.32
13:35:54FOCAM-2hey @? Oh ah you're on the phone, I'm sorry.p.32
13:36:00CAFA-1they're coming inside right now @, so, yeah.p.32
13:36:08CAFA-1yeah it was with the luggage it was with the luggage.p.32
13:36:14◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.32
13:37:01FOHDL-2alright ahm for the rear bin we have, do you want the three sections or a total?p.32
13:37:07FOCAM-2ah three sections.p.32
13:37:07CACAM-1do you guys have the players bags and everything on?p.32
13:37:10FOHDL-2ah the second bus has just left, so they'll be here in about fifteen.p.32
13:37:14CACAM-1okay.p.32
13:37:15FOHDL-2but in the very rear section, twenty nine. DCA17FA076p.32
13:37:18FOCAM-2look wait a minute there's another bus coming, so are you gonna add to that?p.33
13:37:20FOHDL-2yes.p.33
13:37:21FOHDL-2yeah, the- this is just in the back bin.p.33
13:37:23FOCAM-2okay so.p.33
13:37:23CACAM-1* full already?p.33
13:37:24FOHDL-2the back bin's full, so twenty nine, twenty seven, and seven.p.33
13:37:31CACAM-1seven in the mid already?p.33
13:37:32FOHDL-2yeah * yeah.p.33
13:37:35CACAM-1we don't want anything in the forward, so make sure to fill up the -.p.33
13:37:39FOHDL-2* the mid? okay, yeah I mean, the basketball team normally isn't a terribly large amount. so, hopefully we'll be able to do that.p.33
13:37:46◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.33
13:37:50FOHDL-2so in D-two,p.33
13:37:53CACAM-1alright. DCA17FA076p.33
13:37:55CACAM-1twenty nine.p.34
13:37:59CACAM-1twenty nine times thirty.p.34
13:38:01CACAM-1D-two is all the way back, it's ah eight seventy.p.34
13:38:04FOCAM-2eight seven. eight seven zero.p.34
13:38:08CACAM-1* * *.p.34
13:38:12CACAM-1and a D-one, ah twenty seven bags at eight ten.p.34
13:38:18FOCAM-2okay.p.34
13:38:26CACAM-1and in C-two, you need to scratch that off and -p.34
13:38:31FOCAM-2oh because it's gonna be -p.34
13:38:32CACAM-1yeah. just initial it.p.34
13:38:42◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.34
13:38:57CACAM-1we got one eighty six, two hundred.p.34
13:39:00FOCAM-2two hundred. three seventy * * and then *.p.34
13:39:05CACAM-1* one * is.p.34
13:39:07FOCAM-2eight ten. DCA17FA076p.34
13:39:07CACAM-1eight ten.p.35
13:39:08FOCAM-2* (eight seventy).p.35
13:39:10CACAM-1(eight seventy).p.35
13:39:12CACAM-1you put fuel down already?p.35
13:39:14FOCAM-2ah, I put eighteen thousand in the wing, I did not put anything in the center yet. because I wasn't sure how much we were gonna burn down.p.35
13:39:23FOCAM-2want ah twelve thousand in the center?p.35
13:39:26CACAM-1ah we'll show ah thirty point five total fuel.p.35
13:39:28FOCAM-2so twelve five then.p.35
13:39:33CACAM-1ah we can show thirty one * * *.p.35
13:39:34FOCAM-2so then it'll be thirteen thousand in the center.p.35
13:39:38CACAM-1*.p.35
13:39:44CACAM-1*** fuel burn is, ten two seventy six, ten two seventy six.p.35
13:40:05◦CAM[sound similar to sneeze.]p.35
13:40:11FOCAM-2God bless you. DCA17FA076p.35
13:40:39◦CAM***.p.36
13:40:48FOCAM-2so @, we're gonna have both the band, and and the team on board or?p.36
13:40:52CAFA-1looks that way. [sound of laughter].p.36
13:40:56◦CAM[non-flight related conversation].p.36
13:41:26◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.36
13:41:53FOCAM-2what is ah departure eighteen ninety five out here?p.36
13:41:56CACAM-1that's Detroit.p.36
13:41:59◦HOT[sound similar to static].p.36
13:42:08◦HOT[sound similar to static].p.36
13:42:13FOCAM-2I don't think so.p.36
13:42:15CACAM-1* hearing *?p.36
13:42:18FOCAM-2not hearing anything?p.36
13:44:47◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.36
13:46:10CACAM-1can we get some candy please? we just ran out. DCA17FA076p.36
13:46:11CAFA-1we just ran out *.p.37
13:46:13CACAM-1yeah right [sound of laughter]p.37
13:46:20FOCAM-2you want some trail mix. ***.p.37
13:47:02FOCAM-2did you see *** when we pulled up to the airport? did you look?p.37
13:47:07CACAM-1yeah I looked I couldn't see it.p.37
13:48:01CACAM-1huh look at this.p.37
13:48:04FOCAM-2what am I looking at?p.37
13:48:05CACAM-1a roof panel that came up?p.37
13:48:09FOCAM-2still there.p.37
13:48:10CACAM-1on the building.p.37
13:48:20FOCAM-2okay we're hearing them.p.37
13:48:38CACAM-1that's why I called them instead of. I didn't want to tie up Detroit approach because that's the same frequency for everyone going into Metro.p.37
13:48:45FOCAM-2that's fine. they don't sound very busy right now. DCA17FA076p.37
13:49:23◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.38
13:54:35FOHDL-2[non-flight related conversation].p.38
13:57:25FOCAM-2I tried that earlier * * the other ramp * worked.p.38
13:57:53CACAM-1maintenance said told me that you gotta have a signal going from NAV one one to the the autothrottles. it's like why would, why would that be connected?p.38
13:58:04FOCAM-2I don't know. that doesn't make sense. but if that's true. so.p.38
13:58:09CACAM-1that's why it didn't work.p.38
13:58:15CACAM-1they said they replaced the receiver on that thing.p.38
13:58:17FOCAM-2right.p.38
13:58:21CACAM-1did you see that fuel ticket * *?p.38
13:58:24FOCAM-2ah they never brought one on.p.38
13:58:26CACAM-1I had a little yellow one * * somewhere ***.p.38
13:58:36◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding]. DCA17FA076p.38
14:02:54OBFA-3we got two police officers that going to be flying with 'em.p.39
14:02:58CACAM-1fill out a form?p.39
14:02:58OBFA-3they don't have, they don't have their forms. I gotta get the forms. oh shoo.p.39
14:03:01FOCAM-2I'll get it.p.39
14:03:01CACAM-1I'll get 'em.p.39
14:03:06CACAM-1they're law enforcement officers?p.39
14:03:07OBFA-3yes.p.39
14:03:08CACAM-1okay.p.39
14:03:09OBFA-3and they're carrying weapons on them.p.39
14:03:11CACAM-1alright.p.39
14:03:14CACAM-1so which one is that one?p.39
14:03:16FOCAM-2P-H-M seven and eight.p.39
14:03:21CACAM-1I think we only need seven for * *. because I haven't seen it. all I've seen here are P-H-M fours. DCA17FA076p.39
14:03:25◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.40
14:03:29FOCAM-2is it the other one?p.40
14:03:38CACAM-1are they here on the airplane?p.40
14:03:40OBFA-3no they're still inside.p.40
14:03:45FOCAM-2it might be in that ah three ring binder, in the locked **. because I haven't seen it. all I've seen are P-H- M fours.p.40
14:03:58OBFA-3I'm gonna I probably have some in mine.p.40
14:04:01CACAM-1would you bring that ah, overhead, binder?p.40
14:04:04OBFA-3*.p.40
14:04:05FOCAM-2he needs the key, right, isn't the key over here?p.40
14:04:09◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding]. DCA17FA076p.40
14:04:33FOFA-2ladies and gentlemen welcome onboard Ameristar charter. please remember that all carry on articles must be stowed and properly secured under the seat in front of you or in an overhead compartment. please use caution when opening the overhead compartment, if you article do not fit properly or you need assistance in stowing **** can I have the attention of the passenger seated in an emergency exit row, please read the emergency * criterion on the safety information card in the seat packet in front of you review the information explaining the exit row requirements. if you are seated **** criterion or are unable to carry out the instructions feel free to let one of the flight attendants know so you can be reseated at this time. in compliance with federal regulations smoking is not permitted in this cabin. the smoking of e-cigarettes is not permitted in the aircraft. thank you for your attention.p.41
14:04:38FOCAM-2there's two ah breakers popped here.p.41
14:04:40CACAM-1what is it?p.41
14:04:42FOCAM-2forward water system, and, they're both water related. they, they can go in, right?p.41
14:04:50◦CAM[multiple unintelligible voices].p.41
14:05:37OBFA-3okay tell them I'm coming out.p.41
14:05:49CACAM-1that's all you need.p.41
14:05:51OBFA-3just this one? DCA17FA076p.41
14:05:53CACAM-1that for * passengers are not *.p.42
14:06:00◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.42
14:06:56CACAM-1[sound similar to phone ringtone] honey I gotta call you when I get to Washington, I'm very busy *****. [consistent with cell phone call].p.42
14:09:12◦CAM[sound similar to telephone ringtone].p.42
14:10:16◦CAM[unintelligible voices].p.42
14:10:21CAMCAM-?this is one of the police officers **.p.42
14:10:30FA-FA-?you guys have ahm paperwork for an armed ***?p.42
14:10:33FOCAM-2I gave it to @ already.p.42
14:10:34FA-FA-?oh okay I didn't know about that.p.42
14:10:35FOCAM-2yeah he's got it.p.42
14:10:37FA-FA-?okay.p.42
14:10:38◦CAM[sounds consistent with passengers boarding the aircraft].p.42
14:11:48◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding]. DCA17FA076p.42
14:13:54INTINT[sound similar to passenger call button].p.43
14:14:03FOFA-2@?p.43
14:14:05FA-FA-5@?p.43
14:14:05FA-FA-5yes?p.43
14:14:06FOFA-2can you ah bring a few sick bags up for me please?p.43
14:14:09FA-FA-5say that one more time.p.43
14:14:10FOFA-2can you bring up a few sick bags for me?p.43
14:14:13FA-FA-5sick bags?p.43
14:14:14FA-FA-5okay.p.43
14:14:15FOFA-2thank you.p.43
14:15:28◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.43
14:19:02FOCAM-2your phone rang while you were gone, so you got a missed call.p.43
14:19:11CACAM-1can't even fit bags.p.43
14:19:12FOCAM-2huh? DCA17FA076p.43
14:19:13CACAM-1it's * (forward) is packed.p.44
14:19:14FOCAM-2oh is it?p.44
14:19:35FOCAM-2so how did you do this R-C-A-M thing?p.44
14:19:39CACAM-1* * *.p.44
14:19:40CAMCAM-?*.p.44
14:19:41FOCAM-2because the power's out right so you couldn't -p.44
14:20:04CACAM-1(we) can erase A and B too.p.44
14:20:08FOCAM-2I didn't put anything in.p.44
14:20:10CACAM-1ah look here.p.44
14:20:40FOCAM-2well if they make it to Sunday they gotta pack for five days. four days I guess.p.44
14:21:06CAMCAM-?almost there.p.44
14:21:10◦CAM[multiple unintelligible background voices].p.44
14:22:22FOCAM-2do you know how * those numbers broke down?p.44
14:22:24CACAM-1ah you're probably gonna have to move some passengers, to the back. DCA17FA076p.44
14:22:28CACAM-1how many do we have one twelve?p.45
14:22:29FOCAM-2I didn't hear a count.p.45
14:22:33CACAM-1no count yet?p.45
14:22:35CAFA-1there's still people loading stuff. (we don't) everybody on board.p.45
14:22:36CACAM-1* * *.p.45
14:22:39CACAM-1what where's @ with the paperwork?p.45
14:22:41CAFA-1* (@) is outside, doing something.p.45
14:22:45◦CAM[unintelligible background voices and conversation consistent with passenger boarding].p.45
14:23:27CAMCAM-?hey @.p.45
14:23:31FOFA-2we got one, minus one, so one oh nine.p.45
14:23:38CACAM-1one ten with you?p.45
14:23:40FOFA-2yeah one ten with me.p.45
14:23:41◦CAM[unintelligible].p.45
14:23:41FOCAM-2* * * * paperwork. DCA17FA076p.45
14:24:15CACAM-1@.p.46
14:24:18CAFA-1what's up?p.46
14:24:19CACAM-1I cannot have more than thirty passengers in zone one.p.46
14:24:21CAFA-1in zone one?p.46
14:24:25CACAM-1that, that's all you gotta count.p.46
14:24:34CACAM-1we'll just do this, ah you ready?p.46
14:24:35CAFA-1yeah.p.46
14:24:37CACAM-1zone one twenty five at forty eight seventy five.p.46
14:24:44CAMCAM-?(okay).p.46
14:24:45CACAM-1zone two forty at seventy eight hundred.p.46
14:24:48CAMCAM-?okay.p.46
14:24:49CACAM-1zone three forty five at eighty * -p.46
14:24:52CAFA-1so we have thirty two in zone one but look eight of them are kids, like little tiny kids.p.46
14:24:58CACAM-1(we) show there's twenty five, forty, forty five. DCA17FA076p.46
14:25:00CAFA-1twenty five, forty, forty five.p.47
14:25:04FOCAM-2forty five at how much?p.47
14:25:05CACAM-1eighty seven seventy five.p.47
14:25:06FOCAM-2k.p.47
14:25:10CACAM-1uhmm.p.47
14:25:12FOCAM-2zero fuel weight?p.47
14:25:13CACAM-1zero fuel weight is one one four, four seven six.p.47
14:25:17◦CAM[unintelligible].p.47
14:25:24FOCAM-2taxi?p.47
14:25:25CACAM-1taxi weight ah one four five, four seven six.p.47
14:25:32CACAM-1takeoff weight one four five zero seven six.p.47
14:25:36FOCAM-2yup.p.47
14:25:37CACAM-1landing weight one three four, eight hundred. * * forward C-G three point seven. aft twenty two point one. wet eleven point seven.p.47
14:25:54CAMCAM-?*. DCA17FA076p.47
14:25:55CACAM-1stab trim is ah seven point zero. [sound similar to stabilizer trim aural movement sound].p.48
14:26:07FOCAM-2* * * for A B and C two *.p.48
14:26:10CACAM-1ah that's right ah. in ah section A show twenty bags at seven eighty six.p.48
14:26:21FOCAM-2okay.p.48
14:26:22CACAM-1and in C thirty or I mean ah.p.48
14:26:26FOCAM-2B?p.48
14:26:27CACAM-1yeah in B a twenty - let's show - yeah, thirty at eleven sixty.p.48
14:26:34CACAM-1and C- two is gonna be ah twenty at a thousand.p.48
14:26:39FOCAM-2okay.p.48
14:26:43CACAM-1you got everything?p.48
14:26:44FOCAM-2yes.p.48
14:26:45FOCAM-2here ya go.p.48
14:26:50FOCAM-2before start below the line.p.48
14:26:52CACAM-1yeah I gotta * * *. DCA17FA076p.48
14:26:53FOCAM-2alright.p.49
14:26:59CACAM-1* * *.p.49
14:27:03◦HOT[sound similar to passenger call chime].p.49
14:27:07CACAM-1they're still loading *.p.49
14:27:09FOCAM-2yeah.p.49
14:27:41◦CAM[occasional unintelligible background voices].p.49
14:28:23OBFA-3I gotta stand in here for a minute, I'm cold.p.49
14:28:27FOCAM-2I'm sorry?p.49
14:28:28OBFA-3I gotta stand in here for a second I'm freezing.p.49
14:28:30FOCAM-2It feels like the temperature is dropping.p.49
14:28:32OBFA-3I know.p.49
14:28:50◦CAM[occasional unintelligible background voices].p.49
14:30:11CACAM-1where ah * * where's the * sitting.p.49
14:30:20CAFA-1five, D?p.49
14:30:22CACAM-1both of them? DCA17FA076p.49
14:30:25CAFA-1* * *, I wasn't even aware of it until he came on.p.50
14:30:31FOCAM-2alright, below the line.p.50
14:30:32CACAM-1fuel pumps and crossfeed.p.50
14:30:33CAMCAM-?* * *.p.50
14:30:36FOCAM-2on and closed.p.50
14:30:37CACAM-1fuel pumps, quantity * * *, fuel quantity?p.50
14:30:40FOCAM-2ah required is sixteen three we have thirty thousand five hundred on board.p.50
14:30:44CACAM-1sixteen three * * * on board ah.p.50
14:30:44◦CAM[multiple unintelligible voices].p.50
14:30:47CACAM-1V- speeds?p.50
14:30:48FOCAM-2ah the one forty six thousand pound flaps fifteen, one thirty nine, one forty two, one fifty, one sixty five, one ninety nine, two forty eight set *.p.50
14:30:56CACAM-1one thirty nine, one forty two, one fifty * * * * stabilizer trim *.p.50
14:31:01FOCAM-2okay envelopes out? DCA17FA076p.50
14:31:03CACAM-1ah I e-mailed it in.p.51
14:31:05FOCAM-2seven point zero.p.51
14:31:06CACAM-1pull the - pull the chocks.p.51
14:31:07CAMCAM-?pull chocks.p.51
14:31:08FOCAM-2seven point zero checked and set.p.51
14:31:10CACAM-1seven point zero checked and set. * *?p.51
14:31:12FOCAM-2checked and set.p.51
14:31:14CAMCAM-?[unintelligible].p.51
14:31:21CACAM-1tower's still down?p.51
14:31:22FOCAM-2ah I checked about ten minutes ago and it was, yes. keep trying.p.51
14:31:32FA-FA-4ladies and gentlemen in preparation for our departure we do ask that all passengers be seated with their seatbelts fastened low and tight across their ** portable electronic devices * cell phones laptops be turned off and stowed at this time. we appreciate your cooperation thank you.p.51
14:31:41CARDO-1Willow Run tower Ameristar ninety three sixty three.p.51
14:31:55FOCAM-2ready for start please. DCA17FA076p.51
14:31:58CAHOT-1ready * start.p.52
14:32:01CAHOT-1documents.p.52
14:32:03FOCAM-2crossfeeds are open.p.52
14:32:04CAHOT-1documents.p.52
14:32:05FOCAM-2oh documents on board.p.52
14:32:06CAHOT-1cabin.p.52
14:32:07FOCAM-2ah secured.p.52
14:32:08CAHOT-1cockpit door.p.52
14:32:09FOCAM-2it'll be locked.p.52
14:32:10CAHOT-1pneumatic crossfeed.p.52
14:32:11FOCAM-2open.p.52
14:32:12CAHOT-1hydraulics.p.52
14:32:13FOCAM-2on high and checked.p.52
14:32:14CAHOT-1anti-collision lights.p.52
14:32:15FOCAM-2on. DCA17FA076p.52
14:32:16CAHOT-1annunciator door lights.p.53
14:32:17FOCAM-2checked and lights out.p.53
14:32:19CAMCAM-?* * * this thing.p.53
14:32:19CAHOT-1air conditioning supply switch.p.53
14:32:21FOCAM-2off.p.53
14:32:22CAHOT-1fuel pumps.p.53
14:32:23FOCAM-2uhm set.p.53
14:32:24CAHOT-1pitot windshield heat.p.53
14:32:25FOCAM-2captain on.p.53
14:32:26CAHOT-1ignition?p.53
14:32:27FOCAM-2is on.p.53
14:32:28CAHOT-1pneumatic pressure.p.53
14:32:28FOCAM-2check.p.53
14:32:29CAHOT-1alright ready for start check's complete.p.53
14:32:29FOCAM-2go ahead and start the right engine please. DCA17FA076p.53
14:32:44CAHOT-1start valve open. oil pressure.p.54
14:33:09FOCAM-2forty percent.p.54
14:33:14FOCAM-2starting left engine.p.54
14:33:21CACAM-1start valve open.p.54
14:33:31CACAM-1Michigan. [consistent with cell phone call].p.54
14:33:34CACAM-1oil pressure.p.54
14:33:38CACAM-1yes. [consistent with cell phone call].p.54
14:33:57FOCAM-2forty percent.p.54
14:33:58◦HOT[electronic sound consistent with transfer of electrical power].p.54
14:34:00CAMCAM-?got it?p.54
14:34:01CAHOT-1ah good day sir this is Ameristar ninety three sixty three, that's Alpha Juliet India nine three six three. ah we're on the ground in Detroit Willow Run ah Yankee India Papa and tower I guess they lost power out here so we need to try to get a clearance with you going to Dulles. [consistent with cell phone call]. DCA17FA076p.54
14:34:26CAHOT-1it's gonna be departing runway two three left and we'll be ready in five minutes. [consistent with cell phone call].p.55
14:34:32FOCAM-2after start.p.55
14:34:41CAHOT-1all right. appreciate it. [consistent with cell phone call].p.55
14:34:46CACAM-1after start. pneumatic crossfeeds?p.55
14:34:47FA-FA-4at this time we do ask that you give your undivided attention to the flight attendant nearest you while important safety information is review. please observe the no smoking signs and fasten seatbelt signs when they are illuminated. federal aviation regulations require passenger compliance with lighted passenger information sign and posted placards and all crewmember instructions. please take a moment to review the passenger information card located in the seat pocket in front of you. it illustrates the location of operat-p.55
14:34:47FOCAM-2closed.p.55
14:34:48CACAM-1transponder?p.55
14:34:49FOCAM-2* *.p.55
14:34:49FOCAM-2transponder one.p.55
14:34:50CACAM-1hydraulics? DCA17FA076p.55
14:34:51FOCAM-2on high and checked.p.56
14:34:52CACAM-1A-P-U air switch?p.56
14:34:53FOCAM-2is off.p.56
14:34:53CACAM-1engine anti-ice?p.56
14:34:54FOCAM-2is off.p.56
14:34:55FOCAM-2off.p.56
14:34:55CACAM-1ignition?p.56
14:34:56FOCAM-2off.p.56
14:34:56CACAM-1electrical system?p.56
14:34:57FOCAM-2checked.p.56
14:34:58CACAM-1* ignition (start) switches?p.56
14:35:00FOCAM-2auto.p.56
14:35:00CACAM-1* * *.p.56
14:35:01FOCAM-2on.p.56
14:35:02CACAM-1annunciators. DCA17FA076p.56
14:35:02FOCAM-2checked.p.57
14:35:03CACAM-1shoulder harnesses.p.57
14:35:04FOCAM-2on left.p.57
14:35:05CACAM-1on right. ground equipment?p.57
14:35:07FOCAM-2clear left.p.57
14:35:08CACAM-1after start checklist complete.p.57
14:35:09FOCAM-2start taxiing out.p.57
14:35:19CARDO-1Willow Run traffic Ameristar ninety three sixty three MD-eighty is taxiing from the ah east ramp out to runway ah two three left any inbound traffic and traffic in the pattern please advise Willow Run.p.57
14:35:35CAHOT-1easy on the tiller.p.57
14:35:36FOCAM-2*.p.57
14:35:37CAHOT-1yup. [consistent with cell phone call].p.57
14:35:41CAHOT-1okay. [consistent with cell phone call].p.57
14:35:46CAHOT-1yup. [consistent with cell phone call]. DCA17FA076p.57
14:35:48CAHOT-1eight one eight one. [consistent with cell phone call].p.58
14:35:51CAHOT-1okay. [consistent with cell phone call].p.58
14:35:52CAHOT-1thank you sir I appreciate it. [consistent with cell phone call].p.58
14:36:03FOCAM-2okay I'll taxi slow on the off chance.p.58
14:36:06CAHOT-1yeah * do the taxi check first and then we'll-p.58
14:36:08FOCAM-2slats extend flaps fifteen taxi checklist.p.58
14:36:11CAHOT-1no, no, no straight ahead.p.58
14:36:29CAHOT-1taxi checklist, flaps and slats.p.58
14:36:31FOCAM-2no this goes to two seven we're gonna use two-p.58
14:36:33CAHOT-1yes we gotta take two seven to two three.p.58
14:36:35FOCAM-2okay.p.58
14:36:36FOCAM-2umh, fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, takeoff and a blue light.p.58
14:36:41CAHOT-1fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, takeoff, blue light.p.58
14:36:44CAHOT-1ah V-speeds. DCA17FA076p.58
14:36:46FOCAM-2off the one forty six thousand pound card one thirty nine, one forty two, one fifty, recheck.p.59
14:36:51CAHOT-1one thirty nine, one forty two, one fifty recheck.p.59
14:36:55CAHOT-1stab trim.p.59
14:36:56FOCAM-2seven point zero, set.p.59
14:37:00CAHOT-1seven point zero units set, annunciators checked, I'll get the flight attendants here in a little bit.p.59
14:37:07CAHOT-1we'll just wait here. * you see the windsock, what's it better for?p.59
14:37:10FOCAM-2ah, I, I prefer two three *.p.59
14:37:14FOCAM-2it's variable.p.59
14:37:21FOCAM-2gonna hold short until you make the announcement.p.59
14:37:24CAHOT-1yes sir this is ah Ameristar ninety three sixty three we're on the ground here at Willow Run holding short of runway two three left ah ready to go like to get a clearance to Dulles. [consistent with cell phone call].p.59
14:37:37CAHOT-1it's ah alpha juliet india nine three six three, it's Amerista ninety three sixty three. [consistent with cell phone call]. DCA17FA076p.59
14:37:46CAHOT-1thanks. [consistent with cell phone call].p.60
14:37:58CAHOT-1I don't see anything in the system. [consistent with cell phone call].p.60
14:38:06CAHOT-1no flightplan stored that's just great, ah, okay I guess we need to ah call the company and have them refile then. [consistent with cell phone call].p.60
14:38:16CAHOT-1[sound similar to chuckle] * I ah. thank you bye-bye. [consistent with cell phone call].p.60
14:38:23FOCAM-2unbelievable.p.60
14:38:26CAHOT-1it's just one thing after another.p.60
14:38:27FOCAM-2oh yeah.p.60
14:38:32CAHOT-1you know what? it's probably faster just for me to file myself, right?p.60
14:39:10CAHOT-1briefer. [consistent with cell phone call].p.60
14:39:18CAHOT-1Michigan. [consistent with cell phone call].p.60
14:39:47CAHOT-1yes sir ah we'd like to file an I-F-R flightplan please. [consistent with cell phone call]. DCA17FA076p.60
14:39:52CAHOT-1ah it’s gonna be for alpha juliet India ah nine three six three that's Ameristar nine three six three, ah. no alpha juliet india nine three six three. it's an MD- eighty three slant let me see what we got * slant lima, ah, usually the company does this, so let me know what else you need. ah airspeed four five zero knots. ah it’s gonna be kilo yankee india papa. Detroit Willow run. ah at nineteen ah as soon as possible nineteen forty five Z. altitude will be flight level three one zero. the route of flight will be ah direct to Carlton charlie romeo lima, jet three four to Dryer that's delta juliet bravo, J-eighty five to hotel victor quebec and then it’s the Gibbz two arrival that's golf india bravo bravo zulu two into Dulles. destination Dulles kilo india alpha delta and alternate airport will be ah Baltimore kilo bravo whiskey india. time in route one hour and thirty - fifteen minutes. fifteen minutes. just tell 'em its a (flow) * *. [consistent with cell phone call].p.61
14:41:33FOCAM-2*.p.61
14:41:33CAHOT-1I'm sorry. fuel on board is a two hours and thirty minutes. ah first initial alpha. last name ah golf romeo uniform sierra echo uniform sierra. based at alpha delta sierra. and the phone ah one eight hundred three six eight five three eight seven. five three eight seven. ah total people on board is ah hundred ah fifteen. and ah red and blue on white. yeah it's november seven eight six tango whiskey. [consistent with cell phone call]. DCA17FA076p.61
14:41:37FOCAM-2ladies and gentlemen from the flight deck welcome aboard flight nine three six three service to Washington Dulles airport, flight time today one hour fifteen minutes, experiencing just a short delay here on the ground. power on the airports not working * * air traffic **********. [sound similar to flight attendant bell].p.62
14:42:53CAHOT-1that's it. [consistent with cell phone call].p.62
14:43:12CAHOT-1that's it. [consistent with cell phone call].p.62
14:43:20CAHOT-1naw we got, all that I appreciate the help. thank you sir. [consistent with cell phone call].p.62
14:43:25HOTHOT-?* * *.p.62
14:43:26CAHOT-1what a # cluster#.p.62
14:43:32CAHOT-1yup.p.62
14:43:41CAHOT-1@ said he had issues, filing it.p.62
14:44:01CAHOT-1yes sir ah this ah Ameristar ninety three sixty three ah on the ground here at Willow Run hopefully thep.62
14:44:01ATCATCclearance is in the system this time. not yet? okay, sounds good appreciate that. okay, I'll call back here in a few minutes. Alright, sounds good, thank you, bye. [consistent with cell phone call].p.62
14:44:37FOCAM-2let's run the taxi check while were waiting from the top please. DCA17FA076p.62
14:44:40CAHOT-1we did that. the taxi check.p.63
14:44:41FOCAM-2I don't think we completed it.p.63
14:44:43CAHOT-1yeah.p.63
14:44:45CAHOT-1ah taxi check ah flap, flaps and slats?p.63
14:44:45FOCAM-2yeah.p.63
14:44:47FOCAM-2I have fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, takeoff and a blue light.p.63
14:44:51CAHOT-1fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, takeoff blue light. flight controls elevator on.p.63
14:44:55FOCAM-2checked.p.63
14:44:55CAHOT-1checked A-P-U.p.63
14:44:57FOCAM-2off.p.63
14:44:58CAHOT-1and ah fuel heat?p.63
14:45:00FOCAM-2should be off.p.63
14:45:00CAHOT-1off. takeoff briefing? DCA17FA076p.63
14:45:02FOCAM-2ah left seat takeoff. assigned headings, probably three thousand feet. emergency return we'll just take it right over to Metro airport landing on one of the two one * *.p.64
14:45:16CAHOT-1before takeoff the line flaps and slats.p.64
14:45:18FOCAM-2are fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, takeoff and a blue light.p.64
14:45:21CAHOT-1fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, takeoff blue light. V-speeds?p.64
14:45:24FOCAM-2off the one forty six thousand pound card, one thirty nine, one forty two, one fifty recheck.p.64
14:45:29CAHOT-1one thirty nine, one forty two, one fifty, rechecked. stab trim?p.64
14:45:32FOCAM-2seven point zero set.p.64
14:45:35CAHOT-1seven point ah zero units set. annunciators checked. I'll get the flight attendants here.p.64
14:45:41FOCAM-2I told them to be seated for departure, I got the two dings so ah we're good to go.p.64
14:45:45CAHOT-1oh.p.64
14:46:00FOCAM-2wonder why more often than not we have trouble * *. DCA17FA076p.64
14:46:15FOCAM-2I should also add to my briefing we're gonna delay rotation because of the gusty winds.p.65
14:46:20CAHOT-1yeah I'll just call rotate.p.65
14:46:21FOCAM-2yup.p.65
14:46:41FOCAM-2I'll get those n- those phone number from you.p.65
14:46:44CAHOT-1huh?p.65
14:46:44FOCAM-2I'll get those phone number from you * later today. I don't know if I have those numbers, for my own use in the future.p.65
14:47:07CAHOT-1yeah sir it's Ameristar ninety three sixty three again any luck? ready to copy. [consistent with cell phone call].p.65
14:47:37CAHOT-1Ameristar ninety three sixty three cleared to Dulles via Akron five departure Akron direct ah hotel victor quebec as filed. three thousand three one oh in ten eighteen ninety five in seven two one four in the box hold for release. and yeah we're number one ready to go runway two three left. Two three left, yes sir. [consistent with cell phone call].p.65
14:48:14CAHOT-1yeah void if not off by fifty one and ah time now forty eight and a half. that's all we need appreciate the help. [consistent with cell phone call]. DCA17FA076p.65
14:48:24CAHOT-1heading three zero zero. hold that. [consistent with cell phone call].p.66
14:48:26CAHOT-1ah departure. thank you bye. [consistent with cell phone call].p.66
14:48:29CAHOT-1let me put that in real quick * Akron five. It's gonna be the one oh six out of thirteen four.p.66
14:48:33FOCAM-2what is it?p.66
14:48:36FOCAM-2alright.p.66
14:48:39FOCAM-2thank you.p.66
14:48:42CAHOT-1fix. V-lock.p.66
14:48:47FOCAM-2Akron five?p.66
14:48:49CAHOT-1yeah.p.66
14:49:25CAHOT-1there ya go. so heading three zero zero on departure.p.66
14:49:25FOCAM-2ready?p.66
14:49:27FOCAM-2alright.p.66
14:49:28FOCAM-2three hundred heading up to three thousand. ready? DCA17FA076p.66
14:49:30CAHOT-1yup.p.67
14:49:31FOCAM-2alright, let's announce our intentions.p.67
14:49:33CAHOT-1yup.p.67
14:49:35CARDO-1Willow Run traffic ah Ameristar ninety three sixty three is taking an active runway ah two three left for departure and ah it will be a right turn out ah north west departure any inboud traffic please advise Willow Run.p.67
14:50:01CARDO-1thank you sir appreciate it.p.67
14:50:02FOCAM-2before takeoff to the line.p.67
14:50:04CAHOT-1ah below the line.p.67
14:50:05FOCAM-2*.p.67
14:50:05CAHOT-1depart - ah departure runway two three left confirm ignition is on transponder T-A-R-A and landing lights are on runway alignment's set * * *.p.67
14:50:09FOCAM-2left confirmed. DCA17FA076p.67
14:50:19CAINT-1ladies and gentlemen from the flight deck ah we've been cleared for departure flight attendants please be seated.p.68
14:50:42CAHOT-1final's clear.p.68
14:50:45FOCAM-2clear left.p.68
14:50:47CAHOT-1clear right.p.68
14:51:06FOCAM-2alright, runway alignment is checked.p.68
14:51:08CAHOT-1checks.p.68
14:51:11FOCAM-2before takeoff is complete.p.68
14:51:12CAHOT-1go.p.68
14:51:18CAHOT-1looks like the wind is a little bit from the right.p.68
14:51:20FOCAM-2right.p.68
14:51:21FOCAM-2I'm gonna * some right crosswind *.p.68
14:51:27FOCAM-2autothrottles on please. set takeoff thrust. DCA17FA076p.68
14:51:35CAHOT-1takeoff thrust set N1's checked.p.69
14:51:38CAHOT-1airspeed alive.p.69
14:51:41CAHOT-1clamp.p.69
14:51:43CAHOT-1eighty knots.p.69
14:51:44FOCAM-2checked.p.69
14:51:55CAHOT-1V-one.p.69
14:52:01CAHOT-1rotate.p.69
14:52:04CAHOT-1V-two.p.69
14:52:05FOCAM-2hey what's goin' on?p.69
14:52:08FOCAM-2abort.p.69
14:52:09CAHOT-1no. not above - #.p.69
14:52:15CAHOT-1# don't abort above V-one like that.p.69
14:52:19CAHOT-1#.p.69
14:52:19FOCAM-2it wasn't flying. DCA17FA076p.69
14:52:22CAHOT-1#.p.70
14:52:23◦CAM[sounds consistent with departure from the prepared surface].p.70
14:52:27◦CAMspeed brake speed brake speed brake [electronic voice].p.70
14:52:27CAFA-1heads down, stay down, heads down, stay down, heads down, stay down.p.70
14:52:32◦CAMlanding gear landing gear [multiple repetitions electronic voice].p.70
14:52:37CAPA-1evacuate, evacuate, evacuate.p.70
14:52:41FOCAM-2it wasn't flying. it wasn't - I had it all the way back here it wasn't flying.p.70
14:52:46◦CAM[sounds consistent with emergency evacuation of the cabin].p.70
14:53:12FOCAM-2it was not rotating I had it all the way back here.p.70
14:53:29FOCAM-2#.p.70
14:53:47CAHOT-1evacuation checklist. 14:53:49 End of Recording 14:53:49 End of Transcript DCA17FA076p.70