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BOEING 737-7Q8SOUTHWEST AIRLINES CO

721 lines · 11:39:17.3 – 13:43:55.9 · Chicago, IL, 2011-04-26

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  • 13:41:54.6CAM-1no no no.
  • 13:41:56.2CAM-1guys like I said tell her don't talk to anybody until.
  • 13:42:04.9CAM[sound of two chimes, similar to flight attendant call button]
  • 13:42:11.0CAM[sound of two chimes, similar to ACARS alert]
  • 13:42:11.2HOT-7@
  • 13:42:12.7HOT-8yeah.
  • 13:42:13.5HOT-7hey which door do you want to use here...they’re asking me...it's this door right...the door I have open...[sigh] oh my God...our aft--our aft entry door...not the one where we use the provisioner...he's comin' up right now with the stairs.
  • 13:42:57.1CAM-1hey @ @ @ captain on nineteen nineteen. hey thanks. yep we're in the mud. everybody's okay. no injuries. engines have been shut down. uh fire trucks are here. we're trying to get some airstairs that won't sink in the mud. but everything--...yes---...we're doin'---we're doin'---we're doin' it right now.
  • 13:43:23.7CAM-1everybody's fine. no injuries. aircraft is approximately um ten to fifteen feet off of the left end. we did not go into the frangible cement. we steered it into the grass. we're a good hundred feet from the fence line. everybody is here with no injuries....yeah...yep...oh yeah. DCA11IA047
  • 13:43:55.9CAM-1no...no no no...the aircraft was...we were landing right at max weight. had wind gusts a storm had just passed through the area. guy in front of us had just called wet fair. ah when we hit the brakes we weren't gettin' anything it was just...it just kept goin'. we both got on the brakes as hard as we could and ah and weren't seeing any deceleration. and we finally got it [end of recording]

Crew communication

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Utterances per minute, one row per speaker on one clock. shaded = sterile-cockpit window · red = end of recording.
Sterile cockpit · 14 CFR 121.542

Windows: 11:00:00–11:07:46, 12:48:55–13:33:51 · basis: recorder pressure altitude below 10,000 ft. Candidate non-pertinent lines below are a first reading for the investigator, not a finding; “@” marks the Board's own non-pertinent-word notation.

  • 12:49:05.0“this is why I like flying on the west coast.”
  • 12:49:11.9“hold doesn't look like they're holding that long...but if you...very good...Milwaukee.”
  • 12:50:17.7“we'll be going a lot sooner than that.”
  • 12:50:20.0“[laughter] he said if you want. I don't want that either.”
  • 12:51:51.8“busy little guy.”
  • 12:55:34.1“* turn on him we can get him.”
  • 12:55:50.6“well I guess I'll get the latest greatest.”
  • 13:02:46.8“yeh I could hit him with a rock now I think.”
  • 13:04:21.3“you gave him our tail man. he's gonna get us now.”
  • 13:04:28.7“yeh he's flyin' slow because we ah we went right by him.”
  • 13:07:21.5“yeh I guess we're gonna make our E-F-C man.”
  • 13:07:45.5“the dilemma. you'll make enough for lunch but you won't have time to eat it.”
  • 13:07:55.2“haah in the mean time this stuff grows.”
  • 13:08:10.1“what kind of word do you want. any word. ahh slow.”
  • 13:08:50.3“I was too I didn't think it would take this long but.”
  • 13:09:06.1“I know I think Indy is the closest right now but.”
  • 13:09:12.5“there's probably more diversions coming from the east than there are from the west ***.”
  • 13:11:11.6“wonder if they'd get mad if you declared O'Hare as your alternate. [laughter]”
  • 13:12:03.5“they'll give us JOLIET after we come out of it.”
  • 13:12:08.5“they gotta squirt him out ahead of us.”
  • 13:16:24.0“do you want to go left or right?”
  • 13:17:17.9“ah just gonna skim this just a little bit * know past this overhang here.”
  • 13:20:12.1“he's just really like throwin' curve balls at us.”
  • 13:21:20.6“alright sir I got if you want to follow along on the box here real quick.”
  • 13:22:48.6“you can do it up there too right?”
  • 13:22:52.6“old school man. old school.”
  • 13:22:59.7“you know that works but you're still wondering about it.”
  • 13:23:46.8“[other aircraft was telling controller they could not find the RNP Y”
  • 13:27:15.4“well I was trying to figure out if that's real or it's buildings.”
  • 13:27:24.3“so I'll join ya' in a little bit.”
  • 13:28:11.9“[laughter] [referring to other aircraft] he's trying to figure out can we do that.”
  • 13:29:13.8“it's the positive control there the little green arc went out. that's that's my indication.”
  • 13:30:02.6“what's that yeh we're in V-nav path.”
  • 13:31:40.3“uh oh yah I hold on a second is that right?”
  • 13:32:13.2“I knew there was somethin' wrong with that.”
The Board’s own notations

Delivery and physiological notes the transcribers added in brackets, plus # expletives. 56 words are marked unintelligible (*).

  • sound of single chime, similar to seat belt sign12:38:26.7“[sound of single chime, similar to seat belt sign]”
  • #13:10:05.7“temperature is droppin again. #.”
  • exhale13:29:42.5“[exhale]”
  • #13:29:54.6“#.”
  • #13:30:20.1“# look at that rain fall right---”
  • exhale13:33:11.1“[straining] I got no brakes man [exhale].”
  • #13:33:18.8“#”
  • #13:33:24.1“#”
  • #13:33:36.9“#”
  • #13:33:40.4“#”
  • #13:33:53.1“#”
  • remote unintelligable voice13:34:10.3“[remote unintelligable voice]”
  • low volume voice13:34:38.9“[low volume voice] captain”
  • sound of sirens increasing in volume13:35:00.1“[sound of sirens increasing in volume]”
  • distant voice asks how many people on board13:38:04.5“[distant voice asks how many people on board] DCA11IA047”
  • #13:39:22.7“ah #...flight controls..what is it.”
  • unintelligible voices from cabin13:40:51.0“[unintelligible voices from cabin]”
  • sigh13:42:13.5“hey which door do you want to use here...they’re asking me...it's this door right...the door I have open...[sigh] oh my God...our aft--our aft entry door...not the one where we use the provisioner...he's comin' up right now with the stairs.”
Silences of 45 s or more
Concerns voiced, and what followed

Hedged or questioning lines from one pilot in the critical window, with the other pilot’s next words.

Warnings and the response
  • 12:44:18.9[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]
    → 0.9 s later: 12:44:19.8“yeh alright.”
  • 12:48:41.1[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]
    → 4.3 s later: 12:48:45.4“we're not on final descent but that's alright.”
  • 12:55:44.3[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]
    → 0.7 s later: 12:55:45.0“nine eight.”
  • 12:58:42.5[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 13:17:10.9[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]
    → 1 s later: 13:17:11.9“and six point eight for six thousand *.”
  • 13:23:35.6[sound of low tone, similar to altitude alert]
    → no crew words within 5 s
  • 13:31:47.1[sound of three warning horns, similar to autopilot disconnect warning]
    → 2.5 s later: 13:31:49.6“minimums.”
Questions between the pilots left unanswered
  • 12:35:18.6“okay. one thirty five is the inbound course. two thousand across HITOB...the L-nav...okay we got a decision altitude down here right?”
  • 12:35:41.6“and...funky kind of lighting there we'll make sure we have tens on our...scales. make sure we got to zero after we are established and cleared. and anything else sir?”
  • 13:37:42.4“yeah. we have no oth-- no oth-- no other indications. we still have it on A-P-U power. you want us to shut that off?”
Standard callouts
MinimumsGear downV1 · not in transcriptRotate / Vr · not in transcriptV2 · not in transcriptPositive rate · not in transcriptGear up · not in transcript1,000 ft · not in transcript500 ft · not in transcriptRunway in sight · not in transcriptGo around · not in transcriptStabilized · not in transcript

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Language, as counts
Speakerwordsquestionshedgesexclamationsexpletiveschecklistsnon-pertinent lines
Captain1,85919977021
First officer2,170221722039
Observer / jumpseat83011001

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11:39:17.3STASTARTOF RECORDINGp.8
12:31:40.0STASTARTOF TRANSCRIPT CTR-A Southwest nineteen nineteen cross Bradford at and maintain one five thousand. the Moline altimeter two niner tree fife.p.8
12:31:47.3FORDO-2cross Bradford at one five thousand ah Southwest nineteen nineteen...and how long do you expect in holding?p.8
12:31:51.1CAHOT-1ask him how long.p.8
12:31:57.5CAHOT-1Bradford at fifteen.p.8
12:31:58.8FOHOT-2yeh.p.8
12:32:03.6FOHOT-2he doesn't know.p.8
12:32:07.6FOHOT-2great expectations.p.8
12:32:23.2CAHOT-1as published.p.8
12:32:26.6FOHOT-2ah.p.8
12:32:27.8CAHOT-1at MOTIF maybe.p.8
12:32:29.4FOHOT-2yeh. that is what he said MOTIF. DCA11IA047p.8
12:32:37.1FOHOT-2yeh MOTIF does have a published.p.9
12:33:04.5FOHOT-2okay.p.9
12:33:04.9FOHOT-2okay.p.9
12:33:06.9CAHOT-1that's information we can use.p.9
12:33:09.1FOHOT-2yeh.p.9
12:33:10.7FOHOT-2so we won't be holdin' long.p.9
12:33:15.9CAHOT-1what's up with that.p.9
12:33:20.8FOHOT-2nor do we wan't to hold long because we are shaving time for the company.p.9
12:33:24.2CAHOT-1[laughter]p.9
12:33:38.8CAHOT-1R-nav G-P-S. R-nav R-N-P. DCA11IA047p.9
12:33:46.3CAHOT-1the R-N-P to three one...is he--p.10
12:33:49.6FOHOT-2one three he said three one but he meant one three because they always say it wrong.p.10
12:33:54.0CAHOT-1yeh.p.10
12:33:59.5FOHOT-2got G-P-S.p.10
12:34:03.8FOHOT-2it's twelve four.p.10
12:34:06.1CAHOT-1yep.p.10
12:34:10.4FOHOT-2oh the boys in the training center are gonna be like falling over themselves on this.p.10
12:34:17.9FOHOT-2right.p.10
12:34:18.0CAHOT-1[laughter] absolutely.p.10
12:34:23.1FOHOT-2see two hundred million dollars is paying off.p.10
12:34:26.1CAHOT-1it's paying off. ten forty.p.10
12:34:31.1CAHOT-1four twenty nine. okay. alright. DCA11IA047p.10
12:34:47.6CAHOT-1R-nav G-P-S zulu. yankee zulu. yah.p.11
12:34:55.0FOHOT-2si.p.11
12:34:56.1CAHOT-1si.p.11
12:34:57.1CAHOT-1okay.p.11
12:34:59.7FOHOT-2do you want the transition off DUPAGE or no?p.11
12:35:03.4CAHOT-1ah ***.p.11
12:35:05.9FOHOT-2doesn't need it.p.11
12:35:07.0CAHOT-1yeh.p.11
12:35:11.0CAHOT-1HEBKU.p.11
12:35:18.6CAHOT-1okay. one thirty five is the inbound course. two thousand across HITOB...the L-nav...okay we got a decision altitude down here right?p.11
12:35:28.9FOHOT-2yes.p.11
12:35:28.9CAHOT-1ten forty.p.11
12:35:29.9FOHOT-2i agree. DCA11IA047p.11
12:35:30.6CAHOT-1okay.p.12
12:35:31.8CAHOT-1and touch down zone elevation of six eleven.p.12
12:35:36.2CAHOT-1HITOB at two thousand. a three degree glide path. that checks in the box.p.12
12:35:41.6CAHOT-1and...funky kind of lighting there we'll make sure we have tens on our...scales. make sure we got to zero after we are established and cleared. and anything else sir?p.12
12:35:57.4FOHOT-2do we have to select or verify that it's gone to point three?p.12
12:36:02.8CAHOT-1yes...welp.p.12
12:36:04.9FOHOT-2or do we select it?p.12
12:36:05.4CAHOT-1in the R-N-P we do. we sel-- we highlight it.p.12
12:36:09.4CAHOT-1so we should go to--p.12
12:36:11.6FOHOT-2gotta go to legs page to do that.p.12
12:36:12.8CAHOT-1yep.p.12
12:36:14.2FOHOT-2but we have to wait until we are in an approach segment right. DCA11IA047p.12
12:36:16.5CAHOT-1yeh.p.13
12:36:20.2CAHOT-1is that what that says here...p.13
12:36:22.8FOHOT-2G-P-S or R-N-P point three required.p.13
12:36:28.0CAHOT-1so we would do something like this.p.13
12:36:30.2CAHOT-1and line select it there yes?p.13
12:36:32.2FOHOT-2yeh.p.13
12:36:35.2FOHOT-2now there's automatic scaling to a point.p.13
12:36:37.9CAHOT-1ah huh.p.13
12:36:38.6FOHOT-2but I don't remember that see I just.p.13
12:36:40.9CAHOT-1you know it.p.13
12:36:43.6CAHOT-1there's another cheat sheet. do you have one on your side?p.13
12:36:44.5FOHOT-2yeh...yeh.p.13
12:36:48.1CAHOT-1or am I using the wrong one? DCA11IA047p.13
12:36:52.4CAHOT-1nope. nope. nope. nope.p.14
12:36:56.6FOHOT-2nah.p.14
12:37:04.3FORDO-2three five one five Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.14
12:37:12.9FORDO-2center Southwest nineteen nineteen out of ah nineteen four for ah fifteen thousand. lima.p.14
12:37:28.8FORDO-2speed our discretion we'll expect to hold Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.14
12:37:36.1CAHOT-1now there's weather.p.14
12:37:52.5CAHOT-1alright twenty nine forty one.p.14
12:37:58.9CAHOT-1ah descent checklist.p.14
12:38:01.1FOHOT-2alright altimeters and bugs. DCA11IA047p.14
12:38:02.7CAHOT-1set and cross checked.p.15
12:38:05.4FOHOT-2v-ref and target.p.15
12:38:06.7CAHOT-1how about we'll go with ah one twenty nine one forty five. set and noted.p.15
12:38:11.3FOHOT-2auto brake.p.15
12:38:12.6CAHOT-1max set.p.15
12:38:13.9FOHOT-2ah packs.p.15
12:38:15.4CAHOT-1auto.p.15
12:38:16.0FOHOT-2start switches.p.15
12:38:16.7CAHOT-1left continuous.p.15
12:38:17.7FOHOT-2recall.p.15
12:38:18.5CAHOT-1clear.p.15
12:38:19.1FOHOT-2descent check complete. I'll sit em' down and tell em' we got a slight delay...**. DCA11IA047p.15
12:38:21.4CAHOT-1yep.p.16
12:38:23.4FOPA-2*** Chicago Midway airport...A-T-C has given us ah a slight delay in holding here...***...have not given us an exact time yet. anyway we got cloudy skies gusty winds temperature sixty one degrees. on behalf of your flight crew we would like to thank you for flying with us *.p.16
12:38:26.7◦HOT[sound of single chime, similar to seat belt sign]p.16
12:38:35.3CARDO-1Southwest nineteen nineteen...sierra mike alpha say again.p.16
12:38:48.2CARDO-1Southwest nineteen nineteen call you right back.p.16
12:38:59.4CARDO-1and Southwest nineteen nineteen I have the SMARS intersection.p.16
12:39:08.5CARDO-1direct SMARS descend and maintain one one thousand Southwest nineteen nineteen. and we are R-N-P capable if that's going to be a factor today. DCA11IA047p.16
12:39:19.1FOHOT-2SMARS at eleven huh?p.17
12:39:20.6CAHOT-1yyyyyyeppp.p.17
12:39:32.5FOHOT-2did they give us holding?p.17
12:39:33.9CAHOT-1not yet.p.17
12:39:35.5FOHOT-2is that where the holdings gonna be?p.17
12:39:36.6CAHOT-1I think so yeah.p.17
12:39:37.9FOHOT-2okay.p.17
12:39:41.1CAHOT-1why doesn't it give us slant.p.17
12:39:45.0FOHOT-2next hold.p.17
12:39:45.7CAHOT-1next hold there we go. SMARS.p.17
12:39:49.8CAHOT-1du-lupe.p.17
12:39:50.8FOHOT-2voila. DCA11IA047p.17
12:39:51.8CAHOT-1voila.p.18
12:40:01.1CAHOT-1and we're down to eleven.p.18
12:40:06.9FORDO-2two three seven five Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.18
12:40:09.5FOHOT-2thanks.p.18
12:40:14.3FOHOT-2and speeds are whatever.p.18
12:40:16.4CAHOT-1yeah.p.18
12:40:30.1FOHOT-2Southwest nineteen nineteen with you fifteen thousand lima.p.18
12:40:46.9FORDO-2okay ah to SMARS. ah maintain ten thousand. hold west as published. right turn up to ten miles on the legs. Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.18
12:41:01.4FORDO-2one eight one five thank you.p.19
12:41:03.5CAHOT-1as published to what?p.19
12:41:06.4FOHOT-2I'm sorry.p.19
12:41:07.2CAHOT-1we just went direct SMARS.p.19
12:41:09.2FOHOT-2right he said.p.19
12:41:11.2FOHOT-2down to ten thousand. it was he said hold west...right turns.p.19
12:41:14.4CAHOT-1hold west...right turns.p.19
12:41:15.9FOHOT-2so that's why I said as published.p.19
12:41:17.2CAHOT-1as we are right now.p.19
12:41:18.6FOHOT-2yeah.p.19
12:41:19.7FOHOT-2and up to ten mile legs. ten mile legs approved he said.p.19
12:41:25.0FOHOT-2E-F-C is eighteen fifteen so.p.19
12:41:28.4CAHOT-1yeh let's figure out where we are. DCA11IA047p.19
12:41:29.8FOHOT-2yeh that's not good.p.20
12:41:30.6CAHOT-1no.p.20
12:41:32.3FOHOT-2I told them...we'd be there in twenty five minutes.p.20
12:41:34.5CAHOT-1yeh.p.20
12:41:35.1FOHOT-2I'm lyin'. I knew he'd make a liar out of me.p.20
12:41:40.1CAHOT-1and down to ten thousand yeh?p.20
12:41:41.5FOHOT-2agree.p.20
12:41:42.1CAHOT-1okay.p.20
12:41:43.3FOHOT-2and any speed you want.p.20
12:41:44.7CAHOT-1yeh I'm gonna get.p.20
12:41:45.5CAHOT-1bring it back.p.20
12:41:46.0FOHOT-2actually its two thirteen it'll do itself at this point.p.20
12:41:47.4CAHOT-1yeh. DCA11IA047p.20
12:41:50.1FOHOT-2three minutes out.p.21
12:41:55.0CAHOT-1ahhh. okay.p.21
12:42:01.5FOHOT-2go down.p.21
12:42:06.4FORDO-2good rate to ten Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.21
12:42:26.0CAHOT-1I wonder why it didn't take my ah ten mile legs.p.21
12:42:30.7FOHOT-2ah try it again.p.21
12:42:33.0FOHOT-2oh you put it in. oh distance. a legs. oh that's minutes yeh.p.21
12:42:37.0FOHOT-2you know what maybe what ** in the hold.p.21
12:42:39.4CAHOT-1** yep there it goes.p.21
12:42:47.7CAHOT-1let's figure out a distance to ah Saint Louis.p.21
12:42:52.1FOHOT-2Saint Louis.p.21
12:42:60.0FOHOT-2it says a hundred and fifty three miles. DCA11IA047p.21
12:43:02.3CAHOT-1okay. that's not too bad.p.22
12:43:03.8FOHOT-2yeh.p.22
12:43:12.4FOHOT-2and it's the same distance to Indy.p.22
12:43:14.3CAHOT-1okay.p.22
12:43:37.9CAHOT-1okay I really gotta go potty too.p.22
12:43:40.0FOHOT-2yeah.p.22
12:43:40.9FOHOT-2but do you wanna go now?p.22
12:43:42.0CAHOT-1no.p.22
12:43:42.7FOHOT-2okay.p.22
12:43:45.1FOHOT-2you want some water?p.22
12:43:45.9CAHOT-1[laughter] no.p.22
12:44:11.5FOHOT-2eleven for ten.p.22
12:44:12.9CAHOT-1eleven ten. DCA11IA047p.22
12:44:18.5FOHOT-2I'll talk to the people.p.23
12:44:18.9◦CAM[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]p.23
12:44:19.8CAHOT-1yeh alright.p.23
12:44:20.3FOHOT-2I'll just tell them I was wrong.p.23
12:44:26.2FOPA-2and folks from the flight deck ah once again ah they give us an estimate on the time *** thirty minutes *** ah it's possible ***.p.23
12:45:06.7CAHOT-1alllrrrright um.p.23
12:45:23.2CAHOT-1okay we currently got twelve point three on the fuel. we probabally our alternate burn is three point eight.p.23
12:45:33.5FOHOT-2okay.p.23
12:45:34.0CAHOT-1yah.p.23
12:45:35.6FOHOT-2yeh we got lot's of fuel.p.23
12:45:37.8CAHOT-1enter the hold.p.23
12:45:42.9FOHOT-2I'm gonna delete Bradford. is that alright? DCA11IA047p.23
12:45:47.2CAHOT-1yeh.p.24
12:45:53.6FOHOT-2yeh that works.p.24
12:45:59.3FOHOT-2hold us.p.24
12:46:02.2CARDO-1Southwest nineteen nineteen in the hold.p.24
12:46:12.1CAHOT-1so I say ah...land with five eight.p.24
12:46:19.8FOHOT-2okay how come the hold page isn't comin' up. do you have to like go to the outbound? oh...that's how you do it.p.24
12:46:26.8CAHOT-1[laughter]p.24
12:46:27.1FOHOT-2there's a hold button.p.24
12:46:29.8CAHOT-1ah we gotta probably get out of here no less than nine.p.24
12:46:33.3FOHOT-2okay.p.24
12:46:34.1CAHOT-1okay.p.24
12:46:37.2FOHOT-2yeh that land's with five. basically. barely. DCA11IA047p.24
12:46:39.0CAHOT-1yeh.p.25
12:46:49.8CAHOT-1then if they stick us on the other side we'll look at Indy.p.25
12:46:52.9FOHOT-2yeh.p.25
12:46:55.7CAHOT-1make sense?p.25
12:46:56.8FOHOT-2it does. I agree with the math.p.25
12:46:59.0CAHOT-1how about we talk to dispatch.p.25
12:47:06.7FOHOT-2ahhh ops report isn't it there? yeeahh.p.25
12:47:31.6CAHOT-1hoh.p.25
12:47:32.3FOHOT-2ah no remarks. okay.p.25
12:47:35.8CAHOT-1no not yet no.p.25
12:47:51.4CAHOT-1so we got a guy two thousand feet below us.p.25
12:48:07.2CAHOT-1niner thousand. DCA11IA047p.25
12:48:10.8FORDO-2niner thousand Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.26
12:48:13.9FOHOT-2niner to nine.p.26
12:48:26.3CAHOT-1ten nine out of ten.p.26
12:48:27.7◦CAM[sound of double chime, similar to flight attendant call]p.26
12:48:28.4CAHOT-1attendants notified. I'm going to do this.p.26
12:48:31.8FOHOT-2hold available is fifty five minutes or fifty four minutes...and...that's working off of---p.26
12:48:38.9OBFA-3folks we are on final descent right now. please make sure your---p.26
12:48:41.1◦CAM[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]p.26
12:48:45.4FOHOT-2we're not on final descent but that's alright.p.26
12:48:46.9CAHOT-1no that's alright.p.26
12:49:05.0CAHOT-1this is why I like flying on the west coast.p.26
12:49:09.5FOHOT-2message received. DCA11IA047p.26
12:49:11.9CAHOT-1hold doesn't look like they're holding that long...but if you...very good...Milwaukee.p.27
12:50:08.3FOHOT-2burn to Milwaukee is one point five.p.27
12:50:14.9FOHOT-2I don't like that.p.27
12:50:16.2CAHOT-1yeh I don't either.p.27
12:50:17.7CAHOT-1we'll be going a lot sooner than that.p.27
12:50:20.0FOHOT-2[laughter] he said if you want. I don't want that either.p.27
12:50:29.8FOHOT-2one point five...it's just nothin'.p.27
12:51:14.5FOHOT-2it's not even that much closer. he's just doin' it from the missed approach point.p.27
12:51:15.1CAHOT-1yeh...yeh.p.27
12:51:51.8FOHOT-2busy little guy.p.27
12:52:07.0FOHOT-2okay. seven on approach so that's fifteen minutes.p.27
12:52:19.5FOHOT-2yeh. we'll get a tenth or two overfly. [laughter]. that's alright. it's just gonna mess up our dinner. DCA11IA047p.27
12:52:27.9FOHOT-2that's the real problem.p.28
12:52:29.3CAHOT-1that's the real deal.p.28
12:52:35.9FOHOT-2is it this airplane that goes on?p.28
12:52:37.8CAHOT-1no this thing goes to Houston.p.28
12:54:44.5CAHOT-1oh joy.p.28
12:54:58.7CAHOT-1there he is.p.28
12:55:21.1CAHOT-1well they're descending him.p.28
12:55:29.4FORDO-2eight thousand Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.28
12:55:31.4CAHOT-1eight thousand feet.p.28
12:55:34.1FOHOT-2* turn on him we can get him.p.28
12:55:37.6CAHOT-1flush the toilet right on em'.p.28
12:55:42.6FOHOT-2nine eight. DCA11IA047p.28
12:55:44.3◦CAM[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]p.29
12:55:45.0CAHOT-1nine eight.p.29
12:55:50.6FOHOT-2well I guess I'll get the latest greatest.p.29
12:56:21.3FOHOT-2brand new...six miles and rain.p.29
12:57:13.7FOHOT-2well I'll run it with the winds.p.29
12:57:15.6CAHOT-1okay.p.29
12:57:19.4FOHOT-2instead of three hundred seventy we'll have ah four seventy we'll have ah...I don't know.p.29
12:58:12.2FOHOT-2ah better stoppin' margin and we weigh less too so I'll...let's put in a fictitious weight.p.29
12:58:13.0CAHOT-1yah..yah..yahp.29
12:58:27.2FORDO-2seven thousand Southwest nineteen nineteen. DCA11IA047p.29
12:58:28.7CAHOT-1seven thousand.p.30
12:58:29.8FOHOT-2anyway seven hundred and twenty at max.p.30
12:58:31.9CAHOT-1okay.p.30
12:58:33.8CAHOT-1eight for seven.p.30
12:58:35.0FOHOT-2twenty eight...eight seven.p.30
12:58:42.5◦CAM[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]p.30
12:59:50.7CAHOT-1ha-ha there he is.p.30
12:59:53.5FOHOT-2that's right we could take him.p.30
13:01:40.9FOHOT-2it's forty at uh Chicago now. two nine four zero.p.30
13:01:44.4CAHOT-1thank you.p.30
13:02:44.0CAHOT-1oh this is a bunch of fun.p.30
13:02:46.8FOHOT-2yeh I could hit him with a rock now I think.p.30
13:02:50.0CAHOT-1where is it? DCA11IA047p.30
13:02:51.1FOHOT-2he's right right there.p.31
13:04:16.8CAHOT-1did we finally pass em'.p.31
13:04:18.0FOHOT-2yep.p.31
13:04:21.3FOHOT-2you gave him our tail man. he's gonna get us now.p.31
13:04:23.3CAHOT-1[laughter]p.31
13:04:28.7FOHOT-2yeh he's flyin' slow because we ah we went right by him.p.31
13:04:30.2CAHOT-1yeh.p.31
13:04:32.5FOHOT-2I'd say he's like one eighty or somethin' crazy.p.31
13:04:48.0CAHOT-1the whole gang is here.p.31
13:05:51.0FOHOT-2yeh the crowd keeps tempin' it down.p.31
13:05:53.0CAHOT-1yeh.p.31
13:07:13.9CAHOT-1buildin' time for the majors.p.31
13:07:16.2FOHOT-2that's it. DCA11IA047p.31
13:07:17.8FOHOT-2at least for triple a.p.32
13:07:19.2CAHOT-1yeh.p.32
13:07:21.5FOHOT-2yeh I guess we're gonna make our E-F-C man.p.32
13:07:31.5FOHOT-2so much for a tenth.p.32
13:07:33.1CAHOT-1yeh.p.32
13:07:38.9FOHOT-2now it's up to three tenths maybe four.p.32
13:07:45.5FOHOT-2the dilemma. you'll make enough for lunch but you won't have time to eat it.p.32
13:07:51.4CAHOT-1[laughter]p.32
13:07:55.2FOHOT-2haah in the mean time this stuff grows.p.32
13:07:58.3CAHOT-1yah.p.32
13:08:00.6FOHOT-2tornado watch.p.32
13:08:03.0CAHOT-1nice.p.32
13:08:04.9FOHOT-2dispatchee. dispatchio. any word? DCA11IA047p.32
13:08:08.8CAHOT-1not yet.p.33
13:08:10.1FOHOT-2what kind of word do you want. any word. ahh slow.p.33
13:08:15.8CARDO-1and approach Southwest nineteen nineteen ah how's it how's it lookin'?p.33
13:08:32.2FOHOT-2could send back palabra.p.33
13:08:33.9CAHOT-1yeh.p.33
13:08:45.8FOHOT-2dispatch is always optimistic.p.33
13:08:47.9CAHOT-1yeh oh ah.p.33
13:08:50.3FOHOT-2I was too I didn't think it would take this long but.p.33
13:08:54.9FOHOT-2yeh. get to the outer marker divert with one point five to Milwaukee. you'll be fine.p.33
13:09:00.4CAHOT-1[laughter]p.33
13:09:03.0CAHOT-1we're seventy five miles from the field so. DCA11IA047p.33
13:09:06.1FOHOT-2I know I think Indy is the closest right now but.p.34
13:09:12.5FOHOT-2there's probably more diversions coming from the east than there are from the west ***.p.34
13:09:15.4CAHOT-1yeh.p.34
13:09:27.9FOHOT-2thanks.p.34
13:09:40.7FOHOT-2boom shock a locka.p.34
13:10:05.7FOHOT-2temperature is droppin again. #.p.34
13:10:21.5FOHOT-2must be in a downdraft.p.34
13:10:27.2CAHOT-1or an updraft.p.34
13:10:28.6FOHOT-2yeh the other side.p.34
13:11:11.6CAHOT-1wonder if they'd get mad if you declared O'Hare as your alternate. [laughter]p.34
13:11:18.7FOHOT-2that would work. DCA11IA047p.34
13:11:28.5FOHOT-2well there's Dupage there's Gary there's---.p.35
13:11:58.7FOHOT-2so we got one more turn probably.p.35
13:12:03.5FOHOT-2they'll give us JOLIET after we come out of it.p.35
13:12:08.5CAHOT-1they gotta squirt him out ahead of us.p.35
13:12:10.9FOHOT-2yeh.p.35
13:13:05.8CAHOT-1right turn JOLIET direct.p.35
13:13:07.1FORDO-2okay right turn direct JOLIET um Southwest nineteen nineteen. and say again maintain seven thousand.p.35
13:13:22.1CAHOT-1correct.p.35
13:13:22.7FORDO-2yes maam R-N-P qualified. right turn direct JOLIET seven thousand Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.35
13:13:33.7FOHOT-2right on. right on time man. fifteen. yeh kind of.p.36
13:13:34.9CAHOT-1yeh...yeh.p.36
13:13:46.9FORDO-2two fifty knots ah when we get turned around Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.36
13:13:51.9CAHOT-1two fifty on the knots. here we go.p.36
13:14:18.1FOHOT-2yeah.p.36
13:14:22.9FOHOT-2alright thirty seven miles to JOLIET.p.36
13:14:49.1CAHOT-1wanna send uh dispatch a quick one?p.36
13:14:50.9FOHOT-2yeah.p.36
13:14:52.6CAHOT-1thank you.p.36
13:15:10.4FOHOT-2close enough.p.36
13:15:12.0HOTHOT-?(missed or mist) DCA11IA047p.36
13:16:16.0FORDO-2two ten knots Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.37
13:16:18.2CAHOT-1two ten.p.37
13:16:20.1CAHOT-1***p.37
13:16:24.0FOHOT-2do you want to go left or right?p.37
13:16:24.6CAHOT-1yeah let's go left.p.37
13:16:26.4FORDO-2Southwest nineteen nineteen ah we got a build up in front ah comin' about ah five to ten left?p.37
13:16:37.1CAHOT-1okay.p.37
13:16:37.4FORDO-2wilco Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.37
13:16:42.9FOHOT-2yeee. DCA11IA047p.37
13:16:57.0FORDO-2down to six Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.38
13:16:57.1CAHOT-1six.p.38
13:16:59.8CAHOT-1she said two ten right?p.38
13:17:01.2FOHOT-2right **.p.38
13:17:10.9◦CAM[sound of tone, similar to altitude alert]p.38
13:17:11.9CAHOT-1and six point eight for six thousand *.p.38
13:17:14.4FOHOT-2seven for six.p.38
13:17:16.5FOHOT-2back direct now?p.38
13:17:17.9CAHOT-1ah just gonna skim this just a little bit * know past this overhang here.p.38
13:17:20.0FOHOT-2okay.p.38
13:17:37.4FORDO-2Southwest nineteen nineteen ah back to JOLIET. DCA11IA047p.38
13:18:06.0CAHOT-1JOLIET-ahhhh L-nav.p.39
13:18:27.9CAHOT-1we should have no problem but I'd say ah no less than what eight thousand at the fix to get to Milwaukee?p.39
13:18:34.4FOHOT-2yeah what'a we got now nine ten.p.39
13:18:36.6CAHOT-1just over ten yeah.p.39
13:18:39.0FOHOT-2yeah.p.39
13:18:43.2FOHOT-2yeah 'cause that will give you...about six to Milwaukee I agree with that.p.39
13:18:47.6CAHOT-1right.p.39
13:18:51.3CAHOT-1two ten assigned.p.39
13:18:51.8FORDO-2two ten as assigned Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.39
13:18:59.7FORDO-2nineteen thirty five wilco Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.40
13:19:16.7FORDO-2Southwest nineteen nineteen six thousand two ten knots oscar.p.40
13:19:20.1APRAPRSouthwest nineteen nineteen Chicago approach expect R-nav R-N-P yankee one three center approach Midway reduce speed to one seven zero.p.40
13:19:27.3FORDO-2one seventy knots R-nav R-N-P yankee one three center Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.40
13:19:33.3CAHOT-1did he just say a hundred and seventy knots?p.40
13:19:34.9FOHOT-2he said a hundred and seventy. yes.p.40
13:19:36.6CAHOT-1wwwooowww.p.40
13:19:37.9FOHOT-2R-nav R-N-P yankee.p.40
13:19:46.3APRAPRSouthwest nineteen nineteen also at JOLIET intercept the final approach course.p.40
13:19:49.7CAHOT-1JOLIET join the final approach course. DCA11IA047p.40
13:19:51.8FORDO-2join ah final approach course at JOLIET Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.41
13:19:57.9CAHOT-1don't know what he means.p.41
13:19:59.8FOHOT-2you want a flap?p.41
13:20:01.1CAHOT-1yep flaps one er flaps five yeah thanks.p.41
13:20:01.8◦CAM[sound of double-click, similar to flap handle movement]p.41
13:20:04.4CAHOT-1flaps one will work.p.41
13:20:05.3FOHOT-2oh okay. I've got it at two.p.41
13:20:06.8CAHOT-1that's good.p.41
13:20:07.2FOHOT-2one seventy knots right. one seventy.p.41
13:20:08.6CAHOT-1yep.p.41
13:20:09.4CAHOT-1thank you.p.41
13:20:12.1FOHOT-2he's just really like throwin' curve balls at us.p.41
13:20:14.1CAHOT-1yeah. no kiddin'. DCA11IA047p.41
13:20:15.1CAHOT-1okay I've got the R-N-P yankee ten er twelve twenty.p.42
13:20:27.9FOHOT-2twelve twenty thank you.p.42
13:20:34.0CAHOT-1[humming] R-nav.p.42
13:20:38.6CAHOT-1there it is. yank-me.p.42
13:20:42.5CAHOT-1okay...now it makes sense.p.42
13:20:43.3FOHOT-2okay now it makes sense.p.42
13:20:45.8CAHOT-1TOYUL.p.42
13:20:47.3APRAPRSouthwest nineteen nineteen once you've slowed descend and maintain two thousand five hundred.p.42
13:20:51.4CAHOT-1two thousand five hundred.p.42
13:20:52.3FORDO-2after slowing two thousand five hundred Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.42
13:20:58.0FOHOT-2two thousand five hundred.p.42
13:21:03.3FOHOT-2actually I guess we could go V-nav speed intervention if you want right? DCA11IA047p.42
13:21:08.4CAHOT-1yep.p.43
13:21:11.7CAHOT-1perfect.p.43
13:21:13.9CAHOT-1thank you.p.43
13:21:14.3FOHOT-2is it one seventy or one seventy five?p.43
13:21:16.3CAHOT-1i'm gonna due one seventy just just cause...bouncin' in and out of these clouds.p.43
13:21:17.2FOHOT-2okay.p.43
13:21:19.6FOHOT-2alright.p.43
13:21:20.6CAHOT-1alright sir I got if you want to follow along on the box here real quick.p.43
13:21:23.3FOHOT-2right.p.43
13:21:24.7CAHOT-1TOYUL at four thousand it's mandatory that is the I-F. and thenp.43
13:21:24.7GIKGIKLEtwenty five hundred mandatory.p.43
13:21:28.2FOHOT-2right.p.43
13:21:31.6CAHOT-1JUPIR two thousand mandatory max two ten on the knots. we got no problems with there. turning into NIDEE. DCA11IA047p.43
13:21:38.2CAHOT-1DULTE and a one thirty five inbound to the ah approach. ten sixty five ten sixty five is the ah R-N-P.p.44
13:21:52.3CAHOT-1and let's make sure we set the box up with the point three.p.44
13:21:57.8FOHOT-2yeah.p.44
13:22:00.4CAHOT-1annnnddd.p.44
13:22:02.3FOHOT-2actually after actu...when we get to TOYUL...right okay.p.44
13:22:06.4CAHOT-1yeah.p.44
13:22:08.0FOHOT-2alright um. no questions so far.p.44
13:22:11.4CAHOT-1okay.p.44
13:22:12.4FOHOT-2oh and it's a glide path of three degrees.p.44
13:22:14.6CAHOT-1three degrees. okay.p.44
13:22:38.2CAHOT-1so let's delete that TOYUL altitude.p.44
13:22:43.1FOHOT-2okay.p.44
13:22:44.0CAHOT-1it's gonna be below us er above us. DCA11IA047p.44
13:22:45.3FOHOT-2right.p.45
13:22:48.6FOHOT-2you can do it up there too right?p.45
13:22:50.0CAHOT-1yep.p.45
13:22:52.6CAHOT-1old school man. old school.p.45
13:22:53.8FOHOT-2[laughter]p.45
13:22:59.7FOHOT-2you know that works but you're still wondering about it.p.45
13:23:01.6CAHOT-1yeah.p.45
13:23:21.5FOHOT-2thirty five for twenty five.p.45
13:23:24.1CAHOT-1alright.p.45
13:23:35.6◦CAM[sound of low tone, similar to altitude alert]p.45
13:23:46.8FORDO-2[other aircraft was telling controller they could not find the RNP Yp.45
13:23:46.8RWYRWY13C approach chart]. twelve dash twenty.p.45
13:23:50.6CAHOT-1exec jet they don't have it.p.45
13:23:52.5FOHOT-2oh I thought it was us. DCA11IA047p.45
13:23:52.9CAHOT-1different.p.46
13:23:54.2CAHOT-1yeah.p.46
13:23:54.7CAHOT-1and that's three thousand for twenty five hundred.p.46
13:23:57.7FOHOT-2three *p.46
13:23:58.5CAHOT-1TOYUL.p.46
13:24:00.6CAHOT-1oil and toil and eye of newt.p.46
13:24:20.5HOTHOT-?ah man.p.46
13:24:23.5FOHOT-2be * by the time we...p.46
13:24:33.6CAHOT-1alright once we're inside we go point three.p.46
13:24:37.5FOHOT-2I agree.p.46
13:25:56.8FOHOT-2man this is really fightin' all this wind.p.46
13:25:58.6CAHOT-1yeah it is.p.46
13:26:03.9FOHOT-2temperature's popped up too. DCA11IA047p.46
13:26:05.7CAHOT-1yep.p.47
13:26:31.3APRAPRSouthwest nineteen nineteen three miles from TOYUL cleared for R- nav R-N-P yankee runway one three center approach Midway maintain one seven zero knots.p.47
13:26:39.9FORDO-2cleared R-nav R-N-P yankee ah Southwest nineteen nineteen a hundred and seventy knots .p.47
13:26:46.1CAHOT-1cleared the approach ready?p.47
13:26:47.5FOHOT-2yes.p.47
13:26:48.4CAHOT-1zero set.p.47
13:26:49.5FOHOT-2and point three-ish.p.47
13:26:51.6CAHOT-1point three.p.47
13:26:54.0CAHOT-1got it.p.47
13:26:59.4CAHOT-1ten mile arc is set.p.47
13:27:04.8FOHOT-2what's the ten mile arc again?p.47
13:27:06.8CAHOT-1ah once you're on the approach ten mile ring. yeah. DCA11IA047p.47
13:27:09.6FOHOT-2oh...right.p.48
13:27:15.4FOHOT-2well I was trying to figure out if that's real or it's buildings.p.48
13:27:18.8CAHOT-1yeah its.p.48
13:27:24.3FOHOT-2so I'll join ya' in a little bit.p.48
13:27:25.9CAHOT-1okay.p.48
13:27:32.6FOHOT-2I'm thinkin' that's a cloud because I'm five up.p.48
13:27:36.1FOHOT-2an ah the city's further north.p.48
13:27:40.5FOHOT-2so.p.48
13:27:41.0CAHOT-1right.p.48
13:28:11.9FOHOT-2[laughter] [referring to other aircraft] he's trying to figure out can we do that.p.48
13:28:14.5CAHOT-1[laughter]p.48
13:28:17.0FOHOT-2yeah.p.48
13:28:20.5CAHOT-1there's O'hare right there. DCA11IA047p.48
13:28:28.5FOHOT-2yeah that's the problem with one three.p.49
13:28:30.4CAHOT-1yep.p.49
13:28:31.0FOHOT-2backyard.p.49
13:28:32.1APRAPRSouthwest nineteen nineteen uhm maintain one seven zero knots tillp.49
13:28:32.1JUPJUPIRand at JUPIR contact Midway tower one one eight point seven.p.49
13:28:40.1CAHOT-1JUPIR got it.p.49
13:28:40.9FORDO-2tower at JUPIR Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.49
13:28:55.8CAHOT-1alright descending to two thousand.p.49
13:29:07.8FOHOT-2yes but when.p.49
13:29:08.8CAHOT-1[laughter] yeah.p.49
13:29:11.1CAHOT-1come on baby.p.49
13:29:13.8FOHOT-2it's the positive control there the little green arc went out. that's that's my indication.p.49
13:29:16.5CAHOT-1yep. DCA11IA047p.49
13:29:23.1CAHOT-1alright that's close enough for me let's go landing gear down.p.50
13:29:26.9FOHOT-2landing gear down.p.50
13:29:28.8◦CAM[sound of increase noise, similar to landing gear extension]p.50
13:29:29.0CAHOT-1flaps to fifteen.p.50
13:29:30.3FOHOT-2fifteen.p.50
13:29:31.4◦CAM[sound of click, similar to flap handle]p.50
13:29:40.8HOTHOT-?** fair.p.50
13:29:42.5HOTHOT-?[exhale]p.50
13:29:43.3ATCTWRseven papa mike the first arrival reported wet and fair braking on runway one three center.p.50
13:29:43.3FOHOT-2you want me to re-run it?p.50
13:29:47.5CAHOT-1flaps twenty five please.p.50
13:29:49.0FOHOT-2twenty five. DCA11IA047p.50
13:29:49.8◦HOT[sound of click]p.51
13:29:50.2CAHOT-1slow down baby slow down baby.p.51
13:29:51.7FOHOT-2yeah you can give it back two.p.51
13:29:52.5CAHOT-1yeah.p.51
13:29:53.1FOHOT-2aw and we're overspeed *.p.51
13:29:54.0CAHOT-1yeah yeah.p.51
13:29:54.6CAHOT-1#.p.51
13:29:56.2◦CAM[sound of click, similar to flap handle]p.51
13:29:56.6FOHOT-2I went back to eh.p.51
13:29:57.6CAHOT-1yeah.p.51
13:29:58.8FOHOT-2it didn't I don't think it went.p.51
13:30:02.6CAHOT-1what's that yeh we're in V-nav path.p.51
13:30:04.5FOHOT-2yeah you want ah--- DCA11IA047p.51
13:30:05.2CAHOT-1flaps thirty.p.52
13:30:06.0FOHOT-2thirty.p.52
13:30:09.6CAHOT-1ahh ahh.p.52
13:30:10.7FOHOT-2thirty.p.52
13:30:11.2◦CAM[sound of click, similar to flap handle]p.52
13:30:11.5HOTHOT-?sheesh'.p.52
13:30:13.4CAHOT-1yeah we oversped.p.52
13:30:16.3CAHOT-1flaps to forty.p.52
13:30:17.2FOHOT-2flaps to forty.p.52
13:30:18.0◦CAM[sound of double-click, similar to flap handle]p.52
13:30:20.1CAHOT-1# look at that rain fall right---p.52
13:30:25.1FOHOT-2and we're still good...p.52
13:30:26.1CAHOT-1okay. DCA11IA047p.52
13:30:26.6FOHOT-2...two hundred foot margin.p.53
13:30:28.1CAHOT-1I can see the end of the runway but I can see that rain squall right there too so.p.53
13:30:33.8CAHOT-1ask tower which way that line of weather er water is moving. you see the runway right there?p.53
13:30:37.8FOHOT-2yeah I do.p.53
13:30:38.6CAHOT-1okay.p.53
13:30:40.3FORDO-2tower Southwest ah nineteen nineteen JUPIR inbound. ah which way is the ah rain shower moving?p.53
13:30:47.4ATCTWRairport nineteen nineteen Midway tower you are following traffic short final runway one three center cleared to land. winds two one zero at niner. the rain is moving to the east to north east.p.53
13:30:58.9CAHOT-1okay thank you.p.53
13:31:00.5FORDO-2ah one three center cleared to land thanks Southwest nineteen nineteen.p.53
13:31:07.1HOTHOT-?*p.53
13:31:09.0FOHOT-2ah L-nav V-nav path. DCA11IA047p.53
13:31:11.1CAHOT-1ah L-nav V-nav zero set thank you.p.54
13:31:37.2CAHOT-1alright approaching minimums.p.54
13:31:40.3FOHOT-2uh oh yah I hold on a second is that right?p.54
13:31:43.3CAHOT-1yeah.p.54
13:31:43.7FOHOT-2yeah okay approaching minimums.p.54
13:31:47.1◦CAM[sound of three warning horns, similar to autopilot disconnect warning]p.54
13:31:49.6FOHOT-2minimums.p.54
13:31:50.1CAHOT-1landing.p.54
13:32:04.5FOHOT-2I * set it wrong.p.54
13:32:05.6FOHOT-2na'h ya- okay this is the approach I was looking for the green bar.p.54
13:32:08.8CAHOT-1oh yeah.p.54
13:32:08.9FOHOT-2that's what threw me off that was through the thousand foot mark anyway. DCA11IA047p.54
13:32:11.5CAHOT-1okay okay gotchy'a.p.55
13:32:13.2FOHOT-2I knew there was somethin' wrong with that.p.55
13:32:16.6FOHOT-2* I'd set mine wrong.p.55
13:32:18.6FOHOT-2anyway still clear to land.p.55
13:32:19.7CAHOT-1yep.p.55
13:32:20.1FOHOT-2looks like ah we've gotta...a gusty wind.p.55
13:32:23.5CAHOT-1yeah * progress * (two) (page).p.55
13:32:30.4FOHOT-2six knots from the right.p.55
13:32:33.8FOHOT-2there's aye ah we're already landingp.55
13:32:51.5ATCTWRSouthwest three seventy six Midway tower company departure to cross prior to your arrival wind two two zero at one zero gust one seven runway one three center cleared to land.p.55
13:32:54.7CAHOT-1thank you.p.55
13:32:54.9◦CAM[sound similar to windshield wipers continues until and through landing rollout] DCA11IA047p.55
13:32:56.5FOHOT-2ah fifty.p.56
13:33:00.8FOHOT-2ten.p.56
13:33:03.6◦CAM[sound similar to touchdown]p.56
13:33:04.8◦CAM[sound of rumbling, similar to touchdown]p.56
13:33:05.0◦HOT[unidentified .03 second sound] (may be sound of mechanical solenoid associated with landing) 13:33:010.0p.56
13:33:05.0FOHOT-2gett(in') on the brakes.p.56
13:33:11.1CAHOT-1[straining] I got no brakes man [exhale].p.56
13:33:12.7FOHOT-2ut.p.56
13:33:14.2CAHOT-1get get on em'p.56
13:33:15.0FOHOT-2I'm on em' with yah.p.56
13:33:16.2◦HOT[sound of pilot straining]p.56
13:33:18.8CAHOT-1#p.56
13:33:20.0HOTHOT-?* power power power * DCA11IA047p.56
13:33:24.1CAHOT-1#p.57
13:33:26.1◦CAM[sound of three loud shudders]p.57
13:33:31.5ATCTWRSouthwest nine...teen...nine...teen--p.57
13:33:32.5◦CAM[sound of increase engine noise, similar to thrust reversers]p.57
13:33:35.3◦CAM[sound of low frequency rumble, similar to travel over rumble strips]p.57
13:33:36.9CAHOT-1#p.57
13:33:40.4CAHOT-1#p.57
13:33:40.9◦CAM[sound of decrease in engine noise]p.57
13:33:42.9ATCTWRSouthwest three seventy six go around climb and maintain three thousand company went off--p.57
13:33:48.2CAPA-1ladies and gentlemen remain in your seats.p.57
13:33:53.1CAHOT-1#p.57
13:33:57.6ATCTWRSouthwest nineteen nineteen everybody okay on board? DCA11IA047p.57
13:34:00.2FORDO-2yeah we're all in place ah...just off into the grass.p.58
13:34:00.3◦CAM[sound similar to seat belts, seat moving]p.58
13:34:05.3◦CAM[sound similar to cockpit door opening]p.58
13:34:06.7ATCTWRAirport eighty four need to drive one three center.p.58
13:34:07.0CACAM-1you see any fire? no fire okay.p.58
13:34:10.3◦CAM[remote unintelligable voice]p.58
13:34:11.5CACAM-1okayp.58
13:34:14.2ATCTWRAirport eighty four readback.p.58
13:34:15.1CACAM-1okayp.58
13:34:16.2◦CAM[sound of multiple clicks and clacks, similar to seatbelts]p.58
13:34:19.4CACAM-1ladies and gentlemen everybody stay in your seats everything is fine okay. there is no fire no nothin'. stay right there. we got stairs on the way.p.58
13:34:28.7◦CAM[sound of multiple clicks and clacks, similar to seatbelts] DCA11IA047p.58
13:34:30.8FOCAM-2did it. it just cycled off?p.59
13:34:33.5CACAM-1no I ah.p.59
13:34:37.1CACAM-1it wasn't s--p.59
13:34:38.9CAMCAM-4[low volume voice] captainp.59
13:34:39.9CACAM-1yes.p.59
13:34:40.5CAMCAM-4* fire department is on the way.p.59
13:34:42.6CACAM-1okay.p.59
13:34:43.2CAMCAM-4um I don't know if we're going to be able to get out of here.p.59
13:34:45.5CACAM-1okay should we...p.59
13:34:46.6CAMCAM-4***p.59
13:34:47.6CACAM-1okay.p.59
13:34:53.2CACAM-1we touched--p.59
13:34:53.8CAMCAM-4** DCA11IA047p.59
13:34:54.6CACAM-1okay.p.60
13:34:55.7CACAM-1we touched down...p.60
13:34:58.6CACAM-1...came back in...p.60
13:35:00.1◦CAM[sound of sirens increasing in volume]p.60
13:35:01.6FOCAM-2did you go forward with the ah...reversers? cause you were out of it.p.60
13:35:06.9CACAM-1I was out of 'em. yeah.p.60
13:35:09.7CACAM-1did I activate 'em?p.60
13:35:14.1FOCAM-2I thought you did but I looked up and the the autobrake was disarmed and we weren't slowin' down and then---p.60
13:35:19.3CACAM-1I was gettin' on the brakes as hard as I could.p.60
13:35:29.0CAMCAM-?pull the ah---p.60
13:35:35.7CAMCAM-?um.p.60
13:35:38.1FOCAM-2okay now its a matter of taking care of the passengers.p.60
13:35:40.3CACAM-1yes yes. DCA11IA047p.60
13:35:40.8FOCAM-2so we need to...we're going to run stairs is that it?p.61
13:35:40.8CACAM-1they are on their way...fire trucks are here...yes.p.61
13:35:49.6FORDO-2Chicago ops nineteen nineteen.p.61
13:35:52.7ATCOPSwelcome nineteen nineteen we are going to see you at bravo twenty three. ah with no services. can you tell me the runway you landed and what were the conditions?p.61
13:35:57.7CACAM-1hey you guys no one talks to anybody. ok?p.61
13:36:03.8FORDO-2yeah we are off the runway and I just want to ah coordinate with you we've got stairs or somethin' comin'. we are in the grass. no one's hurt. we are off of one three center. just beyond the taxi end.p.61
13:36:16.4ATCTWRSouthwest niner one niner...correction Southwest nineteen nineteen tower.p.61
13:36:24.6ATCTWRSouthwest nineteen nineteen tower.p.61
13:36:25.2FORDO-2okay I just want to make sure you are aware of that and we are activating ground personnel for stairs for tug or both.p.61
13:36:32.4ATCOPSokay ah you're off the runway in the grass what runway did you come off of? thirteen center.p.61
13:36:32.5◦CAM[unintelligible conversations by other than cockpit crew] DCA11IA047p.61
13:36:36.2CACAM-1was it the gusty wind or the tailwind that did us?p.62
13:36:41.5FORDO-2one three center. affirmative.p.62
13:36:47.0CAMCAM-?#p.62
13:36:51.5CAHOT-1hey you talkin' to me? this is the captain. hello.p.62
13:36:57.5CAHOT-1hello. hello. hello.p.62
13:37:02.7CAHOT-1hello guys.p.62
13:37:03.4ATCOPSnineteen nineteen are you up?p.62
13:37:07.1FORDO-2yes go ahead.p.62
13:37:08.4ATCOPSum do you know how many passengers you have on that aircraft?p.62
13:37:14.0CAHOT-1it was ah--p.62
13:37:14.5FORDO-2standby.p.62
13:37:14.9CAHOT-1the count was one thirty four.p.62
13:37:17.7FOHOT-2yeah. DCA11IA047p.62
13:37:19.4FORDO-2we got. we got one thirty four passengers.p.63
13:37:22.4CAHOT-1one thirty four.p.63
13:37:23.8ATCOPSokay we're going to get emergency vehicles over there.p.63
13:37:28.0FORDO-2thank you.p.63
13:37:30.0FORDO-2yeah we have emergency vehicles here. we have some ground crew.p.63
13:37:36.6FORDO-2just wondering about airstairs.p.63
13:37:38.8ATCOPSokay we will arrange for airstairs.p.63
13:37:41.9FORDO-2thank you.p.63
13:37:42.4CACAM-1yeah. we have no oth-- no oth-- no other indications. we still have it on A-P-U power. you want us to shut that off?p.63
13:37:51.8CACAM-1yes.p.63
13:37:55.4CACAM-1take the A-P-U down? okay.p.63
13:38:00.5CACAM-1alright.p.63
13:38:04.5◦CAM[distant voice asks how many people on board] DCA11IA047p.63
13:38:05.4CACAM-1one three four plus five on the crew.p.64
13:38:09.9CACAM-1awe @ am so sorry.p.64
13:38:13.4CACAM-1it was not stopping.p.64
13:38:14.8FOHOT-2I know it was like nothing was there.p.64
13:38:15.4CACAM-1the guy just reported wet fair.p.64
13:38:15.4FOHOT-2fair and we ran it with fair.p.64
13:38:20.1FOHOT-2but it didn't have a whole lot of margin.p.64
13:38:21.7CACAM-1yep.p.64
13:38:23.3FOHOT-2had the winds changed.p.64
13:38:26.7FOHOT-2it was less than fair.p.64
13:38:27.8CACAM-1yeah * we touched down * yeah.p.64
13:38:27.8FOHOT-2there was nothin'...I was on the brakes with ya' and nothin' was slowin' down... nothin'.p.64
13:38:32.7CACAM-1I didn't have--these were not. these were not up. DCA11IA047p.64
13:38:35.2FOHOT-2yeah and I saw that and I-I-I told you get 'em up and I thought you had come out with 'em but. I was wondering why this was disarmed.p.65
13:38:36.4CACAM-1yeah..yeah...p.65
13:38:46.8FOHOT-2where did--do you remember where we touched down? we were in the zone. were were before it.p.65
13:38:50.6CACAM-1yeah.p.65
13:38:52.0CACAM-1cause I chopped the power early.p.65
13:38:54.2CACAM-1let's pull the--let's shut this off.p.65
13:38:57.4FOHOT-2yeah...okay let's do the checklist here...evacuation not required ah.p.65
13:38:58.3CACAM-1yeah.p.65
13:39:02.2CACAM-1ah...emergency evac.p.65
13:39:22.7FOHOT-2ah #...flight controls..what is it.p.65
13:39:34.1FOHOT-2we're not doin' an emergency evacuation. we've done everything for it. ah we are just in the grass. with the A-P-U running. ah there is not a checklist...yeah. DCA11IA047p.65
13:39:47.4CACAM-1guys I need--what channel are you on? yeah I'm not on anything. What do you need?p.66
13:39:55.0CACAM-1are they bringin' stairs or are we gonna--okay.p.66
13:40:00.9CACAM-1okay...the problem I know it's really wet so the stairs are probabally gonna get stuck. yeah.p.66
13:40:09.7CACAM-1how about I ah.p.66
13:40:18.4CAPA-1and a ladies and gentlemen as you can see outside we've got all the equipment we need our problem is the ground is so wet ah some of the equipment might sink so we are trying to make the decision how to get the stairs up to the aircraft in a safe manner. we'll have you out of this aircraft as quick as we can.p.66
13:40:43.0FOHOT-2I don't know. I don't know.p.66
13:40:46.6CACAM-1we're safe that's all that matters.p.66
13:40:50.1FOHOT-2yeah exactly.p.66
13:40:51.0◦CAM[unintelligible voices from cabin]p.66
13:40:52.1CACAM-1yes. absolutely. okay. okay.p.66
13:40:57.1CACAM-1hey ah @. @ open the rear door. rear service. rear. DCA11IA047p.66
13:41:01.7CAMCAM-5yeah.p.67
13:41:06.0CACAM-1well collect all your data.p.67
13:41:10.6CACAM-1no one's hurt sir. no one's hurt.p.67
13:41:15.0CACAM-1on the front of your um SWAPA thing there is somethin' about accident. and you need to pull some ah.p.67
13:41:19.1FOHOT-2yeah I've got that. circuit breaker.p.67
13:41:21.5CACAM-1yeah.p.67
13:41:37.3FOHOT-2P-eighteen.p.67
13:41:38.9FOHOT-2D-two.p.67
13:41:40.6CACAM-1what's that.p.67
13:41:47.3CACAM-1cockpit voice recorder.p.67
13:41:49.5FOCAM-2P-eighteen.p.67
13:41:51.1CACAM-1P-eighteen it's behind you.p.67
13:41:53.1FOHOT-2D-two. DCA11IA047p.67
13:41:53.6CAMCAM-6you guys want anything to drink.p.68
13:41:54.6CACAM-1no no no.p.68
13:41:56.2CACAM-1guys like I said tell her don't talk to anybody until.p.68
13:42:04.9◦CAM[sound of two chimes, similar to flight attendant call button]p.68
13:42:11.0◦CAM[sound of two chimes, similar to ACARS alert]p.68
13:42:11.2HOTHOT-7@p.68
13:42:12.7HOTHOT-8yeah.p.68
13:42:13.5HOTHOT-7hey which door do you want to use here...they’re asking me...it's this door right...the door I have open...[sigh] oh my God...our aft--our aft entry door...not the one where we use the provisioner...he's comin' up right now with the stairs.p.68
13:42:57.1CACAM-1hey @ @ @ captain on nineteen nineteen. hey thanks. yep we're in the mud. everybody's okay. no injuries. engines have been shut down. uh fire trucks are here. we're trying to get some airstairs that won't sink in the mud. but everything--...yes---...we're doin'---we're doin'---we're doin' it right now.p.68
13:43:23.7CACAM-1everybody's fine. no injuries. aircraft is approximately um ten to fifteen feet off of the left end. we did not go into the frangible cement. we steered it into the grass. we're a good hundred feet from the fence line. everybody is here with no injuries....yeah...yep...oh yeah. DCA11IA047p.68
13:43:55.9CACAM-1no...no no no...the aircraft was...we were landing right at max weight. had wind gusts a storm had just passed through the area. guy in front of us had just called wet fair. ah when we hit the brakes we weren't gettin' anything it was just...it just kept goin'. we both got on the brakes as hard as we could and ah and weren't seeing any deceleration. and we finally got it [end of recording]p.69