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MCDONNELL DOUGLAS AIRCRAFT CO MD 88Delta Air Lines

648 lines · 09:00:47.4 – 11:02:53.5 · New York, NY, 2015-03-05

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Crew communication

648 lines readobservations a human-factors reviewer takes from a transcript — the sterile cockpit, the Board's own notations, rhythm, CRM markers. Not emotions, not scores: the affect is in the audio, and the audio is sealed
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non-pertinent talk in sterile window
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laughter · delivery · expletives
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crew questions unanswered in 8 s
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warnings with a crew response in 5 s
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Utterances per minute, one row per speaker on one clock. shaded = sterile-cockpit window · red = end of recording.
Sterile cockpit · 14 CFR 121.542

Window: 23:39:36–23:41:44 · basis: recorder pressure altitude below 10,000 ft. Candidate non-pertinent lines below are a first reading for the investigator, not a finding; “@” marks the Board's own non-pertinent-word notation.

No candidate non-pertinent conversation inside the window.

The Board’s own notations

Delivery and physiological notes the transcribers added in brackets, plus # expletives. 54 words are marked unintelligible (*).

  • #10:08:33.5“I hope people are re— reporting it yeah. cause that's typical Microsoft. it gets buggier the more you up— you download # on it you know.”
  • #10:13:37.8“he's hanging his— he's hanging his # out if he uses the max manual. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Source”
  • #10:14:05.3“and they say use max autobrake then transition then max manual braking. #.”
  • #10:14:19.8“I like this one. touchdown speed is v ref forty minus five. so unless you catch that one everyone's already bugging five. you know? now you gotta slow your # down man. this is— this is you got to slow down before you even touch down.”
  • #10:17:19.8“oh #. the rest of the story is we took off from Atlanta to LaGuardia and uh we ended up holding for forever. every”
  • #10:19:52.2“# you're no fun.”
  • sound similar to cockpit door closing10:21:13.3“[sound similar to cockpit door closing]”
  • sound similar to cockpit door closing10:24:21.4“[sound similar to cockpit door closing]”
  • #10:26:33.4“you gotta be # me.”
  • automated voice10:26:35.4“[sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert]”
  • automated voice10:26:39.9“[sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice]”
  • automated voice10:26:39.9“[sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice]”
  • automated voice10:26:39.9“[sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice]”
  • #10:26:56.8“come on you #.”
  • #10:27:25.5“nice heads up from the dispatcher. the #. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Source”
  • sound similar to sigh10:37:19.0“[sound similar to sigh]”
  • #10:53:04.4“you #.”
  • #10:56:16.4“yeah she's # crazy.”
  • automated voice11:01:02.6“one thousand. [automated voice]”
  • automated voice11:01:39.3“five hundred. [automated voice] DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Source”
  • automated voice11:02:08.7“one hundred. [automated voice]”
  • automated voice11:02:11.6“fifty. [automated voice]”
  • automated voice11:02:12.6“forty. [automated voice]”
  • automated voice11:02:13.2“thirty. [automated voice] DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Source”
  • +6 more
Silences of 45 s or more
Concerns voiced, and what followed

Hedged or questioning lines from one pilot in the critical window, with the other pilot’s next words.

None found in the window.

Warnings and the response
  • 10:26:15.8[sound similar to altitude alert]
    → 2.9 s later: 10:26:18.7“we got plenty of time.”
  • 10:26:35.4[sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 10:26:39.9[sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 10:42:12.0[sound similar to altitude alert]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 10:50:39.0[sound similar to altitude alert]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 10:53:38.4[sound similar to altitude alert]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 11:02:17.9[sound of beep] [CAWS configuration warning]
    → 0.6 s later: 11:02:18.5“spoilers up.”
  • 11:02:18.3[sound of beep] [CAWS configuration warning]
    → 0.2 s later: 11:02:18.5“spoilers up.”
  • 11:02:18.9speedbrakes.[automated voice. CAWS configuration warning]
    → 2 s later: 11:02:20.9“two in reverse.”
  • 11:02:33.1[sound of CAWS landing gear configuration warning horn lasts until end of recording]
    → no crew words within 5 s
Questions between the pilots left unanswered
  • 10:14:34.2“and— and you are going to ILS minimums. so how much runway do we actually have available?”
  • 10:21:28.4“but why?”
  • 10:22:49.1“wouldn't that be lovely?”
  • 10:28:57.9“said it seems like everybody else is sort of surprised by this. you know we knew the weather was— this is New York. I mean what do you think happens here?”
  • 10:31:16.9“okay we're going to two zero zero. it's IAS. it's descending. it's armed...uh our alternate is Albany. Albany right?”
  • 10:32:34.8“so that's nine thousand from over uh...there. the burn from Robbinsville to uh LaGuardia is what?”
  • 10:42:07.5“what?”
  • 10:46:30.8“uh of baro DA of uh two fourteen is crosschecked. landing data?”
  • 10:52:06.0“where is everybody?”
  • 10:56:17.9“can you hear me now?”
Standard callouts
MinimumsGear downV1 · not in transcriptRotate / Vr · not in transcriptV2 · not in transcriptPositive rate · not in transcriptGear up · not in transcript1,000 ft · not in transcript500 ft · not in transcriptRunway in sight · not in transcriptGo around · not in transcriptStabilized · not in transcript

“Not in transcript” never means “not said”: a line may be unintelligible, or the recording may not cover that phase.

Language, as counts
Speakerwordsquestionshedgesexclamationsexpletiveschecklistsnon-pertinent lines
Captain2,106281988034
First officer2,581271166033
Observer / jumpseat30911500012

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09:00:47.4STASTARTOF RECORDINGp.7
09:54:51.8STASTARTOF INITIAL APPROACH DISCUSSIONp.7
09:54:51.8FOHOT-2I doubt we’ll hear medium poor but we’re at our crosswind limitations for that one.p.7
09:54:57.5CAHOT-1I’m sorry?p.7
09:54:57.8FOHOT-2I doubt we will hear medium poor but we’re out of crosswind limitations on that one.p.7
09:55:02.7CAHOT-1okay.p.7
09:55:04.6CAHOT-1you got a field condition report see what it says if you don’t mind. thank you.p.7
09:55:09.8FOHOT-2I do not mind.p.7
09:55:37.5FOHOT-2oh I actually didn’t know this though. crosswind guidelines are not considered limitations. I did not— I was unaware of that.p.7
09:55:50.6CAHOT-1uh but we do have a contaminated runway limitation. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.7
09:55:54.4FOHOT-2yeah I may be looking at that pretty soon too.p.8
09:56:47.7FOHOT-2it reads just like ATIS. so no it doesn’t shed any light on it.p.8
09:56:53.4CAHOT-1**.p.8
09:57:29.7ATCZTLDelta ten eighty six contact Washington Center one one eight point niner two.p.8
09:57:33.7FORDO-2eighteen ninety two. Delta ten eighty six good day.p.8
09:57:40.6FORDO-2Washington Center hello Delta ten eighty six checkin’ on board three three zero.p.8
09:57:50.7CAHOT-1three three zero.p.8
09:58:56.1FOHOT-2two hundred pounds ahead at GLOVR.p.8
09:58:59.6CAHOT-1thanks.p.8
10:05:24.1STASTARTOF FULL TRANSCRIPT DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.8
10:05:24.1FOHOT-2is there such a thing as light freezing fog? and heavy freezing fog? or is it just—p.9
10:05:30.6CAHOT-1uh I don't think so.p.9
10:05:31.8FOHOT-2I mean there's— on this chart I'm just looking at a generic type four moderate and light. moderate to light intensity for freezing fog...ice crystals. it says freezing fog ice crystals. moderate to light.p.9
10:05:50.9FOHOT-2and I'm guessing it's saying snow without the minus we have to use moderate snow because the visibilities of...p.9
10:05:57.7CAHOT-1correct.p.9
10:05:58.5FOHOT-2...and quarter mile and such.p.9
10:05:59.0CAHOT-1well we have to use the visibility chart.p.9
10:06:02.2FOHOT-2uh I think this one kicks us out when it says below a certain thing you have to go with an approved source if I read that correctly.p.9
10:06:09.8CAHOT-1okay. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.9
10:06:10.5FOHOT-2and— again I can misread anything @ so by— by all means show me.p.10
10:06:31.7FORDO-2direct to Patuxent Delta ten eighty six.p.10
10:06:38.9CAHOT-1alright @ verified Patuxent.p.10
10:06:41.4FOHOT-2alright very well.p.10
10:06:50.7CAHOT-1nav captured. direct Patuxent.p.10
10:06:57.7CAHOT-1anti ice is comin on.p.10
10:07:04.6FOHOT-2very well good thanks.p.10
10:07:09.0FOHOT-2yeah right here it says snowfall intensity is a function of prevailing visibility. do not use uh this chart if visibility is being reduced by snow along with another— other forms of obscuration mist fog etcetera.p.10
10:07:22.5CAHOT-1yeah here's the chart right here. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.10
10:07:26.1CAHOT-1visibility is greater than * no. we may have to follow the * yes. no use the snowfall intensity designator approved by the ATIS or whatever.p.11
10:07:37.5FOHOT-2yeah it says it again here just in different uh a different way.p.11
10:07:47.5FOHOT-2very well.p.11
10:08:17.8FOHOT-2this is where I wouldn't mind tablets * when I want to look at the chart I want it to freeze up and reset on me automatically. that's— that's quality manufacture right there.p.11
10:08:27.5CAHOT-1that's what I'm saying. I think the reliability is going to hurt this thing.p.11
10:08:31.0FOHOT-2yeah.p.11
10:08:31.6CAHOT-1because it's gonna get poorer and poorer.p.11
10:08:33.5FOHOT-2I hope people are re— reporting it yeah. cause that's typical Microsoft. it gets buggier the more you up— you download # on it you know.p.11
10:08:41.8CAHOT-1yeah I think it was a huge mistake personally but—p.11
10:08:44.8FOHOT-2yes sir. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.11
10:08:45.1CAHOT-1you know all the arrival altitudes check— just like I said I put a hard altitude at DAVYS BRAND and two fifty at KORRY just for planning purposes...p.12
10:08:54.1FOHOT-2okay.p.12
10:08:54.5CAHOT-1...ten thousand all hard altitudes.p.12
10:09:39.2CAHOT-1there it is you know...okay well let's say they say the braking action's fair.p.12
10:09:50.9CAHOT-1let's just say that for—p.12
10:09:52.4FOHOT-2we're saying that.p.12
10:09:53.9CAHOT-1huh?p.12
10:09:54.5FOHOT-2yes let's say that.p.12
10:10:01.5FOHOT-2well I realize that I'm supposed to consult my...p.12
10:10:05.2CAHOT-1uh I was just looking at that.p.12
10:10:06.1FOHOT-2...my thing there. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.12
10:10:35.6FOHOT-2we're at flaps forty and we're gonna call it uh fair you said right?p.13
10:10:40.6CAHOT-1yeah.p.13
10:10:42.1FOHOT-2can we call that medium?p.13
10:10:44.5CAHOT-1yeah.p.13
10:10:45.3FOHOT-2I like it.p.13
10:10:51.3FOHOT-2we are gonna land three thousand pounds lighter...make the thirty card yup.p.13
10:11:05.1CAHOT-1we can't land.p.13
10:11:10.4CAHOT-1*.p.13
10:11:12.5FOHOT-2I'll— I'll try to justify one in a second because cause we had to divert because of this situationp.13
10:11:20.5CAHOT-1I don't think we can even land.p.13
10:11:22.4FOHOT-2I got uh...maximum autobraking of seventy eight hundred feet. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.13
10:11:43.8FOHOT-2think you may be right.p.14
10:11:55.0CAHOT-1I'll be off for just a minute.p.14
10:11:56.4FOHOT-2alrighty.p.14
10:11:56.9CAPA-1ladies and gentlemen from the flight deck just an update. we are level at thirty three thousand feet. we're about uh forty miles from Richmond Virginia. we are two hundred and ninety miles from LaGuardia Airport we anticipate right now touching down at uh ten fifty five and having you at the gate right on time at eleven oh clock. that's provided air traffic control allows us to maintain a uh current speed. we've increased the speed a little bit to try to make up some time. so for now we uh we anticipate an on time arrival in LaGuardia. LaGuardia weather reporting overcast skies uh snow. temperature's right at about uh thirty degrees...p.14
10:12:10.4FOHOT-2on max manual yeah seventy two.p.14
10:12:52.0CAHOT-1...or so.p.14
10:12:53.3FOHOT-2or so. **.p.14
10:12:55.4CAHOT-1if it's all crosswind like it says it is and if it stays like if it's they say it's anything less than good I— I don't think we're legal to land. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.14
10:13:06.1FOHOT-2I generally agree with you. I see seventy two hundred feet for max uh manual braking is what I got at a hundred thirty.p.15
10:13:13.2CAHOT-1when have you done max manual braking? when have you practiced it?p.15
10:13:18.3FORDO-2twenty six eighty seven Delta ten eighty six. good day.p.15
10:13:21.6CAHOT-1I will never use that column.p.15
10:13:22.9FOHOT-2la— last year. hah...in this situation.p.15
10:13:28.1FORDO-2Center hello Delta ten eighty six checking on board level three three zero.p.15
10:13:35.6FOHOT-2but as I told the captain like I'm setting max—p.15
10:13:37.8CAHOT-1he's hanging his— he's hanging his # out if he uses the max manual. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.15
10:13:41.7FOHOT-2well it— it worked out because we got it. we did— we did not land in this situation. we got— we got a good report is what we got cause we—p.16
10:13:48.0CAHOT-1it's a useless column because we— we don't even practice that in the simulator.p.16
10:13:50.9FOHOT-2yeah. no I know.p.16
10:13:53.0CAHOT-1I mean you can say— I mean it— it describes it in the book.p.16
10:13:57.3FOHOT-2yeah.p.16
10:13:58.3CAHOT-1but I've been on— I been a captain on this for fifteen years and I've never done it. now I've used max autobrake.p.16
10:14:04.8FOHOT-2yeah.p.16
10:14:05.3CAHOT-1and they say use max autobrake then transition then max manual braking. #.p.16
10:14:11.6FOHOT-2yeah.p.16
10:14:12.6CAHOT-1you're never using that column. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.16
10:14:14.7FOHOT-2no I— I tend to agree with you.p.17
10:14:19.8FOHOT-2I like this one. touchdown speed is v ref forty minus five. so unless you catch that one everyone's already bugging five. you know? now you gotta slow your # down man. this is— this is you got to slow down before you even touch down.p.17
10:14:34.2CAHOT-1and— and you are going to ILS minimums. so how much runway do we actually have available?p.17
10:14:43.0FOHOT-2six. right right. here— here's what makes you legal by the way. sea level pressure what do you see? is that two hundred seven feet? or is that—p.17
10:14:52.2CAHOT-1you know what? I already took that. I already took that but it doesn't make me legal.p.17
10:14:56.1FOHOT-2it takes you to six point nine. six point nine.p.17
10:15:00.3CAHOT-1now wait a minute wait a minute. where'd you get six point nine?p.17
10:15:02.1FOHOT-2you have a hundred and three— you have two hundred and three— no you have a hundred and three feet to spare. what's your problem? [sound of laughter] DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.17
10:15:07.2CAHOT-1no I've got one thirty max autobrake. I never use the max manual.p.18
10:15:12.2FOHOT-2well yeah but your saying you don't use max— okay well fine fine fine yeah yeah.p.18
10:15:14.3CAHOT-1no. seven point eight minus four hundred right?p.18
10:15:16.4FOHOT-2yeah yeah yeah. yeah yeah yeah.p.18
10:15:17.7CAHOT-1or three hundred...p.18
10:15:17.8FOHOT-2uh minus— minus three hundred yeah.p.18
10:15:18.8CAHOT-1...three hundred. and seven thousand five hundred and I don't even have that in usable runway without flying an ILS.p.18
10:15:29.6FOHOT-2yeah. that's true. no you don't.p.18
10:15:35.6CAHOT-1so I'm here to tell you right now if it's less than good we're not landing.p.18
10:15:39.0FOHOT-2we're going— roger that. I don't blame you one little bit. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.18
10:15:44.7FOHOT-2I don't— I don't know. yeah. well it's based on optimism. we got to be an optimist. that's why they dispatched us. but still.p.19
10:15:55.5FOHOT-2uh and— where's—p.19
10:15:56.8CAHOT-1I'm gonna text him right now.p.19
10:15:58.4FOHOT-2yeah. get the braking action.p.19
10:15:58.6CAHOT-1we need the braking action report.p.19
10:16:00.9FOHOT-2yeah.p.19
10:16:06.4FOHOT-2but max autobrake sixty one hundred feet if it's good so we're you know—p.19
10:16:11.0CAHOT-1only if it's in effect. if it's good we're there.p.19
10:16:13.8FOHOT-2and then we can only subtract two hundred feet on that one for pressure altitude. **.p.19
10:17:18.2CAHOT-1they put so much gas on this thing, DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.19
10:17:19.8FOHOT-2oh #. the rest of the story is we took off from Atlanta to LaGuardia and uh we ended up holding for forever. everyp.20
10:17:19.8RJRJthat landed reported uh braking action fair. that's it. that's what they reported. uh we're holding with US Air or United a— a three twenty or something like that and another um eighty eight was with us and um and we— we actually come on a side radio and we all say the same thing 'hey do you guys see the same thing we're seeing?' and they're 'yup. can't land. roger that.' that's what I found. the Airbus has similar limitations that we do so we all divert. we all get gas. we go to divert to Albany. we pick up a # of gas. we come back to LaGuardia. we hold again. hold for— hold for like another hour and a half or something like that. finally an Airbus— different guy— an Airbus decides to make a go for it and uh he lands he reports the braking action good. so we go in right behind him. we land. it was my leg. I flew. it was absolutely a non-event but— but he was the only person that reported good. you know it— it took him to say hey it's good. they were— they were over reporting. and he was right. you know it was fine. there was nothing wrong with— but oh yeah...oh yeah.p.20
10:18:50.3CAHOT-1no braking action advisory report available. reporting aircraft departing runway four. who the hell cares about *.p.20
10:18:58.6FOHOT-2right. that's dispatch or is that ATIS? ATIS right? yeah ATIS is saying that.p.20
10:19:02.1CAHOT-1that's from ATIS.p.20
10:19:04.6FOHOT-2even though the uh field conditions say the same thing **. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.20
10:19:37.2CAHOT-1gonna go back and use the uh lav.p.21
10:19:40.7FOHOT-2potty. alright.p.21
10:19:41.8CAHOT-1you need to go back?p.21
10:19:43.3FOHOT-2no. send that cutie from one b up with that— flight attendants are kind of you know...you know.p.21
10:19:50.4CAHOT-1no I'm not gonna tell her.p.21
10:19:52.2FOHOT-2# you're no fun.p.21
10:19:55.5FOHOT-2gonna tell her about max manual braking.p.21
10:19:57.4OBINT-3@ one left.p.21
10:19:58.9CAINT-1@ this is @ I need to come back and take a break whenever you can set it up.p.21
10:20:02.0OBINT-3okay it should be alright in just a minute. let me call you back.p.21
10:20:04.5CAINT-1thanks. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.21
10:20:07.7CAHOT-1[discussion regarding cockpit access]p.22
10:20:09.9FOHOT-2very well.p.22
10:20:11.7CAHOT-1you have the aircraft.p.22
10:20:12.8FOHOT-2I have the aircraft.p.22
10:20:13.8CAHOT-1if you change your mind let me know.p.22
10:20:15.4FOHOT-2I will.p.22
10:20:31.6◦CAM[sound similar to flight attendant call chime]p.22
10:20:35.6CAINT-1hello this is @.p.22
10:20:36.8OBINT-3[discussion regarding cockpit access]p.22
10:20:38.9CAINT-1okay.p.22
10:20:39.2OBINT-3alright.p.22
10:20:40.7CAHOT-1[discussion regarding cockpit access] DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.22
10:20:41.9FOHOT-2alrighty.p.23
10:20:46.0◦HOT[sound of oxygen mask momentary operation]p.23
10:20:53.7CAHOT-1need anything from kitchen?p.23
10:20:55.7FOHOT-2oh hell no. the way they're cooking?p.23
10:20:57.9CAHOT-1no I mean drink ice.p.23
10:20:59.3FOHOT-2yeah I'm good. I'm good. thanks.p.23
10:21:01.7CAHOT-1I'm putting your hat down here on top of mine **.p.23
10:21:04.2FOHOT-2okay.p.23
10:21:06.1CACAM-1I'll close the door.p.23
10:21:13.3◦CAM[sound similar to cockpit door closing]p.23
10:21:14.8FOHOT-2hellooo.p.23
10:21:17.9OBCAM-3we're actually going to LaGuardia? you said I could give you that look. we're actually going? DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.23
10:21:22.5FOHOT-2you said— you said you could give me that— who said you could give me that look?p.24
10:21:24.4OBCAM-3I said I keep giving you the look.p.24
10:21:26.3FOHOT-2I know you keep giving me the look.p.24
10:21:27.1OBCAM-3what the hell?p.24
10:21:28.4FOHOT-2but why?p.24
10:21:29.6OBCAM-3what the hell?p.24
10:21:30.5FOHOT-2what are you eating? that looks good.p.24
10:21:31.9OBCAM-3I don't know. it was in the little snack basket. you want one?p.24
10:21:34.4FOHOT-2no but you should eat it. it looks good.p.24
10:21:36.3◦CAM[conversation unintelligible due to radio chatter]p.24
10:21:45.0FORDO-2cross RIDGY flight level two seven zero. Delta ten eighty six.p.25
10:21:48.6FOHOT-2uh yeah that's a little loud.p.25
10:21:55.3OBCAM-3I was gonna * for a little while.p.25
10:21:56.9FOHOT-2yeah yeah okay what do you think? alright.p.25
10:21:57.9OBCAM-3**. it's pretty good * cranberry.p.25
10:22:04.8OBCAM-3that's pretty decent. right?p.25
10:22:08.3FOHOT-2like I love shortbread. **. I don't know. tastes good.p.25
10:22:15.5OBCAM-3**. so are we gonna get stuck in LaGuardia?p.25
10:22:18.4FOHOT-2oh hell yeah.p.25
10:22:20.0OBCAM-3no seriously?p.25
10:22:21.0FOHOT-2I don't know. you know—p.25
10:22:22.4OBCAM-3you're supposed to know everything. you're the pilot. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.25
10:22:23.6FOHOT-2well...hold on.p.26
10:22:26.8OBCAM-3or is it getting warmer? I feel like it's getting warmer.p.26
10:22:29.2FOHOT-2you would be incorrect my dear.p.26
10:22:30.9OBCAM-3I thought it would. I thought you said it was thirty. thirty two— no thirty four.p.26
10:22:38.1FOHOT-2thirty. minus one now. no it's minus three. it's colder. twenty seven.p.26
10:22:43.6OBCAM-3I don't want to stay in New York though.p.26
10:22:46.3FOHOT-2but you might be stuck with us. and look how lucky you'd be.p.26
10:22:48.1OBCAM-3that would be so much fun.p.26
10:22:49.1FOHOT-2wouldn't that be lovely?p.26
10:22:50.0OBCAM-3it would.p.26
10:22:50.8FOHOT-2who was I telling— I wasn't telling you was I? my uh buddy got stuck in LaGuardia during one of those last snows. forty hours at the Crowne Plaza. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.26
10:22:58.5OBCAM-3nuh-uh. **. they would have us at the Roosevelt *.p.27
10:23:03.6FOHOT-2that would never happen.p.27
10:23:04.7OBCAM-3**.p.27
10:23:06.5FOHOT-2I like the Roosevelt. it's okay. it's not a four star.p.27
10:23:09.5OBCAM-3**.p.27
10:23:11.3FOHOT-2we don't talk about that. we don't talk about that.p.27
10:23:14.5FOINT-2this is @.p.27
10:23:15.3INTINT-4it's @ in the back. would you mind cooling it off back here? it's really warm.p.27
10:23:20.8FOINT-2cool it off back there. you got it.p.27
10:23:22.0INTINT-5hello?p.27
10:23:23.0FOINT-2yup it's cooling down.p.27
10:23:24.5INTINT-4okay. can't hear a word you just said. I hope you heard me. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.27
10:23:27.7INTINT-5hello?p.28
10:23:29.0FOINT-2yes I did. *.p.28
10:23:30.9INTINT-4okay thanks.p.28
10:23:32.8OBCAM-3she’s having a flash because it’s not. ***.p.28
10:23:41.3FOHOT-2not— not what else is looking **.p.28
10:23:46.5OBCAM-3[sound of laughter]p.28
10:23:47.9FOHOT-2I’m not so confident of you. [sound of laughter]p.28
10:23:49.8◦CAM[sound of intercom chime]p.28
10:23:50.4OBCAM-3oh are they ready?p.28
10:23:51.4FOINT-2hi this is @.p.28
10:23:53.0CAINT-1this is @. *.p.29
10:23:54.3FOINT-2okay.p.29
10:23:55.6OBCAM-3you have to potty?p.29
10:23:59.8FORDO-2alright. Chance of holding. Two hundred fifty knots at RIDGY. We’ll do that. Delta ten eighty six.p.29
10:24:03.9FOHOT-2I’m good thank you.p.29
10:24:04.7OBCAM-3okay.p.29
10:24:05.3CACAM-1***.p.29
10:24:06.7OBCAM-3no no no. your fine.p.29
10:24:08.2OBCAM-3**.p.29
10:24:09.9FOHOT-2I’m good. I won’t be coming out.p.29
10:24:11.2OBCAM-3okay.p.29
10:24:15.8CACAM-1**. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.29
10:24:17.8CACAM-1huh?p.30
10:24:18.3OBCAM-3**.p.30
10:24:21.4◦CAM[sound similar to cockpit door closing]p.30
10:24:21.9◦HOT[sound similar to momentary oxygen mask operation]p.30
10:24:23.0FOHOT-2so I don’t know if you called at the same time the dingbat from the back called or not but uh. Apparently you were stepping on each other and then ATC is naturally calling at the same time. We are um heading downhill because they—p.30
10:24:39.4CAHOT-1RIDGY at two seven oh. I see it.p.30
10:24:40.9FORDO-2twenty five forty five. Uh Delta ten eighty six roger we’re descending now.p.30
10:24:46.3FOHOT-2yeah it all happened at once there.p.30
10:24:49.6FORDO-2Center hello Delta ten eighty six checkin’ on board we’re descending out of three three zero for two seven zero and two hundred fifty knots at RIDGY. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.30
10:24:56.1FOHOT-2stand by for holding.p.31
10:25:08.4FOHOT-2you ready to copy?p.31
10:25:08.9CAHOT-1yeah.p.31
10:25:09.7FORDO-2ready to copy Delta ten eighty six.p.31
10:25:24.8FORDO-2alright uh we’ll hold at Robbinsville southwest as published at two seven zero. EFC of fifteen fifty five and we’d like to uh reduce speed now if that’s okay. Delta ten eighty six.p.31
10:25:34.7CAHOT-1the clearance limit’s Robbinsville.p.31
10:25:36.9FOHOT-2you can split it whenever you want. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.31
10:25:38.4CAHOT-1and they wanted RIDGY at two fifty also?p.32
10:25:41.8FOHOT-2two hundred fifty knots at RIDGY uh see dih dih if you want— you got that available.p.32
10:25:47.6CAHOT-1you got those. Thanks.p.32
10:25:48.4FOHOT-2yup they’re on.p.32
10:25:54.5CAHOT-1I would have told him unable two fifty at RIDGY.p.32
10:25:56.9FOHOT-2I just— he was just giving it to me left and right so I didn’t have a chance to even look.p.32
10:26:11.9FOHOT-2oh I’m sorry. do you mind if I program this in? I’m sorry I didn’t realize **.p.32
10:26:14.0CAHOT-1no I don’t want you to put ‘em in. we got— we got— uhh.p.32
10:26:15.8◦CAM[sound similar to altitude alert]p.32
10:26:18.7CAHOT-1we got plenty of time.p.32
10:26:22.1FOHOT-2alright you’re captured. It’s gonna be a hard one. two seven zero. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.32
10:26:24.7CAHOT-1it better capture.p.33
10:26:27.0FOHOT-2yup it’s gonna capture alright.p.33
10:26:33.4CAHOT-1you gotta be # me.p.33
10:26:35.4◦HOT[sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert]p.33
10:26:37.6◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.33
10:26:39.9◦HOT[sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice] [sound similar to altitude alert] altitude. [automated voice]p.33
10:26:56.1◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.33
10:26:56.8CAHOT-1come on you #.p.33
10:27:01.5◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.33
10:27:08.1◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.33
10:27:25.5CAHOT-1nice heads up from the dispatcher. the #. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.33
10:27:27.9FOHOT-2yeah.p.34
10:27:38.8CAHOT-1I don't know. what's the— what's the braking action?p.34
10:27:41.0FORDO-2say again for Delta ten eighty six.p.34
10:27:46.5FORDO-2uh depends on braking action for delta ten eighty six. do you have reports for us?p.34
10:28:00.9FOHOT-2yeah sure.p.34
10:28:03.8CAHOT-1yeah if you give us— DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.34
10:28:04.7FORDO-2yeah we can certainly do the ILS to one three for Delta ten eighty six unless you know something we don't know but we need uh braking action reports. we're trying to get them from dispatch as well.p.35
10:28:15.8FOHOT-2does she know something—p.35
10:28:20.0FORDO-2descend to flight level two zero zero Delta ten eighty six and uh holding instructions remain the same?p.35
10:28:34.1FORDO-2I understand. descending to level two zero zero. Delta ten eighty six.p.35
10:28:37.4CAHOT-1you know that's un— unexcusable. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.35
10:28:48.4FOHOT-2it does— does it not seem to you like everybody's been caught off guard? besides the fact we all knew this was gonna happen.p.36
10:28:56.6CAHOT-1say again?p.36
10:28:57.9FOHOT-2said it seems like everybody else is sort of surprised by this. you know we knew the weather was— this is New York. I mean what do you think happens here?p.36
10:29:28.4FOHOT-2one thirty clean speed two thirty four. we're good on speed. two fifty. okay.p.36
10:29:41.4CAHOT-1max hold's two ten at Robbinsville. right turns. I don't see any DME published.p.36
10:29:52.6FOHOT-2* timing *.p.36
10:29:57.4CAHOT-1well we'll ask for— we'll ask for legs.p.36
10:30:03.0◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion] DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.36
10:30:09.0FOHOT-2she ain't gonna care.p.37
10:30:15.5CAHOT-1zero six eight inbound. right turns at Robbinsville. two ten max hold between six and fourteen othwerwise we can hold at two fifty. so for now we're okay.p.37
10:30:33.6CAHOT-1what did he say?p.37
10:30:35.5FOHOT-2he's got to go. he can't hold.p.37
10:30:37.6CAHOT-1no no no no no. I'm talking about the dispatcher.p.37
10:30:38.3FOHOT-2who? this guy?p.37
10:30:45.9CAHOT-1special...quarter mile...braking advisories in effect. now what did he say?p.37
10:30:59.1CAHOT-1uplink message...I'll pass the braking action along as soon as I get one.p.37
10:31:08.0CAHOT-1alright. why didn't you advise us of this earlier? I— I— I don't even want to— I don't even want to talk to him.p.37
10:31:14.2FOHOT-2don't **. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.37
10:31:15.3CAHOT-1they're useless.p.38
10:31:16.3FOHOT-2they're useless.p.38
10:31:16.9CAHOT-1okay we're going to two zero zero. it's IAS. it's descending. it's armed...uh our alternate is Albany. Albany right?p.38
10:31:26.1FOHOT-2and Syracuse yes. both Albany and Syracuse. that's correct.p.38
10:31:28.9CAHOT-1ummm...p.38
10:31:50.3CAHOT-1I need to see what the burn is to Albany when you get a chance. when you can tell me.p.38
10:31:54.7FOHOT-2sure I will tell you right here boss.p.38
10:32:06.7FOHOT-2alright to Albany—p.38
10:32:15.7FOHOT-2seventeen thousand. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.38
10:32:18.0FORDO-2descend to seven thousand. thirty thirteen on the meter. Delta ten eighty six.p.39
10:32:21.7CAHOT-1one seven thousand. descending—p.39
10:32:25.0FORDO-2one seven thousand feet for Delta ten eighty six. correct.p.39
10:32:29.5FOHOT-2oops. alright. Albany? you're gonna burn four thousand pounds.p.39
10:32:34.8CAHOT-1so that's nine thousand from over uh...there. the burn from Robbinsville to uh LaGuardia is what?p.39
10:32:58.3FOHOT-2eighteen five to get us there. so that's two zero zero. so basically two thousand pounds.p.39
10:33:10.2CAHOT-1gonna be eleven...to land with five...check my math.p.39
10:33:17.6FOHOT-2yeah.p.39
10:33:24.1CAHOT-1descent checklist. just the altimeter for now.p.39
10:33:28.6FOHOT-2sure. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.39
10:33:31.7FOHOT-2altimeters?p.40
10:33:32.9CAHOT-1three zero one three. is crosschecked.p.40
10:33:35.3FOHOT-2thirty thirteen is crosschecked.p.40
10:33:46.2FOHOT-2alright. going to Albany four thousand pounds.p.40
10:33:56.8FOHOT-2eighty five...ten five. and you say eleven? what did you— what did you say?p.40
10:34:01.0CAHOT-1wha— what?p.40
10:34:02.9FOHOT-2what was your number?p.40
10:34:03.8CAHOT-1well you gave me uh four thousand pounds to burn.p.40
10:34:08.6FOHOT-2to get to Albany?p.40
10:34:10.2CAHOT-1and land with five.p.40
10:34:10.2FOHOT-2yup.p.40
10:34:11.8CAHOT-1plus two from Robbinsville gives us eleven. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.40
10:34:11.9FOHOT-2land with five.p.41
10:34:13.8FOHOT-2sure. eleven thousand. I like eleven.p.41
10:34:16.2CAHOT-1okay?p.41
10:34:17.7CAHOT-1and Albany is uh ten miles few broken. uh good weather in Albany. that's fine.p.41
10:34:17.8FOHOT-2call bingo.p.41
10:34:31.4FORDO-2okay cross BRAND at eleven thousand. Delta ten eighty six. and uh—p.41
10:34:35.2FOHOT-2do you want ten mile legs?p.41
10:34:36.6CAHOT-1yeah ask for ten m—p.41
10:34:36.9FORDO-2requesting ten mile legs on the hold for Delta ten eighty six.p.41
10:34:42.6CAHOT-1alright.p.42
10:34:43.3FORDO-2as published. ten eighty six.p.42
10:34:46.3FOHOT-2seventeen thousand eleven thousand. cross BRAND at eleven thousand feet.p.42
10:34:50.2CAHOT-1yeah uh we got it.p.42
10:34:52.2FOHOT-2yeah...alright.p.42
10:34:54.9CAHOT-1eleven thousand. if we need to— I'll put drag out. whatever we did. the hold's in there. right turns. hold as published. we'll have to slow to two ten at Robbinsville as well.p.42
10:35:26.8FOHOT-2why is she asking me if we can do ILS to one three? runway end identifier lights are out of service.p.42
10:35:33.1CAHOT-1so...p.42
10:35:40.6FOHOT-2edge markings are obscured.p.42
10:35:57.9HOTHOT-?#. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.42
10:36:59.9CAHOT-1BRAND at eleven. two ten for the hold. that's all gonna be in there.p.43
10:37:05.5FOHOT-2yes sir.p.43
10:37:06.8CAHOT-1EFC was...p.43
10:37:09.3FOHOT-2fifteen fifty five.p.43
10:37:19.0CAHOT-1[sound similar to sigh]p.43
10:37:30.4CAHOT-1alright we got uh icing here.p.43
10:37:34.6FOHOT-2okay.p.43
10:37:44.4FOHOT-2got a flow light.p.43
10:37:45.0CAHOT-1what clean up?p.43
10:37:47.2FOHOT-2flow light in to uh. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.43
10:37:49.3CAHOT-1what's that?p.44
10:37:50.1FOHOT-2got a flow light.p.44
10:37:50.9CAHOT-1alright. yeah. we'll take care of that in a minute here.p.44
10:37:55.7CAHOT-1let's go slats extend.p.44
10:37:57.0FOHOT-2here we go. speed checks. here come slats.p.44
10:38:18.9OBINT-3@ one left.p.44
10:38:19.7CAINT-1@ no this is not initial. this is holding. I just uh. we're holding.p.44
10:38:26.3OBINT-3oh okay. alright are you going to make that announcement or do you want me to?p.44
10:38:29.1CAINT-1yeah when we get to— no I'll make the announcement. but it's— it's gonna be a while. they're— they're— they're screwing around up here. I'll make the announcement.p.44
10:38:37.9OBINT-3okay alright. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.44
10:39:28.1CAHOT-1RVR of twenty four hundred. flight director or autopilot orp.45
10:39:28.1HUDHUDdih dih. yeah you see— twenty four hundred RVR. unless the RVR is—p.45
10:39:40.4FOHOT-2did you hear a report from her yet? I have not.p.45
10:39:41.8CAHOT-1no. she's— she's—p.45
10:39:43.1FOHOT-2promised to get back to everybody but she hasn't.p.45
10:39:44.1CAHOT-1she's— she's just dorkin' it up. they're useless. dispatcher's useless. he should have gave us a head's up they were holding.p.45
10:39:54.1FOHOT-2hold on. that's ten eighty two.p.45
10:40:15.6FOHOT-2six thousand.p.46
10:40:40.7FOHOT-2okay. that's all that. currently charlie eighteen is our gate.p.46
10:40:50.9CAHOT-1okay.p.46
10:40:52.4FOHOT-2we keep it that'd be nice.p.46
10:41:24.6FORDO-2descend to ten thousand. Delta ten eighty six.p.46
10:41:26.7FOHOT-2okay slow down for your hold as well.p.46
10:41:27.9CAHOT-1yup.p.46
10:41:31.5CAHOT-1ten thousand DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.46
10:41:32.3FOHOT-2ten thousand. altitude's armed.p.47
10:42:07.5CAHOT-1what?p.47
10:42:12.0◦CAM[sound similar to altitude alert]p.47
10:42:17.1FORDO-2alright we are cleared to LaGuardia via the KORRY three arrival. descend to ten thousand. Delta ten eighty six.p.47
10:42:21.7FOHOT-2it's turning on you.p.47
10:42:23.0CAHOT-1yeah.p.47
10:42:26.1FORDO-2twenty seven three. Delta ten eighty six good day. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.47
10:42:33.6FORDO-2New York Delta ten eighty six checkin' on board ten thousand five hundred for ten thousand via the KORRY three. we have papa.p.48
10:42:39.3NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six New York Approach. altimeter's three zero one three. descend and maintain seven thousand.p.48
10:42:43.9FORDO-2thirty thirteen descend to seven thousand. Delta ten eighty six.p.48
10:42:47.3CAHOT-1seven thousand.p.48
10:42:47.5FOHOT-2seven thousand. altitude's armed. vert speed.p.48
10:42:49.8CAHOT-1it's descending and armed.p.48
10:42:51.5FOHOT-2*.p.48
10:42:53.7FOHOT-2alright you want to go through the approach checklist?p.48
10:42:55.7CAHOT-1no.p.48
10:42:56.3FOHOT-2er descent checklist I mean.p.48
10:42:57.3CAHOT-1uh not yet. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.48
10:43:06.2CAPA-1ladies and gentlemen they were gonna put us in holding and they just took us out of holding so we're uh back direct to LaGuardia. should be touching down in about twenty minutes or so. flight attendants uh please prepare the cabin uh for arrival. gate charlie eighteen will be our arrival gate. charlie eighteen.p.49
10:43:40.1CAHOT-1nine for seven. it's armed. we're tracking. let's see. uh ILS one three. eleven dash two. fifteen August twenty eighteen. one oh eight five. one thirty four's the course. it's uh two hundred fourteen feet is the baro. uh we have twenty four hundred RVR's required. braking action of good or better is required. it's a MALSR with a PAPI on the left that's not coincident. we know about the runway avail— we talked about that. missed approach. climb to eight hundred. climbing left turn two thousand outbound LaGuardia zero four three to GREKO. that's in the box we'll be able to nav it up. min safe over the city three thousand. over the water twenty one hundred. flaps forty. maximum autobrake. right turnoff. probably at the end...whiskey or zulu...and uh charlie eighteen's the gate. it's over in here. okay.p.49
10:44:59.7FOHOT-2yup.p.49
10:45:00.6CAHOT-1and uh...green pages...three one one three. don't see anything for one three...KORRY...one three autoland procedure not authorized...we're not gonna do an autoland.p.49
10:45:25.7FOHOT-2no. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.49
10:45:26.3CAHOT-1okay. D ninety...I don't see anything else. okay let's finish the descent checklist.p.50
10:45:32.6FOHOT-2alright alt—p.50
10:45:33.0CAHOT-1oh two thirty four...one eighty seven...one fifty eight...one forty five. flaps forty.p.50
10:45:38.2◦CAM[sound similar to seatbelt sign]p.50
10:45:38.4NYCNYCDelta fifteen twenty six we just received poor braking action. uh going to be a change of plans. fly heading zero eight zero join LaGuardia two— stand by.p.50
10:45:46.8CAHOT-1alright we can't land with poor. we know that. we saw this coming. man.p.50
10:45:51.3FOHOT-2yeah that's what I'm saying. they caught everybody by surprise.p.50
10:45:51.8CAHOT-1and th— this is the dispatch— this is the dispatcher's fault.p.50
10:45:54.8FOHOT-2that's—p.50
10:45:55.6CAHOT-1it is. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.50
10:45:56.0FOHOT-2for s— I mean ATC and everything.p.51
10:45:56.6NYCNYCEnvoy thirty six forty seven. turn left heading three two zero. would you be able to take poor braking action?p.51
10:45:56.7CAHOT-1alright. so anyway. if we can do this that's fine.p.51
10:46:01.7FOHOT-2nope.p.51
10:46:02.4CAHOT-1nobody. I don't think anybody—p.51
10:46:06.1CAHOT-1when you get a chance tell her we cannot. rest of the descent check.p.51
10:46:08.8NYCNYCthree two zero.p.51
10:46:09.2FOHOT-2oh yeah. exactly. altimeters?p.51
10:46:09.9CAHOT-1we have one thirty two. and bug one thirty seven.p.51
10:46:13.1CAHOT-1uh three zero one three is crosschecked.p.52
10:46:16.3FOHOT-2thirty thirteen is crosschecked. minimums?p.52
10:46:18.3NYCNYCzero three zero at one three.p.52
10:46:20.2CAHOT-1uh...what'd I say. baro for now two fourteen is crosschecked.p.52
10:46:23.5NYCNYCDelta fifteen twenty six can you take braking action poor?p.52
10:46:27.3NYCNYCokay fly heading zero eight zero. join LaGuardia two two four radial. direct to PROUD and hold at PROUD as published.p.52
10:46:30.8FOHOT-2uh of baro DA of uh two fourteen is crosschecked. landing data?p.52
10:46:41.3NYCNYCokay Delta fifteen twenty six. and uh maintain five thousand. just fly heading zero four zero for now.p.53
10:46:46.3FOHOT-2landing data?p.53
10:46:48.0CAHOT-1flaps forty. v ref one thirty two crosschecked.p.53
10:46:50.6FOHOT-2flaps forty. ref one thirty two is crosschecked. approach briefing complete. seatbelt sign on. engine synch's off. pressurization panel set. hydraulic panel set. descent checklist complete.p.53
10:47:02.1CAHOT-1I'll set up to hold at PROUD for now. let's see...p.53
10:47:02.4NYCNYCthirty six forty seven. Airbus that uh just rolled out reported braking action good.p.53
10:47:07.7FOHOT-2alright *.p.53
10:47:09.0NYCNYCDelta fifteen twenty six did you copy? DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.53
10:47:17.6NYCNYCDelta fifteen twenty six thank you. continue left turn to zero two zero.p.54
10:47:22.0CAHOT-1we're out of the icing but we'll leave this on. okay?p.54
10:47:25.0FOHOT-2okay.p.54
10:47:26.4CAHOT-1approach checklist.p.54
10:47:28.3FOHOT-2alrighty sir this is—p.54
10:47:29.3CAHOT-1descent checklist is complete right?p.54
10:47:30.2FOHOT-2yeah this has been on the whole time.p.54
10:47:31.2CAHOT-1uh doesn't matter because we're— we're out of it now. so we're finep.54
10:47:33.5FOHOT-2yeah. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.54
10:47:33.6NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six descend and maintain four thousand. fly heading zero two zero.p.55
10:47:37.5FORDO-2descend to four thousand. heading zero two zero. Delta ten eighty six.p.55
10:47:40.8FOHOT-2four thousand. altitude is armed.p.55
10:47:43.0CAHOT-1four thousand descending and armed.p.55
10:47:43.4FOHOT-2heading zero two zero.p.55
10:47:47.1FOHOT-2flight and nav instruments?p.55
10:47:52.5CAHOT-1verified.p.55
10:47:53.4FOHOT-2verified. spoilers retracted disarmed. cabin notification?p.55
10:47:57.6CAHOT-1is complete.p.55
10:47:59.0FOHOT-2altimeters?p.55
10:48:01.5CAHOT-1thirty thirteen is last I got. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.55
10:48:04.7FOHOT-2thirty thirteen crosschecked.p.56
10:48:05.3CAHOT-1crosschecked.p.56
10:48:07.1FOHOT-2approach checklist complete. your speed's creeping up on you if you care.p.56
10:48:09.7CAHOT-1thank you.p.56
10:48:33.2CAHOT-1let's see if we were go— let me just check one thing here. Albany we would land with thirteen.p.56
10:48:44.6FOHOT-2two hundred and forty knots.p.56
10:48:45.4NYCNYCDelta twenty five twenty two. affirmative. last aircraft to land an Airbus reported braking action good.p.56
10:48:46.5CAHOT-1oops. thank you.p.56
10:50:07.2NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six maintain two ten or greater.p.56
10:50:10.3FORDO-2maintain two ten or greater. Delta ten eighty six. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.56
10:50:39.0◦CAM[sound similar to altitude alert]p.57
10:51:27.2◦HOT[sound similar to IGDI Morse code identifier]p.57
10:51:34.0◦HOT[sound similar to IGDI Morse code identifier]p.57
10:51:42.1◦HOT[sound similar to IGDI Morse code identifier]p.57
10:51:50.9◦HOT[sound similar to IGDI Morse code identifier]p.57
10:51:53.9NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six turn right heading zero four zero.p.57
10:51:58.5CAHOT-1right heading zero four—p.57
10:51:59.0FORDO-2right heading zero four zero. Delta ten eighty six.p.57
10:52:01.4FOHOT-2good ID both sides.p.57
10:52:06.0CAHOT-1where is everybody?p.57
10:52:31.9CAHOT-1I think she's gonna take us—p.57
10:52:32.9FOHOT-2yeah she's— yeah. yes sir. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.57
10:52:41.4CAHOT-1put twenty seven five in here.p.58
10:52:46.1CAHOT-1two thirty two...one eighty five...one fifty seven...one thirty one— one forty four rather.p.58
10:52:50.8NYCNYCattention all aircraft. information quebec is now current. advise quebec.p.58
10:52:56.3CAHOT-1thirty one five thirty sixp.58
10:53:03.1FOHOT-2roger. briefed crosschecked.p.58
10:53:04.4CAHOT-1you #.p.58
10:53:07.6CAHOT-1I'm gonna have to call and talk— and have a heart to heart with our dispatcher.p.58
10:53:15.0CAHOT-1if it's not closed then why were we holding?p.58
10:53:16.9NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six descend and maintain three thousand.p.58
10:53:17.5FOHOT-2yeah.p.58
10:53:17.7CAHOT-1they were clearing it. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.58
10:53:20.2FORDO-2descend to three thousand Delta ten eighty six.p.59
10:53:21.9CAHOT-1three thousand.p.59
10:53:22.9FOHOT-2three thousand. altitude's armed. vert speed.p.59
10:53:24.9CAHOT-1it's uh...descending and armed.p.59
10:53:38.4◦CAM[sound similar to altitude alert]p.59
10:54:02.6◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.59
10:54:12.4FOHOT-2we have quebec.p.59
10:54:24.2CAHOT-1three zero one two.p.59
10:54:25.1FOHOT-2thirty twelve on the meter.p.59
10:54:26.4CAHOT-1is crosschecked.p.59
10:54:27.3FOHOT-2crosschecked.p.59
10:54:37.3NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six turn left heading three four zero. reduce speed to one eight zero. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.59
10:54:41.4FORDO-2left turn three four zero. slow to a hundred eighty knots. Delta ten eighty six. we have quebec.p.60
10:54:45.3NYCNYCthank you.p.60
10:54:48.7CAHOT-1flaps eleven.p.60
10:54:50.0FOHOT-2flaps to eleven.p.60
10:55:33.9CAHOT-1wonder who reported braking action good? that's another concern of mine.p.60
10:55:37.4FOHOT-2it was United. he said United did.p.60
10:55:41.7CAHOT-1what kind of airplane was he?p.60
10:55:46.6NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six turn left heading two niner zero.p.60
10:55:49.4FORDO-2left two nine zero. Delta ten eighty six.p.60
10:56:06.0◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.60
10:56:08.1OBINT-3@ one left. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.60
10:56:09.2CAINT-1hey @ it's @ @ make one more swing through the galley and make sure everything is secured.p.61
10:56:14.8OBINT-3I'm sorry I can barely hear you.p.61
10:56:16.4FOHOT-2yeah she's # crazy.p.61
10:56:17.9CAINT-1can you hear me now?p.61
10:56:19.0OBINT-3yeah.p.61
10:56:19.4CAINT-1make one more swing through the galley and make sure everything's really battened down. we're gonna be using max autobrakes cause of the snow.p.61
10:56:25.0OBINT-3okay well we're all strapped down. I mean we've already done our walkthrough.p.61
10:56:28.3CAINT-1okay.p.61
10:56:28.8OBINT-3cleaned up everything. we're already in our seats.p.61
10:56:29.1CAINT-1so long as you're okay. yeah that's fine.p.61
10:56:31.4NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six turn left heading two five zero. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.61
10:56:31.6OBINT-3okay.p.62
10:56:32.0CAINT-1it'll be a little— it'll be a while before we land but that's fine.p.62
10:56:34.3FORDO-2left turn two five zero. Delta ten eighty six.p.62
10:56:35.4CAINT-1okay.p.62
10:56:37.3FOHOT-2two fifty on the heading.p.62
10:56:38.1CAHOT-1two fifty.p.62
10:56:48.6CAHOT-1quit your whining @.p.62
10:56:52.9FOHOT-2yeah she's not the sharpest tool.p.62
10:56:55.4CAHOT-1what's that?p.62
10:56:56.0FOHOT-2she's not the sharpest one in the shed.p.62
10:57:10.3◦HOT[sound similar to IGDI Morse code identifier]p.62
10:57:21.6FOHOT-2it's gonna be awesome when you hear the— the coffee pots come flying out. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.62
10:57:30.8NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six turn left heading two two zero.p.63
10:57:33.7FORDO-2left turn two two zero. Delta ten eighty six.p.63
10:57:36.1CAHOT-1let's go flaps fifteen.p.63
10:57:37.2FOHOT-2fifteen.p.63
10:57:38.3NYCNYCattention all aircraft. regional jet reported braking action good.p.63
10:57:41.6CAHOT-1regional.p.63
10:57:41.9FOHOT-2RJ good.p.63
10:57:47.3NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six turn left heading one eight zero.p.63
10:57:49.8FORDO-2left one eight zero. Delta ten eighty six.p.63
10:58:18.5NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six turn left heading one six zero. join the localizer.p.63
10:58:22.6FORDO-2left turn one eight zero. join the localizer. Delta ten eighty six. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.63
10:58:25.8CAHOT-1localizer's armed.p.64
10:58:26.0FOHOT-2approaching inbound course.p.64
10:58:41.3NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six over PAYMI cleared ILS runway one three approach.p.64
10:58:44.3FOHOT-2locs—p.64
10:58:45.1FORDO-2cleared ILS runway one three approach. Delta ten eighty six.p.64
10:58:48.3FOHOT-2loc is alive and locs captured.p.64
10:58:50.5CAHOT-1we'll intercept it at three thousand here.p.64
10:58:53.3FOHOT-2sure. glideslope's alive as well.p.64
10:58:54.5CAHOT-1let's see...go with a one thirty...p.64
10:59:05.4FOHOT-2glideslope's captured.p.64
10:59:06.7CAHOT-1thank you. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.64
10:59:09.4CAHOT-1let's go gear down.p.65
10:59:11.0FOHOT-2gear is comin' down.p.65
10:59:12.3NYCNYCDelta ten eighty six tower one one eight seven. RVR is greater than six thousand. rollout four thousand. have a good day.p.65
10:59:12.3◦CAM[sound similar to landing gear deployment]p.65
10:59:17.5FORDO-2switch to tower Delta ten eighty six. good day.p.65
10:59:24.1◦CAM[sound of click]p.65
10:59:24.4FORDO-2tower Delta ten eighty six joining you ILS runway one three.p.65
10:59:30.1CAHOT-1flaps forty. landing checklist.p.65
10:59:31.6FOHOT-2speed checks good.p.65
10:59:32.3◦CAM[sound similar to flap handle movement] DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.65
10:59:34.0LGALGAand Delta ten eighty six LaGuardia Tower. uh winds zero three zero at niner. runway one three cleared to land. braking action reported good by an Airbus and then a regional jet. there will be a departure on runway four prior to your arrival. runway one three RVR touchdown greater than six thousand. rollout three thousand five hundred.p.66
10:59:38.2◦CAM[sound of four clicks]p.66
10:59:43.9◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.66
10:59:51.7FORDO-2copy all. cleared to land on runway one three. Delta ten eighty six.p.66
10:59:54.4CAHOT-1alright ask him one more time for a wind check. I'm showing a pretty good tailwind here. eleven knots.p.66
11:00:02.3CAHOT-1when you get a chance.p.66
11:00:02.9FOHOT-2yeah uh do you mind if we wrap landing checklist?p.66
11:00:05.0CAHOT-1for landing. got it. go ahead.p.66
11:00:05.1◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.66
11:00:06.6FOHOT-2landing gear? DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.66
11:00:07.5CAHOT-1down three green. pressures and quantities are normal.p.67
11:00:08.2FOHOT-2down...three green. flaps slats?p.67
11:00:11.4CAHOT-1I've got forty forty. land.p.67
11:00:12.6◦CAM[sound of click]p.67
11:00:13.6FOHOT-2forty forty land. spoilers?p.67
11:00:15.3CAHOT-1spoilers are armed.p.67
11:00:16.2FOHOT-2armed. ignitions off. autobrakes are armed. maximum. uh annunciator panel is checked. landing checklist complete.p.67
11:00:28.6FOHOT-2alright.p.67
11:00:31.2FORDO-2wind check.p.67
11:00:32.2LGALGAwind zero two zero at one zero.p.67
11:00:33.9FOHOT-2zero two zero at one zero.p.67
11:00:36.3CAHOT-1geez. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.67
11:00:38.7CAHOT-1yeah.p.68
11:00:40.9CAHOT-1okay.p.68
11:00:41.2FOHOT-2we're all counting on you. alright.p.68
11:00:45.1CAHOT-1gear. flaps forty. spoilers. maximum autobrakes and armed.p.68
11:00:45.1FOHOT-2dim dim dim dim. tail deice is on.p.68
11:00:50.0CAHOT-1thanks.p.68
11:00:50.9◦CAM[sound of click]p.68
11:01:02.6◦CAMone thousand. [automated voice]p.68
11:01:04.3FOHOT-2cleared to land. missed approach altitude is set.p.68
11:01:06.6CAHOT-1thanks.p.68
11:01:11.1◦CAM[sound similar to stab trim in motion]p.68
11:01:39.3◦CAMfive hundred. [automated voice] DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.68
11:01:39.8CAHOT-1gear. flaps forty. spoilers. maximum brakes.p.69
11:01:41.2FOHOT-2very well.p.69
11:01:51.4CAHOT-1approach lights are in sight.p.69
11:01:53.0FOHOT-2very good.p.69
11:01:53.5CAHOT-1we're gonna continue.p.69
11:01:58.8CAHOT-1runway's in sight.p.69
11:01:59.3FOHOT-2approaching minimums. roger.p.69
11:02:01.5CAHOT-1everything's off. runway is in sight.p.69
11:02:08.7◦CAMone hundred. [automated voice]p.69
11:02:11.6◦CAMfifty. [automated voice]p.69
11:02:12.6◦CAMforty. [automated voice]p.69
11:02:13.2◦CAMthirty. [automated voice] DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.69
11:02:13.8◦CAMtwenty. [automated voice]p.70
11:02:15.0◦CAMten. [automated voice]p.70
11:02:15.9◦CAM[sound similar to main gear touchdown]p.70
11:02:17.9CAWCAWS[sound of beep] [CAWS configuration warning]p.70
11:02:17.9◦CAM[sound of click followed by mechanical noise]p.70
11:02:18.3CAWCAWS[sound of beep] [CAWS configuration warning]p.70
11:02:18.5FOHOT-2spoilers up.p.70
11:02:18.9CAWCAWSspeedbrakes.[automated voice. CAWS configuration warning]p.70
11:02:19.4◦CAM[sound similar to nose gear touchdown]p.70
11:02:20.9FOHOT-2two in reverse.p.70
11:02:22.2FOHOT-2one ten.p.70
11:02:23.7FOHOT-2out of reverse. DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.70
11:02:24.5FOHOT-2come out of reverse.p.71
11:02:25.2FOHOT-2come out of reverse. [louder]p.71
11:02:27.2CAHOT-1#.p.71
11:02:27.5FOHOT-2#.p.71
11:02:27.8◦CAM[rumbling noise increases]p.71
11:02:28.6CAHOT-1#.p.71
11:02:29.1◦CAM[sound of rumbling]p.71
11:02:32.0◦CAM[sounds of increased rumbling noise lasts 19.4 seconds]p.71
11:02:33.1CAWCAWS[sound of CAWS landing gear configuration warning horn lasts until end of recording]p.71
11:02:40.4CAMCAM-?(idle or out of) reverse. (idle or out of) reverse.p.71
11:02:43.2◦CAM[sound of louder scraping lasting 8.3 seconds]p.71
11:02:45.1LGALGADelta ten eighty six? DCA15FA085 Time and Time and Source Sourcep.71
11:02:47.6CAMCAM-?#.p.72
11:02:48.0CAMCAM-?#.p.72
11:02:49.4CAMCAM-?#.p.72
11:02:51.6◦CAM[sound of scraping noise ends]p.72
11:02:51.8LGALGADelta ten eighty six?p.72
11:02:53.5CAMCAM-?#.p.72