Cases › DCA07MA310 › Cockpit voice recorder
MCDONNELL DOUGLAS DC-9-82 (MD-82)American Airlines
1,694 lines · 12:29:55.8 – 14:28:40.4 · St. Louis, MO, 2007-09-28
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1,694 of 1,694 lines
CaptainFirst officerControllersWarningsSounds
The final secondsjump to the end ↓
- 14:28:20.0CAM-?* have no idea how big a hero * * * * * * *.
- 14:28:21.7CAM-2well the # are things at flight you want flight recorder and what else?
- 14:28:25.3CAM-?ah he wants to pull the ah if you got voice recorder and flight recorder
- 14:28:28.8CAM-2(look) at this left engine oil pressure (popped).
- 14:28:30.9CAM-?should be on the emergency checklist look on you yoke clip.
- 14:28:31.7CAM-2yeah it would it woulda popped.
- 14:28:33.7CAM-?it'll tell ya on the yoke clip.
- 14:28:35.3CAM-2look at you guys man.
- 14:28:38.1CAM-2voice recorder F-six.
- 14:28:40.4CAM-1(okay) there we go.
Crew communication
1,694 lines readobservations a human-factors reviewer takes from a transcript — the sterile cockpit, the Board's own notations, rhythm, CRM markers. Not emotions, not scores: the affect is in the audio, and the audio is sealed48 / 40
floor share · CA / FO %
25%
non-pertinent talk in sterile window
21 · 97 · 75
laughter · delivery · expletives
30 of 119
crew questions unanswered in 8 s
5 of 7
warnings with a crew response in 5 s
Sterile cockpit · 14 CFR 121.542
Windows: 13:07:13–13:17:24, 13:29:37–14:01:39 · basis: recorder pressure altitude below 10,000 ft. Candidate non-pertinent lines below are a first reading for the investigator, not a finding; “@” marks the Board's own non-pertinent-word notation.
- 13:07:19.0“just monitor this it's 'cause they're so busy here they (you know) they have to over control everything.”
- 13:07:27.1“the metering thing is * * just a joke but.”
- 13:07:39.6“yeah, swing off of Delta and * *.”
- 13:07:42.4“if you go down Charlie, Southwest will run you over.”
- 13:07:59.7“yeah we have to get to Chicago * * * *. my wife's coming in from Orange county from.”
- 13:09:32.5“* * * we're pretty much done there.”
- 13:10:10.7“I almost forgot the other day I think.”
- 13:13:11.1“does that mean the start valve is open?”
- 13:13:36.6“* * * * we'll look at it.”
- 13:14:02.5“alright we have to go back and land.”
- 13:14:15.7“yeah we're gonna have to uh declare an emergency swing back around there and land at St. Louis.”
- 13:14:37.2“you gonna fly or are you ah you run * *.”
- 13:14:59.8“okay left throttle pilot flying idle. * *.”
- 13:15:44.2“I can I can fly for you wanna talk to those * *.”
- 13:15:53.9“this is @ on C.”@
- 13:16:16.9“* * * make sure it's the loop that's uh that's *.”
- 13:16:44.5“got it? cool all right ah be right there.”
- 13:17:04.0“I'm gonna go tell these pilots up here what we just heard okay, I'm just gonna tell the pilots up here what I heard..”
- 13:31:19.8“uuh no they're just they're just not working.”
- 13:33:06.4“yeah we're gonna roll up behind 'em here so, so I guess tow us back.”
- 13:34:12.1“(you) fire the other bottle er * *?”
- 13:34:13.9“(think they're) both gone I shot 'em both.”
- 13:35:25.9“uuh no there's nowhere for anybody to go we've the guys got a handle on it right now they're gonna shoot it for us.”
- 13:35:32.2“we don't want to get everybody off here.”
- 13:35:33.9“there's no where for them to go *.”
- 13:35:50.6“* football team coming in.”
- 13:35:59.3“yeah # just went whack-a-doodle on us *.”
- 13:36:15.7“we had all kinds of # goin' on there.”
- 13:36:17.2“you had that before you had here comes that came on and once all the # came on.”
- 13:36:46.6“extra pay in this for you.”
- 13:36:49.9“@ going to be waiting for you when you get *.”@
- 13:36:51.4“@ I appreciate you coming up here and helpin' out.”@
- 13:36:56.5“# yeah I * * * no * [sound of laughter].”
- 13:37:01.7“did I tell you this # always always happens to me?”
- 13:37:04.0“no remind me to put you on my do not fly list.”
- 13:37:08.6“* * * * talkin' to me * *.”
- 13:37:31.6“no is there * there no smoke inside?”
- 13:37:47.6“(put) a little water on it that’s it.”
- 13:37:56.4“(we're) gonna have to get a tug though.”
- 13:38:01.9“I think you lose it but you lose it when we do that though don't you?”
- 13:38:09.1“it's all that system # I that don't remember.”
- 13:38:18.3“but I don't know where they want us to park 'cause I don't think I have any nose wheel steering in here.”
- 13:39:00.1“no I don't think there's any need to evacuate the airplane I see the vans uhm but if uh you see the tug coming out?”
- 13:39:21.7“ahh we really didn't have any time to speak to anybody but I'll give them a call, you know we didn't even have any-”
- 13:39:47.8“(#it they just want you to tow it *).”
- 13:40:21.7“* * * do they have * things goin' on they're worried about what you know. # it.”
- 13:40:27.6“we got some A-C goin' on. that's cool.”
- 13:41:41.1“fire department's coming on board so * * * *.”
- 13:41:46.9“okay thank you I guess fire department wants to come on board they're gonna ah come on the airplane.”
- 13:42:34.8“...right after that this kicked in I'm like well okay maybe its a loop but then the fire bell started going off and then that's when we.”
- 13:43:51.6“it doesn't doesn't matter I don't I don't guess I have anything uh?”
- 13:43:55.8“I'm holdin' these but they're probably just wasting my time.”
- 13:43:58.1“he chocked ya too so that was the ah uhm first guy came out but.”
- 13:44:05.3“yeah I don't, I mean he's still got, * * out on that block us out on that eh eh, according to that.”
- 13:44:16.3“hey this is * is * any way they can use their cell phones?”
- 13:44:41.5“well I didn't e- I'm like seemed awfully quiet that's the only way.”
- 13:44:45.9“we're halfway down final the first time and he's goin' oh # shouldn't that be up? *I'm goin'.”
- 13:44:53.3“but that that # all mechanical why the # would that stick up?”
- 13:45:03.5“no no you're right it's a mechanical lock.”
- 13:45:20.9“I'm just like keep this this thing flyin'.”
The Board’s own notations
Delivery and physiological notes the transcribers added in brackets, plus # expletives. 1142 words are marked unintelligible (*).
- #13:02:09.1“@ #. how many how many years you got?”
- #13:04:49.7“did the F-one hundred for # five years after that then did the seven three for a couple then jumped back to, jumped into.”
- #13:05:00.9“no I, no I uhm I left before when they announced the airplane was going to come out I I jumped ship so, real quick and then I was up their and then then lines started getting # and # but you know what # with that * * * * (gettin close).”
- #13:06:46.9“uuhm I don't know what the # they just did.”
- #13:08:07.0“no, she's working ah tonight she's working ah she works contract for ah flight attendant for McDonalds corporation at the base there so she was with us for twenty years twenty-two years and uh she's coming in from Orange County we're gonna fly home in the morning to Grand Rapids * * # I got a hotel at the * Holiday Inn Select * * * * * *.”
- sound similar to single chime13:09:26.0“and uhm auto and pressure on [sound similar to single chime] * * *.”
- #13:10:46.9“* * now you're ready to go and I'm like well # * * * *. well there's tower so * * we're * we're ready to go.”
- sound similar to nose gear door closing13:12:35.3“[sound similar to nose gear door closing].”
- #13:13:02.2“ah that # uh start valve light thing is * on.”
- #13:13:05.6“# I didn't see that before.”
- electronic voice13:16:14.3“twenty-five hundred [electronic voice].”
- #13:17:25.8“oh # I can't even shut it off.”
- #13:18:21.7“* * * * we've lost all # power * *.”
- #13:18:27.0“this # will not discharge.”
- #13:18:40.0“come on. I'm not gonna # with the door [sound similar to mechanical bang] #.”
- #13:18:53.0“[sound similar to the cockpit door being operated] * # everything here. [sound similar to the cockpit door being operated] all right * * # with that.”
- #13:19:05.5“I'm not going to # with this thing any more.”
- #13:19:29.6“# was that?”
- #13:20:43.5“okay I'm gonna run through some of this other # hydraulic pumps those are all high and on.”
- #13:21:12.0“I ain't got time to # around figure out why.”
- #13:21:17.9“oh # * not showing ah shouldn't we get this?”
- #13:21:30.7“I don't get # gear either. we're gonna have to manually drop these #.”
- #13:22:01.5“#.”
- #13:22:18.6“#.”
- +50 more
Silences of 45 s or more
- 540 s12:29:55.8 → 12:38:55.3
- 324 s12:55:04.6 → 13:00:28.9
- 279 s12:40:57.3 → 12:45:35.8
- 214 s12:51:31.1 → 12:55:04.6
- 199 s12:46:34.1 → 12:49:52.8
- 122 s12:38:55.3 → 12:40:57.3
- 98 s12:49:52.8 → 12:51:31.1
- 58 s12:45:35.8 → 12:46:34.1
Concerns voiced, and what followed
Hedged or questioning lines from one pilot in the critical window, with the other pilot’s next words.
- 13:16:03.1“okay I don't think we'll have to evacuate but uh if we do you know what the signal is it'll be uhm easy victor easy victor three times.”→ 13:16:20.6“yeah well uh * * * *.”
- 13:35:02.8“I think we're probably gonna need to be towed off 'cause I don't have any nose wheel steering we're down to one engine.”→ 13:35:25.9“uuh no there's nowhere for anybody to go we've the guys got a handle on it right now they're gonna shoot it for us.”
- 13:39:34.1“you think we can safely taxi off the runway or should we stay here?”→ 13:39:37.5“let him tow it off.”
- 13:41:22.2“* I don't know what * * really * this this is it * * * (release) and then couldn't even get couldn't get it to ah go any further than that * * push it on down.”→ 13:41:27.1“* come on?”
- 13:48:42.8“you know how you know and no you know no no guidance from this thing so I don't know how much can I how much can I do to the engine.”→ 13:48:56.8“use up the only good one.”
- 13:50:25.0“I don't know * either just the mechanical lock was holdin' it 'n it never released till you pulled up the handle?”→ 13:50:35.7“aw #.”
- 13:50:40.9“sheddin' # on the runway too huh?”→ 13:51:11.2“what do we know about the tug?”
- 13:53:41.3“and now the odd thing is this the APU picked up the left side.”→ 13:53:44.6“probably shoulda gone over ta.”
- 13:54:15.3“is there any fluid is that like pegged ah that's (on) zero * * any (right) hydraulic?”→ 13:54:29.3“* (have) quantity gotta (de-pressurize).”
- 13:56:23.7“why are we * *? trans fails to wherever you had it set. taken out provided you don't get any power back if we have to it it aughta work.”→ 13:56:47.1“yeah but this aughta be aughta be be three thousand.”
- 14:26:19.0“* I well I did- I didn't take my feet off the brakes till we stopped I don't know.”→ 14:26:29.0“* that's * * that shoulda that shoulda * * * * * * * * * *.”
Warnings and the response
- 13:13:55.0[sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine.→ 3.9 s later: 13:13:58.9“fire light oh my gosh.”
- 13:17:01.7[sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine.→ 0.1 s later: 13:17:01.8“fire light.”
- 13:17:16.7[sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine.→ 2.6 s later: 13:17:19.3“I just got power transfer too.”
- 13:17:37.1[sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine.→ no crew words within 5 s
- 13:31:54.7too low, terrain [electronic voice].→ 2.3 s later: 13:31:57.0“turn that off.”
- 13:31:59.7too low, terrain. too low, terrain. too low, terrain. too low, terrain. too low, terrain. [electronic voice].→ no crew words within 5 s
- 14:28:30.9should be on the emergency checklist look on you yoke clip.→ 0.8 s later: 14:28:31.7“yeah it would it woulda popped.”
Questions between the pilots left unanswered
- 13:01:14.7“I mean ah di- did I open it with the switch or did they open it?”
- 13:18:48.2“can you op- close the door and I'll I'll latch it?”
- 13:19:29.6“# was that?”
- 13:22:45.0“can you get @ ah other captain up here real quick?”
- 13:22:59.5“is he here?”
- 13:29:30.8“* * you got the power there now, don't you?”
- 13:41:27.1“* come on?”
- 13:41:31.4“do you wanna come on board?”
- 13:50:25.0“I don't know * either just the mechanical lock was holdin' it 'n it never released till you pulled up the handle?”
- 13:50:40.9“sheddin' # on the runway too huh?”
- 13:53:59.9“(comin' 'em) back?”
- 13:54:15.3“is there any fluid is that like pegged ah that's (on) zero * * any (right) hydraulic?”
- +18 more
Standard callouts
V1Rotate / VrV2Positive rateGear up1,000 ftGear downRunway in sight500 ft · not in transcriptMinimums · not in transcriptGo around · not in transcriptStabilized · not in transcript
“Not in transcript” never means “not said”: a line may be unintelligible, or the recording may not cover that phase.
Language, as counts
| Speaker | words | questions | hedges | exclamations | expletives | checklists | non-pertinent lines |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Captain | 5,576 | 95 | 53 | 15 | 14 | 1 | 97 |
| First officer | 4,694 | 77 | 25 | 61 | 71 | 1 | 109 |
| Observer / jumpseat | 1,472 | 20 | 12 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 29 |
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12:29:55.8◦CAM[The captain and FO review the guidance for Engine Start Valve Manual Operation Procedure in the QRH].p.9
12:38:55.3◦CAM[A ground crewman notifies the captain that they are set up to perform a manual start procedure on the left engine. The captain and FO review the manual engine start procedure].p.9
12:40:57.3◦CAM[The captain and FO perform the before starting engines checklist and takeoff briefing].p.9
12:45:35.8INTINT[The captain initiates left engine start by holding the switch in the start position while instructing the ground crew to open the start valve].p.9
12:46:34.1INTINT[The captain informs ground crew that he sees no indication of start valve opening].p.9
12:49:52.8INTINT[A ground crewman notifies the captain that they are having difficulty manually opening the start valve and had opened the lower cowling for the left engine. The FO suggested that the Captain should release the start switch].p.10
12:51:31.1INTINT[A ground crewman notifies the captain that maintenance wanted him to shut off the air supply to enable replacement of the start valve, since they could not open the start valve manually. The ground crewman notifies the captain that both maintenance personnel had returned to their line office and that the ground crew were re-connecting the external air supply].p.10
12:55:04.6◦CAM[The jump seat rider verifies that the start valve had been replaced the day before yesterday, and that this had not solved the start problem. Also, while the aircraft was in Chicago the day before, the start valve opened only partially on the first manual start attempt. But the engine started normally on the second manual start attempt,].p.10
13:00:28.9OBINT-3'kay cockpit we're cleared ta- if we go ahead and uh we're gonna start this thing up and when you uh get to twenty percent open it run the fuel to it and let me know when to kill the air.p.10
13:00:40.2CAINT-1okay ah you want us to go ahead and try to start now huh?p.11
13:00:43.7OBINT-3correct, we're gonna wind it up and uh go ahead and do just like a regular light-off and let me know ah when to kill the air.p.11
13:00:51.4CAINT-1okay all right I'm uh I got a start valve open light right now.p.11
13:00:56.1OBINT-3okay you got rpm?p.11
13:00:59.0CAINT-1uh yes we do.p.11
13:01:00.5OBINT-3okay go for a regular light-off and let me know when about thirty five percent.p.11
13:01:05.0CAINT-1all right.p.11
13:01:06.2FOCAM-2* * * * * * *.p.11
13:01:08.6CAINT-1does that mean they've already got the valve open or uh what?p.11
13:01:10.8OBINT-3yes the valve's open we're spinnin' the engine.p.11
13:01:12.7CAINT-1okay.p.11
13:01:14.7CAINT-1I mean ah di- did I open it with the switch or did they open it?p.12
13:01:17.3OBINT-3we're opening this ourselves.p.12
13:01:19.8CAINT-1all right thanks.p.12
13:01:24.1CACAM-1'kay give it to 'em.p.12
13:01:26.1CAINT-1okay we just put fuel in.p.12
13:01:28.2OBINT-3okay.p.12
13:01:31.6CAINT-1there's thirty-five percent right there.p.12
13:01:33.6OBINT-3okay, we got it.p.12
13:01:37.1INTINT[sound of noise transient similar to electrical power source switching]p.12
13:01:37.6◦CAM[sound similar to cockpit window being closed]p.12
13:01:41.4CAINT-1okay looks like we're good to go uh. it's the let's get clearance to push then.p.13
13:01:46.4OBINT-3all right uh I'll give it back over the ramp.p.13
13:01:50.4CACAM-1all right.p.13
13:01:50.4FOCAM-2* I guess it's gonna be * won't be (an event).p.13
13:01:54.9FOCAM-2[sound of chuckle].p.13
13:01:58.5CACAM-1thanks a lot @.p.13
13:02:00.4FOCAM-2ah * a nice family man.p.13
13:02:02.7CACAM-1yeah.p.13
13:02:05.4CACAM-1I'm ambivalent right now. I got six months to go and.p.13
13:02:07.9FOCAM-2do you really?p.13
13:02:08.7CACAM-1(yeah).p.14
13:02:09.1FOCAM-2@ #. how many how many years you got?p.14
13:02:13.9CACAM-1it's not quite eighteen for me by the time I get done but I did I did active duty for twenty years.p.14
13:02:19.0FOCAM-2did you okay. Air Force or?p.14
13:02:21.5CACAM-1yeah Air Force tankers.p.14
13:02:23.0FOCAM-2ooh where were did you fly'em out of?p.14
13:02:26.1CACAM-1mostly out of mid-west uh Grissom.p.14
13:02:28.9FOCAM-2okay.p.14
13:02:29.1CACAM-1Wright Patt.p.14
13:02:29.8FOCAM-2eh well you refueled us guys up at uh up at Battle Creek.p.14
13:02:33.4CACAM-1oh yeah I'm sure we did. * had the airborne command post * * *.p.14
13:02:37.2FOCAM-2okay.p.14
13:02:40.2FOCAM-2* (this that) * * *. as soon as you're ready to shove off, I'll tell 'em.p.15
13:02:46.7INTINT-4cockpit do you copy?p.15
13:02:48.4CAINT-1I hear ya.p.15
13:02:49.4INTINT-4ah yes the ground area is clear uh you can give 'em a call any time you're ready.p.15
13:02:52.4INTINT-?I ah.p.15
13:02:54.4CAINT-1okay thanks.p.15
13:02:59.1FOCAM-2you got a nice little pay check coming in * * * see well now you're already getting your military retirement.p.15
13:03:06.8FORDO-2hey uh.p.15
13:03:07.9CAPA-1okay folks we got the left engine started and we'll be underway ah in just a second.p.15
13:03:11.8ATCRAMPtremendous fourteen hundred uh why don't you uh if you're set then switch to metering on twenty seven fifty five ask 'em for uh ask 'em for tail west spot number uh, spot number twelve we'll see you later.p.16
13:03:26.2FORDO-2tail west twelve *.p.16
13:03:29.2FORDO-2hey meter American fourteen hundred ready to go off Charlie sixteen for a tail west spot twelve.p.16
13:03:32.8CAINT-1brakes are released uh cleared to push tail west spot twelve.p.16
13:03:33.0ATCGNDAmerican fourteen hundred * * * * push as requested advise * *.p.16
13:03:36.2INTINT-4copy clearance push tail west spot twelve.p.16
13:03:37.4FORDO-2* * thanks.p.16
13:03:39.2FOCAM-2you know what? spot twelve, cleared to do 'er.p.16
13:03:41.1CACAM-1'kay.p.16
13:03:45.6CACAM-1got a new ATIS already?p.16
13:03:46.9FOCAM-2yeah, * * *.p.17
13:03:49.8CACAM-1'kay we're supposed to do what a forty or forty five?p.17
13:03:52.0FOCAM-2forty yeah * * twenty *.p.17
13:03:54.4CACAM-1ah we can make the turn.p.17
13:03:55.6CACAM-1I gotta guess ah if there's no more delays I can get down to Orlando and *.p.17
13:03:59.3FOCAM-2it was ah, earlier flight time you guys were were like fifteen hundred coming off so from Orlando.p.17
13:04:06.1CAMCAM-?[low level mostly unintelligible speech consistent with the flight attendant safety briefing together with Morse code identifier sounds].p.17
13:04:07.4FOCAM-2* * * * (right)?p.17
13:04:10.7FOCAM-2pickup time and make a *.p.17
13:04:13.4FOCAM-2put thirty twenty in there please *.p.17
13:04:14.6CACAM-1* *.p.17
13:04:21.3FOCAM-2back on.p.18
13:04:29.1CACAM-1(we were) right here man.p.18
13:04:30.6FOCAM-2yeah.p.18
13:04:33.5CACAM-1yeah this whole * * do that little dance on the inside.p.18
13:04:38.4CACAM-1yeah you remember that?p.18
13:04:39.8FOCAM-2* * remember comin' down during the F-one hundred. did you ever do that?p.18
13:04:43.5CACAM-1not in the one hundred but I did it * * did on the inside in the eighty a couple of times before I got pushed off the seat.p.18
13:04:49.7FOCAM-2did the F-one hundred for # five years after that then did the seven three for a couple then jumped back to, jumped into.p.18
13:04:59.5CACAM-1(did you ever get displaced)?p.18
13:05:00.9FOCAM-2no I, no I uhm I left before when they announced the airplane was going to come out I I jumped ship so, real quick and then I was up their and then then lines started getting # and # but you know what # with that * * * * (gettin close).p.19
13:05:17.0CACAM-1maybe we'll get four right into Chicago or something.p.19
13:05:19.7FOCAM-2yeah I can * (three zero) * * * okay see ah.p.19
13:05:28.7CACAM-1if you see anything prior V one, let me know I'll probably decide when we get within twenty knots of V one I think we're flying, unless it's catastrophic and ah.p.19
13:05:36.7INTINT-4ah cockpit, brakes parked.p.19
13:05:40.9CAINT-1uh, brakes are parked that was a nice push-out uh you can ah release if you want and ah disconnect and we'll see you up front.p.19
13:05:46.3INTINT-4all right, area being cleared disconnecting interphone have a good day.p.19
13:05:49.9CAINT-1okay thank you.p.19
13:05:56.3CACAM-1anyway if uh unless we're on fire we'll go to Chicago. if we're on fire we'll come back and land here.p.20
13:06:01.9FOCAM-2all righty.p.20
13:06:22.1FOCAM-2oh there there's an old crew in here.p.20
13:06:24.7CACAM-1okay start light.p.20
13:06:27.0FOCAM-2yeah these boys are doing * thirty-five minute turns here.p.20
13:06:33.6CACAM-1yeah, fifteen minute down change. * probably wasn't even fifteen minutes.p.20
13:06:38.5CACAM-1we get the log book back?p.20
13:06:40.1FOCAM-2yeah yeah they didn't even take it ah.p.20
13:06:43.1CACAM-1okay we're going to have them defer it or something if it's working.p.20
13:06:46.9FOCAM-2uuhm I don't know what the # they just did.p.20
13:06:49.4CACAM-1well they said they manually opened it for us.p.20
13:06:51.2FOCAM-2yeah.p.21
13:06:59.7CACAM-1let's try not to screw anything up too much before I you know *.p.21
13:07:05.9FOCAM-2* * there's forty percent.p.21
13:07:06.9CACAM-1*.p.21
13:07:07.5INTINT[sound of electrical transient similar to electrical power source switching]p.21
13:07:08.6FORDO-2hey meter American uh fourteen hundred we are ready to taxi.p.21
13:07:12.8METMETAmerican fourteen hundred monitor ground point niner.p.21
13:07:15.3CACAM-1good day.p.21
13:07:15.3CARDO-1day.p.21
13:07:15.7FOCAM-2all right and I'm on number one now.p.21
13:07:17.7CACAM-1number one and what'd they say?p.21
13:07:19.0FOCAM-2just monitor this it's 'cause they're so busy here they (you know) they have to over control everything.p.22
13:07:27.1CACAM-1the metering thing is * * just a joke but.p.22
13:07:30.7CAMCAM-?hint hint we're gonna go out this.p.22
13:07:32.5CAMCAM-?yeah you.p.22
13:07:33.0ATCGNDAmerican fourteen hundred St. Louis ground taxi runway three zero left.p.22
13:07:35.7FORDO-2down to thirty left American fourteen hundred.p.22
13:07:38.0FOCAM-2right.p.22
13:07:38.1CACAM-1I thinkin' I wanna go left and.p.22
13:07:39.6FOCAM-2yeah, swing off of Delta and * *.p.22
13:07:42.4CACAM-1if you go down Charlie, Southwest will run you over.p.22
13:07:46.1CACAM-1clear left.p.22
13:07:46.6FOCAM-2right side clear.p.23
13:07:48.3CACAM-1flaps when you're ready ah checklist and all that stuff when you're ready watch your feet.p.23
13:07:59.7FOCAM-2yeah we have to get to Chicago * * * *. my wife's coming in from Orange county from.p.23
13:08:02.7FOCAM-2* * *.p.23
13:08:04.8CACAM-1is that right?p.23
13:08:05.6CACAM-1you takin' her to Orlando?p.23
13:08:07.0FOCAM-2no, she's working ah tonight she's working ah she works contract for ah flight attendant for McDonalds corporation at the base there so she was with us for twenty years twenty-two years and uh she's coming in from Orange County we're gonna fly home in the morning to Grand Rapids * * # I got a hotel at the * Holiday Inn Select * * * * * *.p.23
13:08:09.5CACAM-1oh.p.23
13:08:14.9CACAM-1oh yeah.p.23
13:08:34.0FOCAM-2we'll let's see, we talked about the weight * * * and we did have a headwind variable four but * * *.p.24
13:08:39.3FOCAM-2* * *.p.24
13:08:40.1CACAM-1* * *.p.24
13:08:41.1FOCAM-2yeah you're good. yup.p.24
13:08:44.0CACAM-1*.p.24
13:08:44.3◦CAM[several low level unintelligible comments between pilots]p.24
13:08:44.8FOCAM-2* woulda turned around.p.24
13:08:46.7CACAM-1hey @.p.24
13:08:50.6FOCAM-2how about flight instruments and bugs?p.24
13:08:52.5CACAM-1okay we're set for uh standard uh runway ah thirty left at uh St. Louis *.p.24
13:08:58.3FOCAM-2* * how about flaps and slats?p.24
13:09:00.6CACAM-1okay T-P-S said eight I got eight I got eight got eight and takeoff.p.25
13:09:06.2FOCAM-2all righty verified eight stab trim with eight flaps five four.p.25
13:09:10.1CACAM-1set.p.25
13:09:10.6FOCAM-2'bout anti-skid?p.25
13:09:12.0CACAM-1is (armed).p.25
13:09:12.9FOCAM-2A-B-S?p.25
13:09:14.6CACAM-1takeoff and armed.p.25
13:09:15.3FOCAM-2spoiler lever?p.25
13:09:16.8CACAM-1armed.p.25
13:09:17.3FOCAM-2and the APU?p.25
13:09:19.6CACAM-1comin' down.p.25
13:09:20.6FOCAM-2alright crossfeeds?p.25
13:09:21.6CACAM-1closed.p.26
13:09:22.6FOCAM-2anti-ice?p.26
13:09:24.1CACAM-1windshield * * *.p.26
13:09:24.7FOCAM-2and * the packs?p.26
13:09:26.0CACAM-1and uhm auto and pressure on [sound similar to single chime] * * *.p.26
13:09:31.4FOCAM-2briefing.p.26
13:09:32.5CACAM-1* * * we're pretty much done there.p.26
13:09:36.1CAPA-1and folks we'll be down to the departure end of the runway in about a minute or so uh like the flight attendants prepare for takeoff now.p.26
13:09:59.1CACAM-1okay got two engines running just gotta make sure we have both of 'em started. [sound of chuckle].p.26
13:10:05.4CACAM-1okay. * *.p.26
13:10:07.3FOCAM-2I'm sure it's been attempted before.p.26
13:10:09.3CACAM-1oh yeah.p.27
13:10:10.7CACAM-1I almost forgot the other day I think.p.27
13:10:14.0FOCAM-2I know I almost did it in the simulator, but we we uh * Chicago long time ago in the F-one hundred one of these things we we're ah going off of three two left * * ten they're like yeah cleared to hold no okay you know we were sittin' in line and we're like okay we'll get ready to start ah well you guys go to the other side you got a you know little bit a * in trail so we cut across the * * * side hey you guys are cleared to make a loop back around and we're like, cleared for takeoff like * * (instruments). * * * * * * they knock you out of your routine * *.p.27
13:10:45.6CACAM-1yeah I know.p.27
13:10:46.9FOCAM-2* * now you're ready to go and I'm like well # * * * *. well there's tower so * * we're * we're ready to go.p.27
13:11:01.0FORDO-2American fourteen hundred we'll be ready to go at the end.p.27
13:11:05.4ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred St. Louis tower runway three zero left turn right heading three four five cleared for takeoff with the transponder.p.28
13:11:12.2FORDO-2all righty uh transponder's on up to uh make it a left uh right turn to three forty-five cleared take off thirty left American ah fourteen hundred.p.28
13:11:20.9FOCAM-2all right how 'bout PA?p.28
13:11:21.4◦CAM[sound of hi-lo chime]p.28
13:11:23.3CACAM-1* * .p.28
13:11:23.9FOCAM-2annunciator lights?p.28
13:11:25.4CACAM-1they're checked.p.28
13:11:26.2FOCAM-2engine ignition?p.28
13:11:28.2CACAM-1continuous.p.28
13:11:28.8FOCAM-2transponder?p.28
13:11:29.8CACAM-1TARA.p.28
13:11:30.7FOCAM-2nose wheel lights?p.29
13:11:31.8CACAM-1they're on bright.p.29
13:11:32.4FOCAM-2complete for the takeoff checklist then.p.29
13:11:35.0◦CAM[sound of multiple snaps similar to seat adjustments].p.29
13:11:36.6CACAM-1line 'er up * * * roll.p.29
13:11:48.3◦CAM'kay auto-throttles on.p.29
13:11:49.4◦CAM[sounds similar to aircraft accelerating on takeoff roll].p.29
13:12:03.7FOCAM-2there's eighty knots.p.29
13:12:21.0FOCAM-2V one.p.29
13:12:22.1FOCAM-2rotate.p.29
13:12:25.2FOCAM-2V two.p.29
13:12:28.1CACAM-1positive rate, gear up.p.29
13:12:29.0FOCAM-2*.p.30
13:12:29.8◦CAM[sound of click similar to landing gear handle being moved].p.30
13:12:34.3CACAM-1heading select.p.30
13:12:35.3◦CAM[sound similar to nose gear door closing].p.30
13:12:37.8ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred three four five contact departure good day.p.30
13:12:42.4FORDO-2good day.p.30
13:12:49.0FORDO-2and departure American three forty er fourteen hundred actually we're out of uh one point five for five thousand.p.30
13:12:53.9ATCDEPAmerican fourteen hundred St. Louis radar contact climb maintain one five thousand.p.30
13:12:57.7FORDO-2one five fifteen American fourteen hundred.p.30
13:12:59.5CACAM-1there's five thousand set and armed half rate.p.30
13:12:59.9FOCAM-2fifteen er.p.30
13:13:02.2FOCAM-2ah that # uh start valve light thing is * on.p.31
13:13:05.6CACAM-1# I didn't see that before.p.31
13:13:07.4FOCAM-2well * I didn't either.p.31
13:13:11.1CACAM-1does that mean the start valve is open?p.31
13:13:13.2FOCAM-2ahm.p.31
13:13:14.5CACAM-1could very well mean that.p.31
13:13:15.1ATCDEPAmerican fourteen hundred turn right heading zero five zero don't join the departure vector for traffic.p.31
13:13:19.5FORDO-2okay we'll make a right turn zero five zero and uh not join American uh fourteen hundred.p.31
13:13:29.0CACAM-1and half rate, flaps up, climb power.p.31
13:13:32.0FOCAM-2oh.p.31
13:13:33.4FOCAM-2* *.p.31
13:13:33.6CACAM-1one five thousand.p.31
13:13:36.6FOCAM-2* * * * we'll look at it.p.32
13:13:55.0◦CAM[sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine.p.32
13:13:58.9FOCAM-2fire light oh my gosh.p.32
13:14:02.5CACAM-1alright we have to go back and land.p.32
13:14:03.6FOCAM-2* *.p.32
13:14:05.6CAMCAM-?* * *.p.32
13:14:10.7CACAM-1declare an emergency.p.32
13:14:12.4FORDO-2hey uh St. Louis American ah fourteen hundred.p.32
13:14:14.7ATCDEPyes sir.p.32
13:14:15.7FORDO-2yeah we're gonna have to uh declare an emergency swing back around there and land at St. Louis.p.32
13:14:22.3ATCDEPfive seven Charlie roger American fourteen hundred roger just maintain ah (whatever altitude) you need at or below five thousand be fine need to uh do some work first or come right back?p.33
13:14:29.2CACAM-1* * * * * * *.p.33
13:14:29.8FORDO-2ah no we're gonna come right back around uh we've just got a uh left engine fire indication.p.33
13:14:34.6ATCDEPfive seven Charlie thank you the altimeter's three zero one nine American fourteen hundred turn right heading one two zero.p.33
13:14:37.2FOCAM-2you gonna fly or are you ah you run * *.p.33
13:14:40.0CACAM-1run the checklist I'll fly it.p.33
13:14:41.3FOCAM-2you betcha.p.33
13:14:43.0ATCDEPAmerican fourteen hundred turn right to a heading of ah one two zero.p.33
13:14:46.0CARDO-1* one-twenty American uh five hundred.p.33
13:14:47.8FOCAM-2one thousand.p.33
13:14:48.4CACAM-1*.p.34
13:14:49.8FOCAM-2engine failure * * * fire one * * damage separation let's see auto-throttles pilot flying off.p.34
13:14:59.3CACAM-1off.p.34
13:14:59.8FOCAM-2okay left throttle pilot flying idle. * *.p.34
13:15:04.3ATCDEPAmerican fourteen hundred I can get you right back in for two four if you need to.p.34
13:15:05.1CACAM-1idle.p.34
13:15:08.1FORDO-2uum yeah they're * two four would work.p.34
13:15:10.6FOCAM-2wanna do that?p.34
13:15:11.1ATCDEPAmerican fourteen hundred roger the airport's at uh three o'clock and six miles maintain two thousand five hundred.p.34
13:15:16.4FORDO-2we're going up two thousand five hundred we do have the field in sight fourteen hundred.p.34
13:15:17.7CACAM-1I gotta tell the flight attendants.p.34
13:15:19.9ATCDEP* roger what's the nature of the emergency? do you need the uh the uh equipment's standing by it's going to be a short notice for 'em.p.35
13:15:24.7FORDO-2yeah you're gonna have to roll the trucks for us ah I got a left indication of a left engine fire.p.35
13:15:29.5ATCDEPleft engine fire you wannoo ah you wanna do thirty right or do you wanna ah do two four?p.35
13:15:33.8CACAM-1let's do thirty right.p.35
13:15:34.8FORDO-2let's do uh if it's good better for the uh ARFF guys let's do thirty right.p.35
13:15:38.6ATCDEPAmerican fourteen hundred maintain two thousand five hundred heading one four zero.p.35
13:15:41.9FORDO-2'kay one-forty down to two thousand five hundred.p.35
13:15:44.2FOCAM-2I can I can fly for you wanna talk to those * *.p.35
13:15:44.3CACAM-1okay.p.35
13:15:45.9CACAM-1yeah just fly the airplane.p.35
13:15:46.8◦CAM[sound of hi-lo chime].p.36
13:15:47.8FOCAM-2all righty.p.36
13:15:48.5RDORDO-?[sound similar to an electronic transient].p.36
13:15:49.8◦CAM[sound of two hi-lo chimes]p.36
13:15:50.7CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.36
13:15:53.9INTINT-5this is @ on C.p.36
13:15:54.4INTINT-?*.p.36
13:15:55.4CAINT-1hey this is @ uh I got ah fire indication on the left engine we're going back to land at St. Louis we're gonna to be on the ground in uh probably less than ten minutes uh.p.36
13:16:02.5INTINT-5all right.p.36
13:16:03.1CAINT-1okay I don't think we'll have to evacuate but uh if we do you know what the signal is it'll be uhm easy victor easy victor three times.p.36
13:16:10.1INTINT-6okay.p.36
13:16:10.3CAINT-1'kay.p.37
13:16:11.1CAINT-1all right uh can you prepare the cabin? we're gonna be on the ground in probably uh five minutes or less.p.37
13:16:14.3◦CAMtwenty-five hundred [electronic voice].p.37
13:16:15.2INTINT-5okay.p.37
13:16:15.5INTINT-6thanks.p.37
13:16:15.7CAINT-1okay? thanks.p.37
13:16:16.9CACAM-1* * * make sure it's the loop that's uh that's *.p.37
13:16:20.6FOCAM-2yeah well uh * * * *.p.37
13:16:22.7FOCAM-2the light? now it's back on. * * one more time.p.37
13:16:23.7ATCDEPAmerican fourteen hundred they're building a hole for you on final right now so maintain two thousand five hundred and uh one forty heading. contact approach on one two four point two five twenty four twenty five they'll get you right in.p.37
13:16:26.3◦CAM[sound similar to mechanical click].p.38
13:16:34.4INTINT-6* * * seats we do need for you to remain in your seats with your seatbelts fastened we will be landing in five minutes.p.38
13:16:35.3CARDO-1twenty four twenty-five American uh fourteen hundred.p.38
13:16:40.9FOCAM-2that valve goes in and out.p.38
13:16:44.0CACAM-1got it.p.38
13:16:44.5FOCAM-2got it? cool all right ah be right there.p.38
13:16:46.9FOCAM-2the valve is.p.38
13:16:47.7◦CAM[sound similar to two mechanical clunks].p.38
13:16:48.2CARDO-1and arrival American uh twenty oh fourteen hundred ah we're with you.p.38
13:16:48.3CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.38
13:16:59.0FOCAM-2okay it says ah fuel lever.p.38
13:17:01.3CACAM-1okay.p.39
13:17:01.7◦CAM[sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine.p.39
13:17:01.8FOCAM-2fire light.p.39
13:17:02.6CACAM-1okay yeah *.p.39
13:17:04.0INTINT-5I'm gonna go tell these pilots up here what we just heard okay, I'm just gonna tell the pilots up here what I heard..p.39
13:17:04.3FOCAM-2it says ah fuel lever at (Captain's) command, off.p.39
13:17:07.4INTINT-6what are you gonna say?p.39
13:17:08.7◦CAMconfirm that's the left.p.39
13:17:10.9INTINT-6she's got the door open up there.p.39
13:17:11.3CACAM-1well now it went out.p.39
13:17:12.6CACAM-1this thing is fallin' apart.p.39
13:17:12.9INTINT-5oh, okay.p.40
13:17:15.3CACAM-1gotta a verser unlocked light got a.p.40
13:17:16.7RDORDO-?[sound similar to knock].p.40
13:17:16.7◦CAM[sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine [sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine.p.40
13:17:19.3FOCAM-2I just got power transfer too.p.40
13:17:19.3CACAM-1now you lost what?p.40
13:17:20.4RDORDO-?[sound similar to electrical transient].p.40
13:17:21.6FOCAM-2do you want me to kill this one?p.40
13:17:23.2RDORDO-?[sound similar to electrical transient].p.40
13:17:23.7CACAM-1yes.p.40
13:17:25.8FOCAM-2oh # I can't even shut it off.p.40
13:17:30.1CAMCAM-?* *.p.41
13:17:32.4FOCAM-2ahh fire handle.p.41
13:17:36.3FOCAM-2captain says to pull.p.41
13:17:37.1◦CAM[sound similar to fire warning bell] fire left engine.p.41
13:17:38.5APRAPRAmerican fourteen if you're on turn right heading two five zero.p.41
13:17:42.1CAMCAM-?* * *.p.41
13:17:43.0CARDO-1two five zero American fourteen hundred.p.41
13:17:44.5CAMCAM-?* * * * *.p.41
13:17:44.6APRAPRAmerican fourteen hundred the airport one o'clock one zero miles when you get established on the heading just advise when you have it in sight.p.41
13:17:50.6CARDO-1American fourteen hundred.p.41
13:17:51.7FOCAM-2all right it blew agent two.p.41
13:17:56.8FOCAM-2I'm gonna get you some bugs.p.42
13:17:59.7FOCAM-2all I gotta worry 'bout is puttin' gear and the flaps that all right?p.42
13:18:04.3CACAM-1say again.p.42
13:18:04.9FOCAM-2gear and the flaps I'll get you some speeds we're gonna be heavy weight but big deal.p.42
13:18:10.4CACAM-1all right.p.42
13:18:12.2FOCAM-2here do whatever you need to do with that and I'll uh.p.42
13:18:13.7APRAPRAmerican fourteen hundred I'm sorry you say airport in sight?p.42
13:18:17.1CAMCAM-?* *.p.42
13:18:17.1CARDO-1negative I didn't say that.p.42
13:18:18.4APRAPRall right American fourteen hundred roger fly heading two five zero.p.42
13:18:18.7FOCAM-2straight out there.p.42
13:18:19.3◦CAM[sound similar to the cockpit door being operated].p.43
13:18:21.7FOCAM-2* * * * we've lost all # power * *.p.43
13:18:21.8FORDO-2two five zero fourteen hundred.p.43
13:18:27.0FOCAM-2this # will not discharge.p.43
13:18:29.8FOCAM-2[sound similar to the cockpit door being operating multiple times] it's not gonna shut.p.43
13:18:30.0CACAM-1* * *.p.43
13:18:30.3FOCAM-2(valves * * eleven).p.43
13:18:34.7FOCAM-2it's that we've lost all power to them [sound similar to the cockpit door being operated] just hold it shut for me [sound similar to the cockpit door being operated].p.43
13:18:37.2INTINT-5yeah.p.43
13:18:38.3INTINT-6what uhm why is the door keep opening up there?p.43
13:18:40.0FOCAM-2come on. I'm not gonna # with the door [sound similar to mechanical bang] #.p.44
13:18:42.0INTINT-5I don't know I didn't know it was.p.44
13:18:44.8INTINT-6do you hear like popping stuff over here on by that engine?p.44
13:18:48.2FOCAM-2can you op- close the door and I'll I'll latch it?p.44
13:18:48.6INTINT-5no.p.44
13:18:49.0INTINT-6I hear like pops and I don't know if it's the toilet or what it is.p.44
13:18:53.0FOCAM-2[sound similar to the cockpit door being operated] * # everything here. [sound similar to the cockpit door being operated] all right * * # with that.p.44
13:18:55.7INTINT-5* * * * * * * * *. ahm you're not gonna use your door I don't believe.p.44
13:18:59.0CACAM-1okay so that's.p.44
13:18:59.9CAMCAM-?all right.p.44
13:19:02.2INTINT-6why? I didn't hear you.p.45
13:19:03.4INTINT-5I don't know I don't know.p.45
13:19:05.3INTINT-6okay.p.45
13:19:05.5CACAM-1I'm not going to # with this thing any more.p.45
13:19:06.4INTINT-5ah okay it could be it could be what they are talking about.p.45
13:19:07.4FOCAM-2*.p.45
13:19:07.6CACAM-1* fired both of the both bottles just give me thirty flaps speed.p.45
13:19:12.8CACAM-1er a no, twenty-eight flap speed.p.45
13:19:12.9INTINT-6yeah, it could be.p.45
13:19:13.1FOCAM-2we're gonna shoot a two thirty-seven.p.45
13:19:14.0INTINT-5yeah.p.45
13:19:16.2INTINT-6okay.p.45
13:19:17.4FOCAM-2and uh eighty six.p.46
13:19:18.8INTINT-6'kay.p.46
13:19:22.0CACAM-1just give me the bottom bug.p.46
13:19:22.4APRAPRAmerican fourteen hundred uh cleared visual approach runway three zero right.p.46
13:19:23.3FOCAM-2uuh.p.46
13:19:24.2◦CAM[low level background sound].p.46
13:19:26.9FORDO-2cleared visual thirty right American uh fourteen hundred.p.46
13:19:29.1CACAM-1where is?p.46
13:19:29.5APRAPRAmerican fourteen hundred if you can give me fuel and souls.p.46
13:19:29.6FOCAM-2# was that?p.46
13:19:32.3FORDO-2uuh we got ah one thirty seven on board four er five crewmember and uhm.p.46
13:19:38.3FORDO-2twenty-one and three on the fuel.p.47
13:19:41.8APRAPRI'm sorry I missed the fuel say again.p.47
13:19:43.8FORDO-2uuh it's about three hours.p.47
13:19:45.4APRAPRthanks.p.47
13:19:46.8CAMCAM-?I'm kidding.p.47
13:19:47.0FOCAM-2uh your flaps twenty eight should be one thirty eight.p.47
13:19:49.9CACAM-1one thirty-eight set just gimme ah.p.47
13:19:53.2FOCAM-2three thirty-seven.p.47
13:19:53.3CACAM-1localizer, localizer pretty * * ah?p.47
13:19:56.6FOCAM-2yup.p.47
13:19:58.2CACAM-1eh let's put the gear down.p.47
13:20:00.5◦CAM[sound similar to landing gear handle being operated].p.47
13:20:01.0FOCAM-2got the runway?p.48
13:20:01.8CACAM-1yup I got it yeah.p.48
13:20:09.9APRAPRAmerican fourteen hundred contact tower one two zero point zero five.p.48
13:20:12.2◦CAM[sound similar to spoiler handle being armed].p.48
13:20:13.1FORDO-2two zero zero five.p.48
13:20:14.0FOCAM-2I got about five * *.p.48
13:20:16.2CAMCAM-?'kay.p.48
13:20:18.7FORDO-2hey tower American five hundred 'bout five out on the visual for thirty left with emergency.p.48
13:20:26.6CAMCAM-?zero zero five.p.48
13:20:30.5FORDO-2tower, American five hundred, five out on the visual thirty uh, right with emergency.p.48
13:20:34.8ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred St. Louis tower runway three zero right, cleared to land. wind three one zero at one three.p.48
13:20:39.8FORDO-2cleared to land thirty right American five hundred.p.49
13:20:42.0FORDO-2fourteen hundred.p.49
13:20:43.5FOCAM-2okay I'm gonna run through some of this other # hydraulic pumps those are all high and on.p.49
13:20:49.0FOCAM-2uhhh altimeters I ain't worrying about it flight instruments bugs.p.49
13:20:50.6ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred I'm assuming you want to be followed down the runway?p.49
13:20:53.2FOCAM-2yeah I guess.p.49
13:20:53.7FORDO-2yeah we're gonna stop straight ahead on the runway.p.49
13:20:55.3FOCAM-2one thirty-eight for the final bug speed.p.49
13:20:55.5ATCTWRokay.p.49
13:20:57.1CACAM-1yup flaps twenty-eight.p.49
13:20:59.5FOCAM-2twenty-eight yeah okay no smoking seatbelt sign. but you already set 'em down correct?p.49
13:21:00.6CAMCAM-?* *.p.50
13:21:03.2CACAM-1give me flaps twenty-three we got the gear down right?p.50
13:21:06.0FOCAM-2yep.p.50
13:21:07.3FOCAM-2your just not going to get anything 'cause you've lost uh, everything here but.p.50
13:21:11.6CACAM-1okay.p.50
13:21:12.0FOCAM-2I ain't got time to # around figure out why.p.50
13:21:14.0CACAM-1yeah I don't either.p.50
13:21:15.4CACAM-1I tried to start the APU but it's not starting as far as I can tell.p.50
13:21:17.9FOCAM-2oh # * not showing ah shouldn't we get this?p.50
13:21:21.3CACAM-1yeah.p.50
13:21:24.1FORDO-2hey tower American fourteen hundred?p.50
13:21:24.3CACAM-1yeah.p.50
13:21:30.7FOCAM-2I don't get # gear either. we're gonna have to manually drop these #.p.51
13:21:31.7ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred go ahead.p.51
13:21:36.1FORDO-2hey tower American fourteen hundred?p.51
13:21:39.9CARDO-1tower American fourteen hundred you see any indication we have our wheels down?p.51
13:21:46.0CAMCAM-?(they're not there) * *.p.51
13:21:47.1ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred uh. the mains appear to be down but I can't I don't there is no nose gear I don't believe there's a nose gear.p.51
13:21:57.2FORDO-2all right we're gonna have to go around then.p.51
13:21:57.5CARDO-1okay.p.51
13:21:58.9CARDO-1we're goin' around I wanna make a right hand pattern.p.51
13:22:01.5FOCAM-2#.p.51
13:22:03.1ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred okay just uh fly runway heading and climb and maintain three thousand and there is no nose gear. ah * appear to be down but no nose gear.p.52
13:22:08.7INTINT-5what'd you need hon?p.52
13:22:09.8INTINT-6you could see the ground.p.52
13:22:11.0INTINT-5yes honey we're almost there.p.52
13:22:12.0CARDO-1oh uh we'll go straight ahead three and uh we're gonna take a block three to four for fourteen hundred.p.52
13:22:12.4INTINT-6do you suppose we had to dump fuel?p.52
13:22:15.4INTINT-5uuhm that could be.p.52
13:22:17.4INTINT-6ah 'cause I bet we went around a little bit to dump fuel we were probably too heavy to land.p.52
13:22:18.6FOCAM-2#.p.52
13:22:20.1CACAM-1# all right uh.p.52
13:22:22.2INTINT-5oh I didn't even think of that that's a good point.p.52
13:22:22.9ATCTWRyeah thank you.p.53
13:22:24.3INTINT-6yeah.p.53
13:22:25.4INTINT-6okay I just wondered if you could see the ground.p.53
13:22:26.1FOCAM-2let me uhm get the book out.p.53
13:22:26.1CACAM-1okay.p.53
13:22:28.0INTINT-5yeah uh we're uhmm getting pretty close.p.53
13:22:28.7CACAM-1call up. call up @ real quick tell her to send @ up here.p.53
13:22:31.1INTINT-6all right.p.53
13:22:32.7INTINT-5*.p.53
13:22:35.0FOCAM-2uuh, # * * * *. @.p.53
13:22:39.4CAMCAM-7yes.p.53
13:22:39.9FOCAM-2can you send @ up here real quick?p.53
13:22:44.5CAMCAM-7what.p.54
13:22:45.0FOCAM-2can you get @ ah other captain up here real quick?p.54
13:22:47.6CAMCAM-7yes.p.54
13:22:50.2FOCAM-2you gotta be # kidding me.p.54
13:22:52.0ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred uuhm say your request.p.54
13:22:52.9CAMCAM-7he's comin'.p.54
13:22:55.3FORDO-2eh yeah we're gonna figure what the heck uhh try to get this nose gear down here.p.54
13:22:59.2ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred roger just for your information there was quite a bit of black uhm I guess soot or whatever on that left engine so I * * the fire was real.p.54
13:22:59.5FOCAM-2is he here?p.54
13:23:01.4INTINT-6yeah.p.54
13:23:01.8INTINT-5she just had the captain go up there to help.p.54
13:23:05.1INTINT-6oh she did?p.55
13:23:06.0◦CAM[sound of several clicks and bangs].p.55
13:23:06.4INTINT-5the the retiree she just had him up there.p.55
13:23:07.6FOCAM-2*can hit the latch okay can't get the # nose gear down now.p.55
13:23:08.6FORDO-2okay.p.55
13:23:09.4ATCTWRfourteen hundred ah, do you prefer to make uh you just go straight out because of the engine? do you wanna make some turns? do you wanna climb? what do you want to do?p.55
13:23:10.0INTINT-6not good.p.55
13:23:10.7◦CAM[sound of mechanical clicks and bangs].p.55
13:23:11.3INTINT-5just just keep me informed.p.55
13:23:13.5CACAM-1I got an A-C cross-tie.p.55
13:23:13.6INTINT-6(eh no kidding).p.56
13:23:14.4◦CAM[sound of mechanical clicks and bangs].p.56
13:23:17.0INTINT-5alright.p.56
13:23:17.7CARDO-1well, we're gonna have to make a uh, turn to the right here just to keep us in the area and uh, we may have to come back to two four and uh, we're gonna have to let you know.p.56
13:23:18.4INTINT-6* * * *.p.56
13:23:23.6INTINT-5yeah.p.56
13:23:23.8INTINT-6I'm I'm getting nervous (when he when he).p.56
13:23:25.2CAMCAM-?* * * * * * [multiple voices].p.56
13:23:25.7INTINT-5I am too.p.56
13:23:26.4INTINT-6when he says the doors that means the ones to not use right?p.56
13:23:26.6ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred go ahead and make a right turn heading zero six zero and climb and maintain three thousand.p.57
13:23:32.0FORDO-2all right right zero six zero and uh it's gonna be extremely slow climb here.p.57
13:23:33.0CACAM-1and I'm ah not climbin'.p.57
13:23:33.2INTINT-5yeah.p.57
13:23:35.7ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred roger.p.57
13:23:37.7FOCAM-2I'll get your flaps up (a little).p.57
13:23:40.7CACAM-1* * * M-C-T (as well and then) * *.p.57
13:23:43.5FOCAM-2yeah it's all dead * * * # everything (in) this side.p.57
13:23:48.1CACAM-1so we're gonna lose the other engine if we're not careful.p.58
13:23:51.0FOCAM-2yup.p.58
13:23:58.3FOCAM-2alright.p.58
13:23:58.5CACAM-1we're gonna have to.p.58
13:24:00.1FOCAM-2you wanna let's see there's no let me ch- check the # gear thing here.p.58
13:24:04.3CACAM-1there's no way to get the nose gear down right?p.58
13:24:05.8FOCAM-2I don't think so.p.58
13:24:07.0CACAM-1we're just have to go back and land 'cause I do- I I can't maintain airspeed.p.58
13:24:11.6CACAM-1* nowp.59
13:24:12.1FOCAM-2you can get the flaps up all the way if you want.p.59
13:24:14.1CACAM-1okay, gimme half.p.59
13:24:15.7CACAM-1just leave the slats out.p.59
13:24:16.2FOCAM-2leave the slats out.p.59
13:24:17.4FOCAM-2while we're on four wer- give me about one forty- five or so * *.p.59
13:24:21.5CACAM-1I don't want to burn up this engine too.p.59
13:24:23.6CACAM-1(tell) * we gotta come back and land now.p.59
13:24:26.8FOCAM-2which one do you wanna take uuh?p.59
13:24:28.7CACAM-1the longest runway.p.59
13:24:30.8FOCAM-2you know eleven is probably the badest the best the new one there?p.59
13:24:36.4FOCAM-2yeah.p.60
13:24:38.2CACAM-1okay.p.60
13:24:39.1CACAM-1okay.p.60
13:24:41.1FOCAM-2thirty left all right.p.60
13:24:47.6FOCAM-2yeah.p.60
13:24:48.6CAMCAM-?the mains are down.p.60
13:24:49.0FOCAM-2mains are down they're stayin'.p.60
13:24:49.1CAMCAM-?yeah.p.61
13:24:50.8CAMCAM-?yeah.p.61
13:24:51.4CACAM-1and I can't hardly turn (us).p.61
13:24:53.8FOCAM-2yeah it.p.61
13:24:59.2FOCAM-2you're ah you know I'm gonna (tell me) * * *.p.61
13:25:01.1CACAM-1yeah.p.61
13:25:01.2CARDO-1hey uh St. Louis American fourteen hundred we're gonna have to give you a block between two and four here.p.61
13:25:06.3ATCTWRblock between two and four right to sixty for American fourteen hundred please.p.61
13:25:09.7CARDO-1okay and we're gonna have to have thirty left.p.61
13:25:12.0ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred plan runway three zero left.p.61
13:25:15.0CARDO-1thanks.p.62
13:25:15.6FOCAM-2* * *.p.62
13:25:15.9CACAM-1what are the winds.p.62
13:25:17.4CARDO-1and uh winds still calm?p.62
13:25:19.4ATCTWRwinds are c- well actually winds are three three zero at one three.p.62
13:25:23.5CARDO-1okay and uh, you keep us coming around for thirty left.p.62
13:25:26.4CACAM-1* not unless we have to.p.62
13:25:29.7ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred turn right heading zero niner zero.p.62
13:25:32.5FORDO-2right zero nine zero fourteen hundred.p.62
13:25:36.3FOCAM-2gear handle * *.p.63
13:25:39.2CACAM-1I don't know if it works.p.63
13:25:50.1FOCAM-2(okay five) I'm gonna do the I'm go in and do the (landing) gear thing here for you just take a look at that.p.63
13:25:54.4CACAM-1I can't I can't get this sucker to climb.p.63
13:26:02.9CAMCAM-?* *.p.63
13:26:03.7FOCAM-2how the # did that happen?p.63
13:26:05.9CACAM-1I don't know.p.63
13:26:12.4CACAM-1* * * *.p.63
13:26:13.8FOCAM-2all right.p.64
13:26:14.7ATCTWRfourteen hundred fly heading one one zero vector downwind runway three zero left.p.64
13:26:19.9CARDO-1ah yes sir one one zero fourteen hundred.p.64
13:26:21.9CAMCAM-?ahh.p.64
13:26:25.1FOCAM-2emergency gear extension accomplish.p.64
13:26:25.2ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred what's your heading now sir?p.64
13:26:27.7CARDO-1we're turning to a heading of one one zero right now.p.64
13:26:30.2CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.64
13:26:30.5ATCTWRall right thank you.p.64
13:26:32.2◦CAM[increased wideband background noise consistent with landing gear extension].p.64
13:26:40.1CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.65
13:26:41.9FORDO-2got a main uh nose gear down for American fourteen hundred now?p.65
13:26:47.1ATCTWRwe're looking.p.65
13:26:57.6CARDO-1and uh just in case we haven’t said these words yet American fourteen hundred we are declaring an emergency.p.65
13:27:02.0FOCAM-2yeah, I told **.p.65
13:27:02.4ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred understand that and from where we are right now it looks like the nose gear might be down as you get ah abeam the tower we'll take another look at it.p.65
13:27:09.7FORDO-2okay yeah it uh indicating now we don't have any indications but uh the noise appears that it's down.p.65
13:27:19.5CAMCAM-?okay.p.65
13:27:20.3FOCAM-2anything you can think of on that piece of #?p.65
13:27:25.8FOCAM-2no we got, we've got no # hydraulic pressure on the right side for some odd reason.p.66
13:27:32.6FOCAM-2that engine's runnin'.p.66
13:27:33.3CACAM-1totally # up, we've got no left engine, we've got no right hydraulic pressure on the right side, we don't have any hydraulics on the left side.p.66
13:27:39.4FOCAM-2well you know what? this might be dead because.p.66
13:27:41.2ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred uh it looks like all three gear are down there's a possibility that the gear doors on the mains are still hanging we can't tell from here.p.66
13:27:42.1CACAM-1oh, yeah.p.66
13:27:49.1FORDO-2yeah they probably are uh due to electronic sequencing so those will drag and uhm that isn't really gonna matter but uh to make sure got all the wheels down.p.66
13:27:57.0ATCTWRyes sir we see three uh three appear to be down and in place.p.67
13:27:59.9FORDO-2super thanks.p.67
13:28:02.0FOCAM-2I don't re-stow this lever do I?p.67
13:28:03.6CACAM-1no. CAM-J no.p.67
13:28:04.0FOCAM-2okay.p.67
13:28:07.2FOCAM-2okay so one eighty-four you're good on that I let's see if this fails in the.p.67
13:28:11.7ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred traffic two o'clock four miles northwest bound twenty-four hundred descending's a company MD-80 we've moved him over to two nine you can start your base leg at your discretion and uh let me know when you start that base leg for thirty left.p.67
13:28:24.4FORDO-2okay we'll let you know and uh traffic there about what three o'clock?p.67
13:28:28.2ATCTWReh yeah traffic's at two thirty now uh just over the outer ma- just inside the outer marker he's lined up for two nine so it won't be a problem for you.p.68
13:28:35.0FORDO-2okay.p.68
13:28:36.5CACAM-1say again.p.68
13:28:38.8CACAM-1no.p.68
13:28:40.6CACAM-1yeah go ahead and tell 'em what you can.p.68
13:28:43.2FOCAM-2uuh.p.68
13:28:45.2FOCAM-2depends on what you what you wanna do here you're the uh.p.68
13:28:48.8CACAM-1we close enough (we close in)?p.68
13:28:50.0FOCAM-2uum, I might swing it outp.69
13:28:58.7CAMCAM-?* *.p.69
13:28:59.2FOCAM-2you're good no no that's you're fine put it right here.p.69
13:29:06.7FORDO-2American fourteen hundred we are startin' a base leg at this time for thirty left.p.69
13:29:11.3ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred you're cleared to land runway three zero left there's an RJ on the runway he's rolling now wind zero correction three zero zero and niner gusting one six.p.69
13:29:20.4FORDO-2good thanks cleared to land thirty left American fourteen hundred.p.70
13:29:26.2FOCAM-2that's on.p.70
13:29:29.8◦CAMauto-pilot [electronic alert and voice].p.70
13:29:30.8FOCAM-2* * you got the power there now, don't you?p.70
13:29:33.8CAMCAM-?where's the ah.p.70
13:29:36.3CAMCAM-?* *.p.70
13:29:42.3FOCAM-2you're good, here.p.70
13:29:44.1◦CAM[occasional traces of voice energy, completely unintelligible].p.70
13:30:07.0ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred still cleared to land three zero left you'll see a Southwest jet crossing the approach end he's heading for the parallel runway the trucks are set up for three zero left wind three one zero one niner gusting one five.p.70
13:30:16.0◦CAMaltitude [electronic alert and voice].p.70
13:30:18.8FORDO-2cleared to land thirty left American fourteen hundred.p.71
13:30:21.9CAMCAM-7okay.p.71
13:30:26.1CACAM-1what's my bottom bug?p.71
13:30:27.6FOCAM-2you're fine.p.71
13:30:28.5FOCAM-2you had ah, one thirty, I gotta get you set up here.p.71
13:30:30.5◦CAMone thousand glide slope glide slope [electronic voice].p.71
13:30:38.9FOCAM-2you got uuh * * *.p.71
13:30:42.7FOCAM-2yep keep 'er * around there.p.71
13:30:51.7ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred did you wanna be followed down the runway?p.71
13:30:54.3FORDO-2yeah affirmative.p.72
13:30:56.1CACAM-1* * fifteen * * *?p.72
13:30:57.5FOCAM-2fifteen.p.72
13:30:57.7ATCTWRunderstand.p.72
13:30:59.5FOCAM-2got a lot of speed *.p.72
13:31:03.9CACAM-1okay, flaps twenty-eight.p.72
13:31:07.9FOCAM-2okay well we got down three green now.p.72
13:31:09.4CAMCAM-?got you down three green.p.72
13:31:09.8FOCAM-2gonna get ah spoiler lever.p.72
13:31:11.9CACAM-1armed.p.72
13:31:12.3FOCAM-2arm flap slats.p.72
13:31:13.8CACAM-1okay I got twenty-eight twenty-eight land.p.72
13:31:16.4FOCAM-2twenty land.p.72
13:31:16.8CACAM-1(three).p.73
13:31:17.6CAMCAM-?do we have a split flap?p.73
13:31:19.8FOCAM-2uuh no they're just they're just not working.p.73
13:31:21.4CACAM-1yeah they are.p.73
13:31:23.3FOCAM-2(lost all) # power (to it I guess).p.73
13:31:26.4FOCAM-2I don't know.p.73
13:31:27.7FOCAM-2* there goes that.p.73
13:31:30.0CAMCAM-?*.p.73
13:31:33.1FOCAM-2uuh well we're landing checklist complete so.p.73
13:31:37.4CACAM-1landing.p.73
13:31:38.1CAMCAM-?* * * * *. [multiple voices].p.73
13:31:42.8◦CAMfive hundred [electronic voice].p.73
13:31:44.0FOCAM-2well you're about twenty hot * chop that throttle there and we're going to roll way down to the end.p.74
13:31:52.6FOCAM-2(float like) * *.p.74
13:31:54.7◦CAMtoo low, terrain [electronic voice].p.74
13:31:57.0CACAM-1turn that off.p.74
13:31:58.1CAMCAM-?*.p.74
13:31:59.7◦CAMtoo low, terrain. too low, terrain. too low, terrain. too low, terrain. too low, terrain. [electronic voice].p.74
13:32:09.7◦CAMthirty [electronic voice].p.74
13:32:10.6◦CAMtwenty [electronic voice].p.74
13:32:11.9◦CAMten [electronic voice].p.74
13:32:12.2◦CAM[sound consistent with aircraft touch down on runway]p.74
13:32:16.7FOCAM-2* have deployed.p.75
13:32:19.7◦CAM[sound consistent with nose gear contacting runway]p.75
13:32:29.4FOCAM-2pull her outta reverse, stand on the brakes.p.75
13:32:45.2CACAM-1'kay tell the flight attendants to stay in their seats.p.75
13:32:46.8ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred did you want to stop on the runway?p.75
13:32:49.1CAMCAM-?* * *.p.75
13:32:49.1◦CAM[sound of passengers clapping]p.75
13:32:49.2FORDO-2yeah we're gonna stop here.p.75
13:32:51.0ATCTWRall right let me know well they got the trucks commin' up from behind you let me know if you need anything.p.75
13:32:54.7FORDO-2all right.p.75
13:32:55.3FORDO-2yeah they're gonna have to take check out that left engine for us to make sure there's any uh. we're still showing * fire indication up here.p.76
13:32:56.2CAMCAM-?*.p.76
13:33:01.1CACAM-1nope, I don't think so.p.76
13:33:01.1ATCTWRunderstand.p.76
13:33:03.9CACAM-1nope.p.76
13:33:05.2FOCAM-2brakes still workin' 'er?p.76
13:33:06.4CACAM-1yeah we're gonna roll up behind 'em here so, so I guess tow us back.p.76
13:33:16.3CAMCAM-?* * * * * *.p.77
13:33:19.3ATCTWRAmerican fourteen hundred when you get just a moment change to ground twenty-one nine and uh he'll talk to you.p.77
13:33:26.3CAMCAM-?two lights * * *.p.77
13:33:32.7CAMCAM-?* * * * *.p.77
13:33:32.8FORDO-2and ground American fourteen hundred we're up on twenty one nine.p.77
13:33:35.5ATCGNDthank you and I got the fire trucks if you need to talk to 'em, also on this frequency.p.77
13:33:39.1FORDO-2thank you.p.77
13:33:43.3RDORDO-?*.p.77
13:33:45.5CARDO-1and this is American fourteen hundred do you read?p.77
13:33:48.9FOCAM-2* * * * *.p.77
13:33:49.7CARDO-1American fourteen hundred uh to- ah rescue crew.p.77
13:33:58.0FOCAM-2[sound of laughter]p.78
13:34:08.3FOCAM-2you gotta be # me.p.78
13:34:09.9CARDO-1uh roger copy that uh.p.78
13:34:12.1CACAM-1(you) fire the other bottle er * *?p.78
13:34:13.9FOCAM-2(think they're) both gone I shot 'em both.p.78
13:34:15.8CARDO-1de-.p.78
13:34:29.7CARDO-1okay uh rescue this is uh American fourteen hundred you say you got still got some fire in the left engine?p.78
13:34:40.1CARDO-1ground American fourteen hundred.p.78
13:34:41.8ATCGNDtruck forty-two the aircraft's askin' is there still fire in that engine?p.79
13:34:48.0ATCGNDtruck fourteen hundred yeah they say there is.p.79
13:34:50.4CARDO-1all right are they gonnaowa spray it?p.79
13:34:53.0ATCGNDthey're working on it now I believe.p.79
13:34:54.8CARDO-1okay.p.79
13:34:59.9FOCAM-2no place for anybody to go.p.79
13:35:01.4ATCGNDthank you.p.79
13:35:02.8CACAM-1I think we're probably gonna need to be towed off 'cause I don't have any nose wheel steering we're down to one engine.p.79
13:35:04.9CAMCAM-?*.p.79
13:35:11.3CARDO-1hey ground when uh American fourteen hundred when they get this thing all ah secured here we're gonna have to be towed back ah I don't have any nose wheel steering or anything.p.80
13:35:19.9ATCGNDokay thank you.p.80
13:35:20.1CAMCAM-?* the engines * * it's still on fire.p.80
13:35:23.0CACAM-1okay you gonna spray it?p.80
13:35:23.4ATCGNDAmerican fourteen hundred are you going to be evacuating the aircraft?p.80
13:35:24.3CAMCAM-9I gotta put it out.p.80
13:35:25.2CACAM-1okay.p.80
13:35:25.9FORDO-2uuh no there's nowhere for anybody to go we've the guys got a handle on it right now they're gonna shoot it for us.p.80
13:35:31.1ATCGNDokay.p.80
13:35:32.2FOCAM-2we don't want to get everybody off here.p.80
13:35:33.4CACAM-1nop.81
13:35:33.9FOCAM-2there's no where for them to go *.p.81
13:35:35.3ATCGNDthank you.p.81
13:35:39.9FOCAM-2sweet.p.81
13:35:50.6FOCAM-2* football team coming in.p.81
13:35:52.9FOCAM-2he just said he had to be back before nine fifty- nine tonight.p.81
13:35:55.5CAMCAM-?*.p.81
13:35:59.3FOCAM-2yeah # just went whack-a-doodle on us *.p.81
13:36:02.0CAMCAM-?* *. [multiple voices].p.82
13:36:03.6CACAM-1we had a left start valve open light.p.82
13:36:06.2CACAM-1after we got airborne.p.82
13:36:07.8CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.82
13:36:09.5CACAM-1start valve open light.p.82
13:36:11.0CACAM-1now the thrust reverser was that.p.82
13:36:13.4CACAM-1or is it the valve indication.p.82
13:36:14.1FOCAM-2that came on too.p.82
13:36:15.7CACAM-1we had all kinds of # goin' on there.p.82
13:36:17.2FOCAM-2you had that before you had here comes that came on and once all the # came on.p.82
13:36:17.3CACAM-1* * * electricity went away uh you know * I uh st- started the APU but it didn't come on line thatp.83
13:36:17.3ACACcross-tie lockout goin' and (you know like) # I'm like baffled.p.83
13:36:31.1CAMCAM-?*.p.83
13:36:32.4FOCAM-2then I, you know you got too much # at one thing * *.p.83
13:36:42.5CACAM-1did you say something to the people?p.83
13:36:46.6FOCAM-2extra pay in this for you.p.83
13:36:49.9FOCAM-2@ going to be waiting for you when you get *.p.83
13:36:51.4CACAM-1@ I appreciate you coming up here and helpin' out.p.83
13:36:52.8FOCAM-2yeah.p.84
13:36:56.5FOCAM-2# yeah I * * * no * [sound of laughter].p.84
13:37:01.7FOCAM-2did I tell you this # always always happens to me?p.84
13:37:04.0CACAM-1no remind me to put you on my do not fly list.p.84
13:37:08.6FOCAM-2* * * * talkin' to me * *.p.84
13:37:08.8CAMCAM-?* *.p.84
13:37:11.7CARDO-1hey ground American fourteen hundred.p.84
13:37:16.8ATCGNDAmerican fourteen hundred go ahead.p.84
13:37:18.2CARDO-1yes sir and ah was just wondering does anybody on the rescue crew ah are they monitoring this frequency 'cause they're not talking to me?p.84
13:37:24.6ATCGNDthey should be.p.84
13:37:29.6CAMCAM-9think you got smoke inside?p.85
13:37:31.6CACAM-1no is there * there no smoke inside?p.85
13:37:34.6CARDO-1say again.p.85
13:37:36.9CAMCAM-?(now).p.85
13:37:37.2CARDO-1yeah go ahead.p.85
13:37:39.7CAMCAM-?nope.p.85
13:37:40.5CACAM-1no, no smoke inside.p.85
13:37:40.6CARDO-1are you uh you guys spray that left engine already for us?p.85
13:37:42.1CAMCAM-9hey we, you're basically out.p.85
13:37:45.1CACAM-1okay.p.86
13:37:45.3CAMCAM-9everything's good.p.86
13:37:45.4CARDO-1super.p.86
13:37:46.5CACAM-1okay.p.86
13:37:47.6CAMCAM-9(put) a little water on it that’s it.p.86
13:37:49.8CACAM-1okay we think we can taxi in safely?p.86
13:37:52.4CAMCAM-?* @.p.86
13:37:52.8CACAM-1can we taxi in safely then?p.86
13:37:54.8CAMCAM-9yeah we're gonna follow ya.p.86
13:37:56.4FOCAM-2(we're) gonna have to get a tug though.p.87
13:37:56.8ATCGNDcross two four.p.87
13:37:57.8CACAM-1okay.p.87
13:38:00.2CACAM-1* * * * nose wheel steering.p.87
13:38:00.9CAMCAM-?* * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.87
13:38:01.9FOCAM-2I think you lose it but you lose it when we do that though don't you?p.87
13:38:04.7FOCAM-2nose wheel steering.p.87
13:38:06.0CAMCAM-?*. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.87
13:38:07.7CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.88
13:38:09.1FOCAM-2it's all that system # I that don't remember.p.88
13:38:13.2FOCAM-2I'll uh * *.p.88
13:38:13.9CACAM-1* * * all right let's let's uh, let- let's at least at least taxi clear.p.88
13:38:18.3CACAM-1but I don't know where they want us to park 'cause I don't think I have any nose wheel steering in here.p.88
13:38:22.6FORDO-2hey operation ah operation America ah fourteen hundred.p.88
13:38:24.9ATCGNDthank you.p.88
13:38:29.7CARDO-1ground American uh fourteen hundred.p.88
13:38:32.1ATCGNDAmerican fourteen hundred go ahead.p.88
13:38:34.2CARDO-1sir uh they say the fire's out uh we're gonna taxi clear uhm but I don't have nose wheel steering we're gonna have to probably park someplace ah off the gate uh and uh uh not- we're checking with our OPS now what they want us wher- theyr- aw where they want us to go.p.89
13:38:34.2FORDO-2yeah uhm we're down here at the end of thirty left and ah I think we're going to be able to taxi clear but ah we don't have any nose wheel steering so they're gonna have to have a tug * * out.p.89
13:38:48.1ATCGNDokay understand I was- understand I believe they're bringing a tug out to you.p.89
13:38:52.1CARDO-1oh they are bringing a tug out?p.89
13:38:53.7ATCGNDyes they are and I believe they've got some vans * * ready for you if you want eh evacuate that aircraft also, right there off to your left you can see 'em.p.89
13:38:55.6FOCAM-2huh.p.90
13:38:56.3FORDO-2they didn't call you huh? ahm yeah we're * on the ground had an engine ah left engine fire and a multitude of other failures and ah we're on the ground now they've got it all * * uhm and ah were gonna taxi * * Victor Charlie * * * .p.90
13:39:00.1CARDO-1no I don't think there's any need to evacuate the airplane I see the vans uhm but if uh you see the tug coming out?p.90
13:39:08.0ATCGNDno let me call and find out what they're planning on doing to but the * said * * * have a tug come out.p.90
13:39:12.8CARDO-1okay 'cause I think I can get clear of the runway uh but I ah don't really wanna try taxiing into a gate without nose wheel steering.p.90
13:39:20.5ATCGNDokay I understand that uhm comm center ground are you with me?p.91
13:39:21.7FORDO-2ahh we really didn't have any time to speak to anybody but I'll give them a call, you know we didn't even have any-p.91
13:39:28.8ATCGNDokay so * me just go ahead and taxi him off the runway then?p.91
13:39:31.8CACAM-1so we * even have any hydraulics.p.91
13:39:33.7ATCGNDokay American fourteen hundred you're discretion you go ahead and taxi off the runway uh you do have a lot of vehicles still around you tho-.p.91
13:39:34.1CACAM-1you think we can safely taxi off the runway or should we stay here?p.92
13:39:35.7CAMCAM-?* * * * * *. [multiple voices].p.92
13:39:36.5CAMCAM-?stay here?p.92
13:39:37.5FOCAM-2let him tow it off.p.92
13:39:39.8CARDO-1okay we uh uh ground uh American fourteen hundred uh upon further review here we think probably we're smarter to just wait and let 'em tow us so we're not sure we have enough hydraulic pressure to hold the gear up.p.92
13:39:43.1CAMCAM-?* * * * * * (over center lock) * *. [multiple voices].p.92
13:39:47.8FOCAM-2(#it they just want you to tow it *).p.92
13:39:50.8ATCGNDokay eh com center you copy that?p.92
13:39:51.8FORDO-2yeah I don't know if you copy just what's goin' on uhm went back we had a left engine fire indication * * fire we had gotten the fire out and one of the mult- multitude of problems one of the things is there are no both hydraulics are out we are on thirty left we gonna need someone to pin and pin the gear and send a tug out to pull us * *.p.93
13:40:10.4ATCGNDcar nineteen go ahead.p.93
13:40:15.5ATCGNDyeah he don't know if he has enough hydraulics to ah steer that think so he wou- re- he would like to be towed off the runway.p.93
13:40:18.3FORDO-2okay.p.93
13:40:21.7FOCAM-2* * * do they have * things goin' on they're worried about what you know. # it.p.94
13:40:27.2ATCGNDokay thank you.p.94
13:40:27.6FOCAM-2we got some A-C goin' on. that's cool.p.94
13:40:37.2CACAM-1yeah.p.94
13:40:38.6CACAM-1no *.p.94
13:40:40.0CAPA-1okay folks this is captain @ speaking ahm we have ah things under control here for the most part ah they are gonna to bring a tug out to the ah runway here to tow us off the runway ah hydraulic ah pressure is gone and ah we don't really have any steering capability right now the safest thing to do is tow the airplane in ahm we're talkin' to operations ah to see where they're gonna put us but ah the rescue people have ah secured ah the airplane and everything is good on the outside so ah just be a couple of minutes here I think before we ah standby.p.95
13:40:40.2FOCAM-2# * * *.p.95
13:40:58.9FOCAM-2well that's comin' up.p.95
13:41:01.2FOCAM-2* * * *.p.95
13:41:08.0FOCAM-2* like ah * * then I couldn't even shut this * * * and shut fuel *.p.95
13:41:16.8CAMCAM-?(yeah like).p.95
13:41:17.6FOCAM-2pull the fire handle couldn't couldn't rotate it.p.96
13:41:22.2FOCAM-2* I don't know what * * really * this this is it * * * (release) and then couldn't even get couldn't get it to ah go any further than that * * push it on down.p.96
13:41:27.1CACAM-1* come on?p.96
13:41:31.4CACAM-1do you wanna come on board?p.96
13:41:37.3CACAM-1up here okay.p.96
13:41:39.4ATCGNDcar nineteen ground.p.96
13:41:41.1CACAM-1fire department's coming on board so * * * *.p.96
13:41:42.9FOCAM-2* * she get that (out) the door there.p.97
13:41:43.4ATCGNDyeah we just called ah talked to American they said the tug is on it's way.p.97
13:41:46.9CARDO-1okay thank you I guess fire department wants to come on board they're gonna ah come on the airplane.p.97
13:41:52.1ATCGND'kay I got about five airc- or five people callin' I was lookin' for car nineteen on that one did you copy that car nineteen?p.97
13:41:54.1FOCAM-2eh we're on the clock.p.97
13:41:60.0ATCGNDthank you who else's callin' me?p.97
13:42:02.7CAMCAM-7okay it's done.p.97
13:42:04.1ATCGNDwho else is callin' ground on point niner?p.97
13:42:04.5CAMCAM-?*.p.98
13:42:08.0FOCAM-2(not) sure why this (lights) still on here.p.98
13:42:11.4CACAM-1yeah they said the fire's out.p.98
13:42:12.4FOCAM-2'kay.p.98
13:42:15.9CACAM-1ahm try the loops switch.p.98
13:42:23.1◦CAMfire right engine [electronic voice and alarm] fire right engine [electronic voice and alarm].p.98
13:42:24.8FOCAM-2well (what about the) see that's what we initially got was the ah well when everything started going crazy we got a loop light and then...p.98
13:42:34.6CACAM-1yeah.p.98
13:42:34.8FOCAM-2...right after that this kicked in I'm like well okay maybe its a loop but then the fire bell started going off and then that's when we.p.98
13:42:41.6CACAM-1I never did look at the EGT. saw the fire saw that big red light and that's all I. I don't ah know what it was either.p.99
13:42:53.1◦CAM[unintelligible background voices].p.99
13:43:06.8CACAM-1did the did they disarm the door?p.99
13:43:08.0FOCAM-2yeah.p.99
13:43:08.8CAMCAM-?*.p.99
13:43:11.4FOCAM-2huh great job man.p.99
13:43:13.3CACAM-1* say couldn't ah done it withoutchya.p.99
13:43:14.5FOCAM-2yeah [sound of laughter].p.99
13:43:16.4CACAM-1* #.p.99
13:43:19.6CAINT-1everyone needs to remain in their seats with their seatbelts fastened and please keep all of your carry on items stowed.p.100
13:43:28.4CAPA-1ah folks this is captain @ the ah rescue crew just said they wanted to come on board and check things out inside ah they're gonna be comin'; up on the ah front door here of the left side ah.p.100
13:43:33.7CAMCAM-?* * *.p.100
13:43:37.1CAMCAM-?* * *.p.100
13:43:39.0ATCGNDcar nineteen ground.p.100
13:43:42.6ATCGNDokay do you to swing- * go arou- ba ah run down ah thirty left see if there's any debris on that runway at the end?p.100
13:43:44.2FOCAM-2* didya get that whisky yet?p.101
13:43:46.4CAMCAM-7yeah I got it for ya.p.101
13:43:47.7CACAM-1what's the brake temperature.p.101
13:43:51.6CACAM-1it doesn't doesn't matter I don't I don't guess I have anything uh?p.101
13:43:54.4ATCGNDokay.p.101
13:43:55.8CACAM-1I'm holdin' these but they're probably just wasting my time.p.101
13:43:58.1FOCAM-2he chocked ya too so that was the ah uhm first guy came out but.p.101
13:44:03.6ATCGNDcar nineteen go ahead.p.102
13:44:05.3FOCAM-2yeah I don't, I mean he's still got, * * out on that block us out on that eh eh, according to that.p.102
13:44:08.1◦CAM[sound of double chime].p.102
13:44:11.8ATCGNDokay yeah we got ah I believe they got thirty left and two four right now shut down also.p.102
13:44:13.8CAMCAM-?* * * * (come on back).p.102
13:44:15.6INTINT-7@.p.102
13:44:16.3INTINT-5hey this is * is * any way they can use their cell phones?p.102
13:44:19.9INTINT-7 ahm ah are I don't just a minute I'll ask thos- guys are comin' on.p.102
13:44:21.3CAMCAM-?I don't * * double check before I *.p.103
13:44:21.7CACAM-1(hi there).p.103
13:44:22.3CAMCAM-?'kay.p.103
13:44:22.4INTINT-5 oh okay.p.103
13:44:23.0CACAM-1* * * * *?p.103
13:44:23.4FOCAM-2Thanks @.p.103
13:44:23.6INTINT-5 okay I'll tell 'em.p.103
13:44:24.8INTINT-6 can they use their cell phones they wanna know. cell phones.p.103
13:44:28.0CAMCAM-?(cell phone)? [multiple voices].p.103
13:44:28.9FOCAM-2yeah.p.103
13:44:29.0INTINT-7 yeah they use *cell phones.p.103
13:44:33.5FOCAM-2[sound of laughter] what left we have.p.104
13:44:35.2◦CAM[sound of double chime].p.104
13:44:38.2CACAM-1that was a good catch though, * * nose gear.p.104
13:44:39.8FOCAM-2* * *.p.104
13:44:40.3INTINT-6 this is @.p.104
13:44:40.8INTINT-7 yes they can use their cell phones.p.104
13:44:41.5FOCAM-2well I didn't e- I'm like seemed awfully quiet that's the only way.p.104
13:44:42.1INTINT-6 okay thank's, bye.p.104
13:44:45.9CACAM-1we're halfway down final the first time and he's goin' oh # shouldn't that be up? *I'm goin'.p.104
13:44:51.1FOCAM-2# #.p.104
13:44:53.3FOCAM-2but that that # all mechanical why the # would that stick up?p.105
13:44:58.2CACAM-1I don't know.p.105
13:44:58.3FOCAM-2there’s nothin' electronic in the-.p.105
13:45:00.6CACAM-1* * * hydraulic unlocks.p.105
13:45:00.6FOCAM-2well other than.p.105
13:45:00.6CAMCAM-?* * *.p.105
13:45:02.6CAMCAM-?* *?p.105
13:45:03.5CACAM-1no no you're right it's a mechanical lock.p.105
13:45:04.4FOCAM-2it's just a mechanical uplock and it it hydraulically drops but.p.105
13:45:10.5FOCAM-2he had.p.105
13:45:11.1FOCAM-2he said nothin' was down. gear doors were * draggin' too.p.105
13:45:12.4CACAM-1so when this thing * * * when you (cut) this and the left engine shut down so didn't even get follow any checklists like we're supposed to you know.p.106
13:45:20.9CACAM-1I'm just like keep this this thing flyin'.p.106
13:45:24.8FOCAM-2yeah * like bring it around and land it you know get what # you can get done and then, course we'd a been down quicker if it was.p.106
13:45:31.9FOCAM-2ah you got 'er do an overweight landing.p.106
13:45:37.7FOCAM-2you can punch me any time * * just don't hit my shoulder.p.106
13:45:41.4FOCAM-2I just had I broke my collarbone in May and had it screwed back together so it's just a little sore right there.p.106
13:45:52.3FOCAM-2I suppose now we're gonna have to debrief all this #.p.106
13:45:52.4CACAM-1* * *.p.107
13:46:00.5FOCAM-2yup.p.107
13:46:02.0◦CAM[sound of multiple bells].p.107
13:46:05.5CACAM-1that's probably the ACARS wants your in fuel.p.107
13:46:06.4FOCAM-2ah, oh missing arrival fuel.p.107
13:46:15.9◦CAM* * * * *. [multiple voices].p.107
13:46:20.6FOCAM-2(we had) plenty of fuel.p.107
13:46:23.6CACAM-1those guys did not. all (I) had to figure is they did not make sure that start valve was, (set).p.107
13:46:29.0FOCAM-2that would be my only indication that they didn't have it fully seated. 'cause it was but it was cycling on and off. I * this was goin' on and off and a bunch of different * * * * *.p.107
13:46:30.8CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.107
13:46:36.9INTINT-6 yes.p.108
13:46:38.0CACAM-1alright everything good?p.108
13:46:38.1INTINT-5 the fireman said ah on the flyby we were on fire, half of the engine is gone.p.108
13:46:40.4FOCAM-2thank you.p.108
13:46:41.6CAMCAM-?we got it captain.p.108
13:46:43.2CACAM-1okay.p.108
13:46:46.8INTINT-6 oh my #. ah.p.108
13:46:47.7CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.108
13:46:50.0INTINT-5 just though you might wanna know.p.108
13:46:51.7INTINT-6 thank you honey. thank you thank you.p.108
13:46:53.0INTINT-5 [sound of laugher] okay.p.108
13:46:53.0FORDO-2* * * * * *.p.108
13:46:53.8CAMCAM-?* (exit) * fire * so [sound of laugher].p.109
13:46:55.6ATCOPSah we're waitin' on the city they don't move too fast around here we- we're got people standin' by ready to come out there but we have to wait for the- them to escort us.p.109
13:47:03.2FORDO-2okay I'll talk to the ground guys see if ma- they can ah nudge them along a little bit.p.109
13:47:06.0CACAM-1alright.p.109
13:47:06.4CAMCAM-?and the engine is completely out.p.109
13:47:07.2ATCOPSokay.p.109
13:47:08.3FOCAM-2super.p.109
13:47:09.1CACAM-1okay so where was the fire front end front section aft section?p.109
13:47:11.0FORDO-2hey ground American fourteen hundred.p.109
13:47:12.7ATCGNDgo ahead American fourteen hundred.p.110
13:47:14.2FORDO-2yeah er ah maintenance guys are all set standin' by to send out a tug and to ah pin us but ah I guess they're havin' a delay with the city to get clearance to come out here?p.110
13:47:20.3CACAM-1and you can see it from the rear you cannot see it from the front?p.110
13:47:23.8ATCGND* the city's waiting for you guys at Charlie pad.p.110
13:47:26.5FORDO-2oh I guess everybody's waitin' for everybody ahh is there somebody else they should call?p.110
13:47:28.4CACAM-1okay I see alright.p.110
13:47:30.9CACAM-1yeah ah huh alright.p.110
13:47:32.1FORDO-2er is there ah someone in the tower can give our guys a shout and let them know they're clear to come out?p.111
13:47:34.4CAMCAM-?* * *. [multiple voices].p.111
13:47:36.9CACAM-1thanks guys.p.111
13:47:37.0ATCGNDah * * * car nineteen ground you with me still?p.111
13:47:37.5CACAM-1thanks.p.111
13:47:38.7CAMCAM-?* * *. [multiple voices].p.111
13:47:39.6CAMCAM-?* * * * (heard a pop) * *.p.111
13:47:43.4CAMCAM-?okay.p.111
13:47:44.0CAMCAM-?I don't know * * (in there) or not.p.111
13:47:47.2ATCGNDyeah he was sayin' that they guess ah they're waitin' for you clearance from you guys I don't understand that either though.p.112
13:47:49.1CAMCAM-?right.p.112
13:47:49.5CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.112
13:47:51.4CAMCAM-?(that's) okay.p.112
13:47:52.1CAMCAM-?alright we'll * the guys we.p.112
13:47:55.3FORDO-2alright so we just we needed them to find a tug then is that what it is?p.112
13:47:55.5FOCAM-2we really wanna.p.112
13:47:55.8FOCAM-2well we just we needed them to find a tug then is that what it was?p.112
13:47:58.0CACAM-1I don't really wanna let these people out right here in the middle of the runway.p.113
13:48:03.4ATCGNDokay.p.113
13:48:04.0CAMCAM-?*.p.113
13:48:04.3FOCAM-2tug's on the way.p.113
13:48:04.6CACAM-1so we probably just cheated death by that much I think.p.113
13:48:07.4FOCAM-2so.p.113
13:48:07.9FOCAM-2what happened to it?p.113
13:48:08.9CACAM-1ah the engine was burned through it burned *.p.113
13:48:10.8CACAM-1cowling burned.p.113
13:48:12.3CAMCAM-?(burned through the cowling).p.114
13:48:14.0CACAM-1* * *.p.114
13:48:17.2CAMCAM-?* * *.p.114
13:48:29.5CAMCAM-?[sound of laughter].p.114
13:48:29.6CACAM-1but what I was I was gettin' a little worried because it seemed like I was having to use more and more aileron to keep the the wing up and ah I wasn't climbin' and 'course I had the gear down so you know I'm not gonna climb.p.114
13:48:31.5INTINT-6ladies and gentlemen we do need you in your seats please until we ahm taxi over to the gate thank you so much for your patience.p.114
13:48:39.6CAMCAM-?yeah.p.114
13:48:41.8FOCAM-2yeah that's.p.115
13:48:42.8CACAM-1you know how you know and no you know no no guidance from this thing so I don't know how much can I how much can I do to the engine.p.115
13:48:43.4ATCGNDand car nineteen ah the tug is just comin' er ah by the base of the tower right now looks like.p.115
13:48:54.3CACAM-1yeah yeah but I didn't wanna use up.p.115
13:48:56.8FOCAM-2use up the only good one.p.115
13:48:58.3CAMCAM-?*.p.115
13:48:58.3CAMCAM-?[sound of laughter].p.115
13:48:58.3CAMCAM-?* * *.p.115
13:48:59.8FOCAM-2well now we're down to APU power. [sound of laughter].p.116
13:49:02.5CACAM-1okay now we're a glider.p.116
13:49:04.9FOCAM-2there's a field right over here too * * * nice long runway but still you never woulda made it not with the gear down you (wouldn't make that).p.116
13:49:22.7CACAM-1but basically pullin' up that thing is what got the nose gear down.p.116
13:49:25.1FOCAM-2yeah, which I do-I don't I'm gonna have to read 'cause I don't understand why *. 'cause I was under the ah.p.116
13:49:30.8CAMCAM-7(@) can you help me get this door shut?p.116
13:49:34.1FOCAM-2ahm.p.116
13:49:35.9ATCGNDtruck forty two ground. go ahead.p.116
13:49:36.0CAMCAM-?* * *. [multiple voices].p.117
13:49:36.0FOCAM-2I would.p.117
13:49:48.8ATCGNDokay he's gonna be tugged in ahm you wanna go ahead and secure the equipment just keep it come on with him?p.117
13:49:57.2FOCAM-2you know we ahm.p.117
13:49:57.8ATCGNDokay you gon- * you guy all gonna follow him into the * pen or * * *.p.117
13:50:02.7FOCAM-2yeah I don't get * we don't have a you don't have a red book so I er grey book but. I'm almost positive but that's *. the doors, everything's mechanical on it the doors are hydraulic.p.117
13:50:18.4ATCGNDokay yeah just let you know the tug is enroute he should be out there shortly.p.118
13:50:18.5FOCAM-2maybe that's what was holding (this) *.p.118
13:50:20.5CACAM-1what?p.118
13:50:21.6FOCAM-2the doors should drop you have no hydraulic power.p.118
13:50:22.5CACAM-1yeah.p.118
13:50:25.0CACAM-1I don't know * either just the mechanical lock was holdin' it 'n it never released till you pulled up the handle?p.118
13:50:27.9ATCGNDtruck forty two ground.p.118
13:50:35.7FOCAM-2aw #.p.119
13:50:40.9FOCAM-2sheddin' # on the runway too huh?p.119
13:50:41.1ATCGNDeh truck forty two that's approved.p.119
13:50:47.1ATCGNDtruck forty ground that's approved you can drive down three zero left.p.119
13:50:58.8ATCGNDcar two you got the stuff?p.119
13:51:01.9ATCGNDyeah truck forty ah one of the city vehicles has got your equipment.p.120
13:51:11.2CACAM-1what do we know about the tug?p.120
13:51:13.0FOCAM-2it's on the way.p.120
13:51:16.7CAPA-1okay folks ah the rescue folks have said the airplane is ah all safe and secure we're waiting on ah tug from ah the company to come out here and pull us off the runway ah as I said ah all my hy- hydraulics are ah gone and I don't wanna try and taxi the airplane ah without ah some way to steer it so ah we're gonna wait for the tug and I'm hopin' they'll be here shortly but ah please be patient we'll ah get ya back to the terminal as soon as we can.p.120
13:51:44.8FOCAM-2he was he was passin' the tower they said the last.p.120
13:51:48.3FORDO-2there is a tug gettin' close * fourteen hundred.p.120
13:51:50.1CAMCAM-?* *.p.120
13:51:52.0CAPA-1they should be * *those tugs don't drive very fast because ah all the ah power is a goes into the wheels for power not for speed.p.121
13:52:02.6FOCAM-2you know what.p.121
13:52:05.5ATCGNDcar nineteen ground.p.121
13:52:06.3FOCAM-2it I bet ten bucks (it's) all (we go) * * # * *.p.121
13:52:11.8CACAM-1yeah.p.121
13:52:12.1ATCGNDokay yeah yeah kinda waitin' for ya I guess.p.121
13:52:12.6CACAM-1yeah * as soon as that happened I'm thinkin' (well) you know if you were doin' on an engine start and it didn't ah close what do ya do you shut the engine down. we shoulda just immediately headed back to the field when that happened * *.p.121
13:52:22.5FOCAM-2well yeah in in retrospect yeah but I mean *.p.121
13:52:25.2CACAM-1but I mean we were headed back to the field almost (right away).p.122
13:52:27.1FOCAM-2but it was.p.122
13:52:28.4CACAM-1I mean yeah it was like seconds.p.122
13:52:30.2FOCAM-2and you weren't even at what four thousand feet?p.122
13:52:32.4CACAM-1so huh.p.122
13:52:33.2CACAM-1I never got we never got above four thousand.p.122
13:52:34.9FOCAM-2basically what is says is go to in-flight shutdown, * * * again so.p.122
13:52:38.9ATCGNDcar two ground.p.122
13:52:43.9ATCGNDthank you.p.122
13:52:44.8FOCAM-2but anyway.p.123
13:52:47.0CACAM-1naw I guess we're not goin' to Orlando today.p.123
13:52:48.8FOCAM-2probably not probably not naw good chance that's not gonna happen. (that) * *. * water * * * * water anyway.p.123
13:52:57.2CACAM-1yeah.p.123
13:52:57.6CAMCAM-?* * *.p.123
13:53:09.6FOCAM-2well good thing he was on board * * * too # much for # two people to be # with * you got just a simple thing * you got this now we got this.p.123
13:53:18.4CAMCAM-?* *.p.123
13:53:20.7CACAM-1well wha- what do they say you know in the simulator they're not allowed to give us compound emergencies (right)?p.123
13:53:25.1◦CAM[unidentifiable sound].p.123
13:53:26.2FOCAM-2I'm thinkin' maybe it's not them * * *. [sound of laughter].p.123
13:53:30.6FOCAM-2I mean you lost, electrical, you never and it and it never cross-tied.p.124
13:53:35.9CACAM-1no. * * *.p.124
13:53:37.4FOCAM-2when this is runnin'.p.124
13:53:38.4CACAM-1and then when the engine went down I lost the whole left side.p.124
13:53:40.4FOCAM-2yeah.p.124
13:53:41.3FOCAM-2and now the odd thing is this the APU picked up the left side.p.124
13:53:44.6CACAM-1probably shoulda gone over ta.p.124
13:53:47.0FOCAM-2yeah * * (but).p.124
13:53:51.8FOCAM-2we're here safely now.p.124
13:53:53.2CAMCAM-?do you have no right hydraulics? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.124
13:53:55.7CACAM-1it's all gone * looks like it's all gone I didn't have any nose wheel steering.p.124
13:53:59.9FOCAM-2(comin' 'em) back?p.125
13:54:01.1FOCAM-2alright.p.125
13:54:03.4FOCAM-2[sound of laughter]. tug ride in?p.125
13:54:07.4FOCAM-2maybe we'll get a fire truck salute.p.125
13:54:09.6CACAM-1* * *.p.125
13:54:11.4CAMCAM-?* *.p.125
13:54:12.3FOCAM-2you you should have it 'cause you got ah.p.125
13:54:15.3CACAM-1is there any fluid is that like pegged ah that's (on) zero * * any (right) hydraulic?p.125
13:54:15.4CAMCAM-?* *.p.125
13:54:24.3CACAM-1what have I got now?p.125
13:54:29.3FOCAM-2* (have) quantity gotta (de-pressurize).p.126
13:54:33.2CAMCAM-?hm.p.126
13:54:34.5FOCAM-2that's odd I just shut it off and look what it did?p.126
13:54:37.2CAMCAM-?* * *.p.126
13:54:40.0FOCAM-2hey I.p.126
13:54:41.1CAMCAM-?* * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.126
13:54:42.2FOCAM-2okay.p.126
13:54:43.9CAMCAM-?* *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.126
13:54:45.1CACAM-1well thanks.p.126
13:54:45.7CAMCAM-?* * * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.126
13:54:48.5CACAM-1yeah I just wanted to get on the ground.p.126
13:54:51.2CAMCAM-?touch down at. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.127
13:54:53.8CACAM-1ah probably about one fifty.p.127
13:54:55.6CAMCAM-?* * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.127
13:54:58.1FOCAM-2you have right pressure.p.127
13:55:00.1CACAM-1okay we got it now where was it before?p.127
13:55:02.5FOCAM-2don't know.p.127
13:55:05.4FOCAM-2I just cycled the switch and then it started workin'.p.127
13:55:09.2FOCAM-2you don't have left.p.127
13:55:11.0CACAM-1I don't have left don't have right.p.127
13:55:13.2FOCAM-2ah # it the caravan's here. but the transfer * this died though.p.127
13:55:17.3CACAM-1yeah.p.127
13:55:21.5FOCAM-2yeah I just * cut the transfer off. but that should be well that should workin' 'cause you got power on.p.128
13:55:32.6FOCAM-2I don't know man.p.128
13:55:42.3FOCAM-2yeah but it's not ah.p.128
13:55:46.1CACAM-1what we have where'd that go?p.128
13:55:47.8FOCAM-2(great shape). well that popped out when I pushed it.p.128
13:55:49.1CACAM-1* *.p.128
13:55:51.0FOCAM-2right generator's workin'. and that should be dead, that's (working).p.128
13:55:56.6FOCAM-2that should be pickin' up, (do this).p.128
13:56:01.2CACAM-1so the APU's not pickin' up the right bus?p.128
13:56:03.2FOCAM-2ah uh.p.129
13:56:04.0CACAM-1well that's 'cause the engine's running.p.129
13:56:05.9◦CAM[sound similar to truck's backup horn].p.129
13:56:06.1FOCAM-2but the ah but the engines not even runnin' it.p.129
13:56:09.4CACAM-1the engine's not runnin the right bus either?p.129
13:56:13.5CACAM-1you get one reset.p.129
13:56:15.0◦CAM[unidentified sound].p.129
13:56:16.2◦HOT[sound of electronic bell and tone].p.129
13:56:23.7FOCAM-2why are we * *? trans fails to wherever you had it set. taken out provided you don't get any power back if we have to it it aughta work.p.129
13:56:24.9◦CAM[unintelligible voices and sounds similar to a truck's backup horn].p.129
13:56:41.1FOCAM-2yeah that was working.p.129
13:56:47.1CACAM-1yeah but this aughta be aughta be be three thousand.p.130
13:57:00.5◦CAM[unintelligible voices].p.130
13:57:05.5FOCAM-2I don't know.p.130
13:57:12.8CACAM-1we should have them pin the gear anyway and tow it after all the # we went through I don't need to have the gear collapse taxiing in.p.130
13:57:18.2FOCAM-2yeah.p.130
13:57:30.0◦CAM[unintelligible voices].p.130
13:57:41.8CAMCAM-4[warning bell and electronic voice] fire left engine [warning bell and electronic voice] fire left engine.p.130
13:57:43.0FOCAM-2oh, you gotta be # me.p.130
13:57:44.8CACAM-1oh.p.130
13:57:46.2FOCAM-2I just moved that thing and it just.p.130
13:57:51.4FOCAM-2that's 'cause it went back in when I pulled it yeah *. I was just lettin' the air back in. * * * * * pull it back out. # # it was hot.p.131
13:57:54.8CAMCAM-?* * * * * * *. [multiple voices].p.131
13:58:02.2CAMCAM-?(pull) fire alarm shutoff for the left engine. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.131
13:58:06.2FOCAM-2yeah, careful it's really hot.p.131
13:58:06.3CAMCAM-?dumping gas. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.131
13:58:09.7CACAM-1is it still dumpin'?p.131
13:58:12.7FOCAM-2how the # * this # all off?p.131
13:58:14.3CAMCAM-?* * gear pins? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.131
13:58:16.8CACAM-1you got the gear pins?p.131
13:58:18.7CACAM-1get the gear pins for him.p.132
13:58:32.1FOCAM-2suppose that is?p.132
13:58:34.4CACAM-1hm.p.132
13:58:36.4CACAM-1* * the start valve?p.132
13:58:38.5FOCAM-2(ah something ain't good).p.132
13:58:41.9FOCAM-2yeah * for the start valve.p.132
13:58:46.0FOCAM-2you know this whole thing is fricken gone here.p.132
13:58:49.5CAINT-1you read me?.p.132
13:58:52.2CAINT-1uh eh this is cockpit to ground how do you hear?p.133
13:58:56.6FOCAM-2yeah.p.133
13:59:01.5CAINT-1cockpit to ground how do you hear?p.133
13:59:01.7FOCAM-2it's hot.p.133
13:59:03.8CAINT-1okay, you're pu-p.133
13:59:04.5FOCAM-2load closeout's been updated.p.133
13:59:05.2CAINT-1yeah you're plugged into the cabin.p.133
13:59:08.5CAINT-1yeah uh yeah w- we did uh we pushed it back in for a moment, but it's out now.p.133
13:59:17.6CAINT-1yeah, I copy you're plugged into the cabin interphone * plug into the flight side?p.134
13:59:23.1INTINT-7and we we need everyone * in their seats with their seatbelts fastened with all carry on items stowed please.p.134
13:59:28.5CAINT-1I hear you yeah I hear you.p.134
13:59:31.7CACAM-1yes.p.134
13:59:34.9CAINT-1yes.p.134
13:59:35.4CACAM-1yes.p.134
13:59:37.4FOCAM-2but the loop's testing right?p.135
13:59:44.1ATCGNDAmerican fourteen hundred ground.p.135
13:59:46.1FORDO-2yeah go ahead.p.135
13:59:47.1ATCGNDyeah is there * * another problem now?p.135
13:59:48.1CAMCAM-?* * * * *.p.135
13:59:49.4FORDO-2well no they're just uhm trying to pin the gear and uh I guess a couple of other things.p.135
13:59:53.2CACAM-1you're plugged into the cabin interphone. can you plug into the other interphone slot?p.135
13:59:56.2ATCGNDokay.p.135
14:00:00.6CACAM-1plug into the other interphone.p.135
14:00:02.3ATCGNDtruck fifty three ground go ahead.p.135
14:00:13.1FOCAM-2no good. * * emergency for fire personnel.p.136
14:00:13.5ATCGNDabs- proceed as requested where do you need to go again.p.136
14:00:17.3ATCGNDD-concourse? go ahead and proceed it.p.136
14:00:19.1FOCAM-2ah.p.136
14:00:19.4CAINT-1yeah can you hear me now? how do you hear? you still don't hear me?p.136
14:00:19.9CAMCAM-?(yeah).p.136
14:00:21.1CACAM-1* (here).p.137
14:00:29.3CAINT-1how do you hear me now?p.137
14:00:32.7FOCAM-2man look at this #.p.137
14:00:34.2CACAM-1I don't know I can't even talk to him what what do you mean we have a medical emergency for the.p.137
14:00:37.7FOCAM-2these guys.p.137
14:00:39.1FOCAM-2why they ah one of them get sick or somethin?p.137
14:00:40.8FOCAM-2naw.p.137
14:00:41.0FOCAM-2hey they probably got a call they're going to the terminal.p.137
14:00:42.7CACAM-1he was said he was said for it was an emer- er ah medical for emergency personnel.p.137
14:00:48.7FOINT-2you guys there?p.137
14:00:50.6CAMCAM-?[unintelligible voices in background].p.137
14:00:52.6CAINT-1you guys hear me?p.137
14:00:53.5CACAM-1what?p.138
14:00:53.8CAMCAM-?* * * * * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.138
14:00:56.4CACAM-1okay.p.138
14:00:57.1CAMCAM-?[unintelligible voices in background].p.138
14:01:00.1CACAM-1now they want to take everybody off.p.138
14:01:02.9FOCAM-2why where we going to put 'em?p.138
14:01:04.4CAMCAM-?[unintelligible voices in background].p.138
14:01:13.6FOCAM-2no no no. naw that's *.p.138
14:01:23.4FOCAM-2(#).p.138
14:01:25.8CAMCAM-?do you have you have the APU on line? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.138
14:01:25.8ATCGNDand truck fifty three you said * * * the D- concourse or the Bravo concourse.p.138
14:01:29.6CACAM-1yes.p.139
14:01:30.6CAMCAM-?shut the right engine off. shut the right engine off. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.139
14:01:31.8ATCGND'kay the Delta concourse okay thank you.p.139
14:01:33.6FOCAM-2*?p.139
14:01:34.0CACAM-1shut the right engine off he says.p.139
14:01:35.6CAMCAM-?*.p.139
14:01:36.6FOCAM-2see if that works.p.139
14:01:42.1◦CAM[sound of single electronic chime].p.139
14:01:45.2◦CAM[sound similar to automobile horn].p.139
14:02:07.6FOCAM-2(just) hope to @ that doesn't quit.p.139
14:02:10.6ATCGNDcar nineteen ground.p.139
14:02:14.2ATCGNDunderstand youse gonna be deplaning the ah aircraft you need a stepper out there?p.140
14:02:22.1ATCGNDyeah we're bein' told you're gonna be * deplaning that aircraft now?p.140
14:02:28.5CAMCAM-?okay.p.140
14:02:29.0ATCGNDokay do you need some stairs out there also 'cause the stairs just left we saw?p.140
14:02:29.3CAMCAM-?(you count the passengers).p.140
14:02:30.8CACAM-1well it appears that now we do but there was a period there where a lot of things were giving us funny indications and we we appeared to not have any right hydraulics ah I was landing the airplane I had a pretty good handful trying to maintain directional control and uh we just kinda decided that we didn't have nose wheel steering you know or you know very little.p.141
14:02:42.2ATCGNDokay.p.141
14:02:53.4◦CAM[unintelligible voices from outside the cockpit].p.141
14:02:58.8CACAM-1yeah but now we've got the uh aux pump on.p.141
14:02:59.3FOCAM-2that's it.p.141
14:03:02.0FOCAM-2it's off right now but.p.141
14:03:03.8FOCAM-2so far.p.141
14:03:04.4CACAM-1I mean when we turn the aux pump on we get everything back now but there was a period there wh- where I think we didn't have the aux pump.p.142
14:03:11.3CACAM-1* there's been some strange electrical.p.142
14:03:13.1FOCAM-2the trans pump's dead though I.p.142
14:03:15.2CACAM-1what's that?p.142
14:03:15.8FOCAM-2the trans pump is dead which is a.p.142
14:03:15.9CAMCAM-?okay ah I don't want to know why they wanna move the people off the airplane here. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.142
14:03:19.8CACAM-1who's idea who's * *?p.142
14:03:20.9CAMCAM-?* * the fire department said they were gonna. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.142
14:03:23.3CACAM-1why do they want to do that?p.143
14:03:23.4ATCGNDtruck one oh seven if you're on Charlie cross two four.p.143
14:03:27.1CAMCAM-?* * * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.143
14:03:29.2CACAM-1alright.p.143
14:03:29.7CAMCAM-?what we're gonna do is we're gonna. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.143
14:03:34.3CACAM-1what are you gonna do?p.143
14:03:34.9CAMCAM-?what we're gonna do is I'm gonna go up there I'm gonna ah we got the bypass * * about here we're gonna stow that bypass get the flaps slats gear doors back up and then we'll we'll either tow or tug back to the gate. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.143
14:03:45.9CACAM-1okay.p.143
14:03:47.1CAMCAM-?* * *?p.144
14:03:47.9CAMCAM-?I don't think they want to take the people off out here. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.144
14:03:50.0FOCAM-2no.p.144
14:03:50.3CACAM-1I didn't think so either.p.144
14:03:51.8FOCAM-2no, no, no.p.144
14:03:51.9CARDO-1hey ground ah this American fourteen hundred.p.144
14:03:54.7ATCGNDAmerican fourteen hundred go ahead.p.144
14:03:56.3CARDO-1yes sir uuuh some of the crash folks are saying they want to deplane the people here but we don't understand why they want to do that we d- we're ready to we're hooked up and ready to be towed t- ah in just a couple of minutes and uh that's all just going to take that much longer.p.144
14:04:10.6ATCGNDstand by just a minute truck uh or car nineteen with me?p.144
14:04:14.6FOCAM-2never gonna get everybody on those busses *.p.144
14:04:18.2ATCGND'kay he was ah American would like to know why they're wantin' to deplane the aircraft eah do you know why?p.145
14:04:20.5CAMCAM-?where is you're uh where's your gear handle selector. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.145
14:04:23.6CACAM-1it's down.p.145
14:04:25.3CAMCAM-?trouble with your emergency extension. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.145
14:04:27.0CACAM-1it's up we pulled it up.p.145
14:04:28.5CAMCAM-?okay. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.145
14:04:29.3ATCGNDokay.p.145
14:04:30.1FORDO-2well. it's actually gonna be safer to leave the folks here on the airplane everything is under control uhm they're just trying to get all the gear pinned and everything just for safety's sake and uh, we don't want to be dumping people out here on the ah on the runway.p.146
14:04:30.9CAMCAM-?huh? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.146
14:04:31.7CAMCAM-?* * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.146
14:04:33.0CAMCAM-?no no. * * * stow that handle. you know how to stow the handle? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.146
14:04:37.5CACAM-1yeah well we had to pull that up to get the nose gear down.p.146
14:04:41.5CAMCAM-?* * the right hydraulic * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.146
14:04:43.8CACAM-1for a while there we didn't have much of anything.p.146
14:04:47.2CACAM-1I don't know what was going on. I was just trying to keep the blue side up.p.146
14:04:48.7ATCGNDnkay yeah the ther city's going to try to find out why the fire chief wants to deplane 'em stand by.p.147
14:04:51.4CAMCAM-?I know uh. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.147
14:04:52.7FORDO-2yeah okay.p.147
14:04:54.9CACAM-1we just basically in the end just said put the gear down (give me my) flaps * * landed.p.147
14:05:00.7CAMCAM-?to stow the handle just push the lever and push it down. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.147
14:05:03.9CACAM-1yeah yeah you got the nose gear pinned?p.147
14:05:04.0ATCGNDcar nineteen go ahead.p.147
14:05:05.5CAMCAM-?* * * * *. [multiple voices originating from outside the cockpit].p.148
14:05:08.9CAMCAM-?gear gear handle's down? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.148
14:05:09.4CACAM-1no.p.148
14:05:11.3CACAM-1the main gear handle is down 'kay.p.148
14:05:15.5FOCAM-2is there still smoke coming out of the engine?p.148
14:05:15.5ATCGNDokay American fourteen hundred did you copy that?p.148
14:05:17.3CAMCAM-?nosegear. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.148
14:05:18.6CACAM-1I don't know is that what they're saying?p.148
14:05:18.7FORDO-2yeah.p.148
14:05:20.3ATCGNDokay that's the reason they're gonna be deplaning the aircraft.p.148
14:05:23.2FOCAM-2they said there's smoke coming out of the engine still.p.148
14:05:24.7CACAM-1still showing smoke coming out of the engine or something?p.149
14:05:25.9ATCOPSground comm center.p.149
14:05:27.2ATCGNDcomm center ground.p.149
14:05:28.0CAMCAM-?no.p.149
14:05:28.2ATCOPSyeah can you inquire if they're gonna need air stairs or if they have ah integrated ah steps that they can use?p.149
14:05:28.6CAMCAM-?all the * * * (with you). [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.149
14:05:31.1CACAM-1well we pushed we pushed the handle in, we pushed the fire handle in for a moment.p.149
14:05:33.7ATCGNDcar nineteen ground.p.149
14:05:35.6CAMCAM-?okay *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.149
14:05:36.1FOCAM-2* * started dumpin' (fuel). CAM-J * why * *.p.149
14:05:37.0CAMCAM-?* * * * * * * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.150
14:05:40.4FOCAM-2aw okay.p.150
14:05:41.6FOCAM-2alright.p.150
14:05:42.1FOCAM-2there're gonna.p.150
14:05:42.4ATCGNDcom center did you copy that?p.150
14:05:44.7ATCOPSthat's firm.p.150
14:05:45.7ATCGNDokay.p.150
14:05:45.7FOCAM-2they're ga- they're gonna deplane it.p.150
14:05:46.6CAMCAM-?* * * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.150
14:05:47.7FOCAM-2* said there's smoke coming out of the engine still so.p.150
14:05:47.9CACAM-1talking to ground?p.151
14:05:51.3CACAM-1huh?p.151
14:05:52.7FOCAM-2okay.p.151
14:05:54.1CACAM-1do you want us to put the emergency handle?p.151
14:05:55.7CAMCAM-?* * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.151
14:05:56.9CAMCAM-?(stop). [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.151
14:05:59.4CAMCAM-?all three gear are pinned.p.151
14:06:00.8FOCAM-2cool.p.151
14:06:06.0FOCAM-2I think it's asinine to send people out on the busses but.p.151
14:06:12.9CACAM-1when you ah pushed the fire handle in that started dumping fuel * *.p.151
14:06:16.4FOCAM-2uh * lifted this up * *.p.151
14:06:18.2CAMCAM-?* * * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.152
14:06:21.3FOCAM-2that's my fault there.p.152
14:06:22.2CACAM-1so now that's why the fire department wants to take everybody off.p.152
14:06:24.6FOCAM-2oh.p.152
14:06:28.7FOCAM-2well that's my ah # up there.p.152
14:06:30.6CACAM-1okay.p.152
14:06:31.0CAMCAM-?* * * person * landing gear doors (and are closed). [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.152
14:06:34.4CACAM-1okay.p.152
14:06:35.5CAMCAM-?* *. [multiple voices].p.152
14:06:36.2CACAM-1'kay go ahead and.p.152
14:06:36.6FOCAM-2but all it's he's gonna get I can't.p.153
14:06:38.8CACAM-1okay.p.153
14:06:39.3ATCGNDtruck one hundred ground.p.153
14:06:40.6CAMCAM-?huh.p.153
14:06:40.9CAMCAM-?(there ya go) *.p.153
14:06:42.2FOCAM-2but it's you know they're not.p.153
14:06:43.5CACAM-1yeah.p.153
14:06:45.6CACAM-1well he's * (wants) you to stow the handle.p.153
14:06:46.8ATCGNDthank you.p.153
14:06:48.4CACAM-1* they got the gear pinned so they wanna get the. TRK-53 St. Louis ground truck fifty three.p.153
14:06:50.9ATCGNDtruck fitty three ground.p.154
14:06:51.8FOCAM-2aw okay.p.154
14:06:52.5CACAM-1stow the gear handle. yeah he wants to try the get the uh. he wanna try and get get the doors up.p.154
14:06:59.4FOCAM-2piece a #. ah.p.154
14:06:59.4ATCGNDtruck fifty three at Kilo or Lima proceed on two nine and drive down thirty left.p.154
14:07:05.8CACAM-1hang on a second he's trying to get the handle down.p.154
14:07:07.7CAMCAM-?* * * the handle comes * * * little lever comes * * door * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.154
14:07:08.4FOCAM-2(in a best spot).p.154
14:07:09.0CACAM-1okay.p.155
14:07:13.6CAMCAM-?* * * * * *. [multiple voices originating from outside the cockpit].p.155
14:07:14.0FOCAM-2* sumpin'.p.155
14:07:16.7ATCGNDtruck fifty three proceed back on thirty left to the aircraft.p.155
14:07:16.8CACAM-1got it down?p.155
14:07:16.9FOCAM-2they go up?p.155
14:07:17.6CAMCAM-?* * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.155
14:07:17.8FOCAM-2yeah.p.155
14:07:25.2CAMCAM-?got the handle stowed now? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.156
14:07:26.6CACAM-1yeah.p.156
14:07:31.4CACAM-1the handle is stowed right?p.156
14:07:32.4FOCAM-2yeah.p.156
14:07:36.1FOCAM-2I just don't have any hydraulics for some reason.p.156
14:07:37.6CACAM-1do you got @ there?p.156
14:07:40.2FOCAM-2* * * *.p.156
14:07:48.4FOCAM-2we're gonna boar- * kick everybody off out here * * *.p.156
14:07:50.7CACAM-1even with the pumps on we're not gettin' any pressure.p.156
14:07:53.3CAMCAM-?*.p.156
14:07:54.0FOCAM-2weee no we're * fight with them but the fire department says do it so.p.157
14:07:58.4CAMCAM-7where are they go. where are they going to go?p.157
14:08:01.6FOCAM-2they're gonna put 'em all on busses.p.157
14:08:02.3CACAM-1there's three busses right there they're gonna de- they wanna deplane the fire department insists because they saw some residual fuel coming out of the engine, it's still smoking or something so.p.157
14:08:03.7CAMCAM-7oh oh okay. okay I thought I smelled fuel. okay.p.157
14:08:03.7ATCGNDsweeper one forty five ground.p.157
14:08:12.8CAMCAM-7alright so I need I need to disarm this door and we'll use the front entry with stairs. and and do we need to talk them into keeping all their crap on the plane. 'cause they're all gonna try to carry all their crap.p.157
14:08:12.9CACAM-1we want to ah *.p.158
14:08:13.3ATCGNDproceed on thirty left.p.158
14:08:16.1FOCAM-2yeah.p.158
14:08:17.3CACAM-1yeah.p.158
14:08:18.3FOCAM-2yeah yeah.p.158
14:08:23.1CAMCAM-?* * * *. [multiple voices].p.158
14:08:26.7FOCAM-2well.p.158
14:08:28.6CACAM-1is there a- can we just let 'em take all their stuff off they probably should just take everything with them.p.158
14:08:29.8CAMCAM-7* * * * *.p.158
14:08:34.2CACAM-1that isn't quite right.p.158
14:08:35.8FOCAM-2got a screw driver?p.158
14:08:37.2CACAM-1naw I'm not allowed to carry one, but I do have something that might work just as well. here try this.p.159
14:08:38.2CAMCAM-?[sound of laughter] * * *.p.159
14:08:43.2CAMCAM-7I have scissors.p.159
14:08:44.7CAMCAM-?* * *.p.159
14:08:46.1FOCAM-2(there we go those # are hot).p.159
14:08:51.3CAMCAM-?whoo.p.159
14:08:51.5◦CAM[unintelligible voices, multiple speakers].p.159
14:08:52.4FOCAM-2that thing burn your hand too?p.159
14:08:53.7CACAM-1yeah.p.159
14:08:54.0FOCAM-2I gonna * I-O-D on that.p.159
14:08:56.6CACAM-1* didn't burn it that bad I I used a rag I didn't.p.159
14:09:02.9FOCAM-2see they're making some calls here trying to.p.159
14:09:05.2CACAM-1(are we still on the clock then)?p.160
14:09:06.6FOCAM-2* * * *. [sound of laughter].p.160
14:09:07.0CAMCAM-7yeah would you be sure on that that's important. ahm. I'm not sure about all their stuff I (think) they'll fall down the stairs and break their necks carrying all their bags so I'm not sure what the procedure is on the *.p.160
14:09:18.6FOCAM-2no.p.160
14:09:21.4CAMCAM-?[unintelligible voices, multiple speakers].p.160
14:09:28.5CAMCAM-?* * * * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.160
14:09:34.7FOCAM-2okay.p.160
14:09:35.1CAMCAM-?* * *.p.160
14:09:36.9CACAM-1do you care whether they take all carry on stuff with 'em or what? leave it on? they want 'em to leave it on.p.160
14:09:45.6CACAM-1alright thank you.p.161
14:09:46.5CACAM-1the fire department says to tell them to leave everything on the airplane. and he wants you to open the door. maybe you ought to do that @ can you do that?.p.161
14:09:57.6CACAM-1all right you want to do it, @? @ gonna do it.p.161
14:09:58.7CAMCAM-?*.p.161
14:09:59.6FOCAM-2I'll do this.p.161
14:09:59.6CAMCAM-7are you gonna make an announcement or do you want me?p.161
14:10:01.3CACAM-1yeah, I'll make an announcement.p.161
14:10:02.6CAMCAM-?* * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.161
14:10:05.8CAMCAM-?* *.p.161
14:10:05.9CAPA-1okay uh folks this is captain @ speaking uuhm the fire department now has decided they saw some rel- residual fuel draining out of the uh left engine which was the engine that we had a problem with ah they want to uh in the interest I guess of being very cautious they want to deplane all of you folks uh out here there are some busses standing by uhm they've told me that they would uh request that you leave your carry-on luggage on the airplane you'll be able to get it once we get back to the terminal area but they want to take for in the interests of safety they want you folks to get off the airplane and then they're gonna tow us back into a gate uhm so I'd appreciate you cooperation ah just take the minimum amount of ah things you need to take with you but if you could leave your carry- ons on the airplane ah that's what the fire departments instructions were thank you.p.162
14:10:10.5CAMCAM-?[unintelligible voices, multiple speakers].p.162
14:11:07.3INTINT-7when you're ready you can deplane but once again leave your carry-on items on the airplane we- we'll get them back to you as soon as the plane gets to the gate.p.162
14:11:22.5CACAM-1how much of a gap do they have to cross there?p.163
14:11:25.7INTINT-7ladies and gentlemen once again leave your carry on bags * * * * *p.163
14:11:26.1CAMCAM-7the ca- the fireman has * * *.p.163
14:11:27.5CAMCAM-?anybody need any help gettin' down the stairs * *? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.163
14:11:28.4CACAM-1there's somebody there helpin' 'em?p.163
14:11:29.9CAMCAM-7yeah the firemen.p.163
14:11:32.9CAMCAM-?(what's up). [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.163
14:11:33.5CAMCAM-?(I don't know) * * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.163
14:11:35.0CAPA-1and folks as you ah deplane through the front door here please ah use caution there's a slight gap between the aircraft and the stairs ah so just watch your step as you go off the airplane please thank you.p.163
14:11:48.9CAMCAM-?* * * * *. [sound of laughter].p.164
14:12:00.6CAMCAM-7well this has been exciting you did a wonderful job.p.164
14:12:01.6ATCGNDcar nineteen ground.p.164
14:12:03.6CACAM-1thanks.p.164
14:12:03.8CAMCAM-7he to- he told me that it wasn't pretty.p.164
14:12:06.6CACAM-1yeah it was.p.164
14:12:09.2CACAM-1thank you.p.164
14:12:09.4CAMCAM-7all stuff you learned paid off today.p.164
14:12:11.7CACAM-1I guess so well I'm just glad it was a nice bright sunny da-.p.165
14:12:12.2ATCGNDokay.p.165
14:12:13.3CAMCAM-?thank you very much.p.165
14:12:14.8CACAM-1oh you're welcome thank you thank you.p.165
14:12:15.3CAMCAM-7thanks your welcome.p.165
14:12:18.1CAMCAM-?nice job guys.p.165
14:12:19.3CACAM-1thanks.p.165
14:12:19.9CAMCAM-?great job.p.165
14:12:21.0CACAM-1thanks.p.165
14:12:21.8CAMCAM-?* * that ah.p.165
14:12:24.6CAMCAM-7we're all fine.p.165
14:12:25.5CAMCAM-?yeah thank you.p.165
14:12:27.1CACAM-1there was never a *. there was never a problem.p.165
14:12:30.1CAMCAM-?no * is good.p.166
14:12:31.3CAMCAM-?*.p.166
14:12:35.7CACAM-1we were just overwhelmed (when stuff happen).p.166
14:12:37.9CAMCAM-7(that's what) I said everything went wrong at once isn't that what they always say on T-V, the cascading of events. probably always say that when they talk about *.p.166
14:12:45.9CACAM-1* * stuff happening and you know when * it all goes back to changing that start valve.p.166
14:12:50.4CAMCAM-?thanks guys.p.166
14:12:51.7CACAM-1thank you.p.166
14:12:53.2CAMCAM-7thanks for flyin' American.p.166
14:12:55.6CACAM-1even though the flight was short.p.166
14:13:00.0CAMCAM-7all back to that? 'cause @ said he been flyin' around for a couple of days in this airplane * *.p.166
14:13:06.8CACAM-1first thing we had was we * we got the gear up and we got up to about I don't know twenty three twenty five hundred feet or so and was just turnin' out of traffic and we got a indication that the left start valve was open which you can't have * you can't in flight it's not a good thing you know * I goin' oh shh.p.167
14:13:27.4CAMCAM-7I heard all that stuff goin' on.p.167
14:13:28.2CACAM-1time to think about yeah before we had time to even figure out okay what are w- do with that next thing we got was * fire light and ah and then we're losin' stuff and ah.p.167
14:13:40.3CAMCAM-7and the gear wouldn't go down?p.167
14:13:41.7CACAM-1gear wouldn't well the nosegear wouldn't go down that's why I went around the first *. and then I'm out there and I'm goin'. I'm havin' a # of a time holdin' altitude.p.167
14:13:52.7CAMCAM-7oh my @.p.167
14:13:55.1CACAM-1* so main gear were down we're down to one engine can't get the gear back up.p.167
14:14:01.4CACAM-1but we didn't want to put the gear back up.p.167
14:14:03.5CAMCAM-7no.p.168
14:14:04.1CACAM-1I didn't think * * * * *.p.168
14:14:05.1CAMCAM-7(no). (you did a good job).p.168
14:14:09.1CACAM-1(thanks).p.168
14:14:09.6CAMCAM-7both of ya.p.168
14:14:11.3CACAM-1* * * * @ was * I was just tryin' to fly the airplane and @ was tryin' to deal with radios and work figure out what the you know problem was.p.168
14:14:11.5CAMCAM-7or all three of you.p.168
14:14:21.8CAMCAM-?thank you all.p.168
14:14:22.9CAMCAM-7# door kept opening I couldn't get the door shut.p.168
14:14:23.9CACAM-1* * * we lost *, we're losin' our instruments up here. and ah so I said get @ up here we need a third guy.p.168
14:14:32.9CAMCAM-7yeah that's good.p.168
14:14:40.8CACAM-1so I guess you guys aren't gonna do your La Guardia turn.p.169
14:14:43.0CAMCAM-7Hmmm?p.169
14:14:43.6CACAM-1at least your not gonna do your La Guardia turn.p.169
14:14:45.1CAMCAM-7darn it I just love that so much.p.169
14:14:49.9CAMCAM-?go ahead?p.169
14:14:51.8CACAM-1I should.p.169
14:14:53.8CACAM-1you know in.p.169
14:14:57.2CACAM-1thirty five years of flyin' that's the first time I've ever had anything like that happen.p.169
14:15:02.3CAMCAM-7that's what @ said he never had * done * ever neither.p.169
14:15:07.5CAMCAM-7the only thing I've had are a couple of aborted landed because there's a plane or somethin' on the runway and that's it I've never had anything I was really kinda hopin' once we're on the ground I really wanted to do that evacuation 'cause I've never done * * * training.p.169
14:15:19.7CACAM-1oh yeah well I just I was you know unless we were burnin' up I didn't wann dump all the people out here.p.170
14:15:25.7CAMCAM-7yeah oh yeah 'cause then they'll all break their legs goin' down the slide.p.170
14:15:29.7CACAM-1* * * * *?p.170
14:15:32.8CAMCAM-7we've * right on it with the busses and the firemen and all that stuff.p.170
14:15:43.2CACAM-1'cause I was one point (when) we were halfway over after we landed got on the runway it just started goin' to the right * * pushin' with everything I got on the left and.p.170
14:15:59.2CAMCAM-7oh my @.p.170
14:16:07.1CACAM-1* * (do that) * * put the engines in reverse so the right engine was probably helpin' to push us over * * *. didn't have any nose wheel steering.p.170
14:16:22.3CAMCAM-?yeah that's it.p.170
14:16:26.7CAMCAM-?nice work skipper.p.170
14:16:28.3CACAM-1thank you.p.171
14:16:33.8CAMCAM-7when we started I could hard you know I could hardly see but I after we were thinking it's gonna be in just a couple minutes we're landing and when we didn't land and I saw fields and stuff I though oh my @ he's gonna put it down in a field that's what I'm thinkin' you're gonna land in out there somewhere.p.171
14:16:49.2CACAM-1* * * *.p.171
14:16:51.9CACAM-1we turned we're turned on to final and put the gear down and the nosegear didn't (go down) and I'm goin'.p.171
14:16:59.8CAMCAM-7ohhhh.p.171
14:17:00.7CACAM-1I wa- I'm just tryin' to fly the airplane at that point.p.171
14:17:02.2CAMCAM-7yeah.p.171
14:17:02.6CACAM-1@ looks over and see this little thing?p.171
14:17:04.4CAMCAM-7yeah.p.171
14:17:04.6CACAM-1when the nose gear’s down this sticks up, when the nose gear’s up that's down and flush. @ looks over there and he says isn't that supposed to be stickin' up? I'm goin' aw #.p.172
14:17:14.6CAMCAM-7oh my @.p.172
14:17:15.9CACAM-1so we call the tower he says ehh it looks like only your mains are down * * goin' around.p.172
14:17:20.7CAMCAM-7oh @.p.172
14:17:21.5CACAM-1figure out why we * how we're gonna get the nose * I I though we were comin' back I thought we were gonna come back and land * with the nosegear up. and I was gettin' ready for that.p.172
14:17:31.7CAMCAM-7oh my @.p.172
14:17:32.7CACAM-1and @ was able to pull up the emergency gear handle and when he pulled that up that unlocked at that point we lost all the power that would've unlatched should have unlatched the gear when we put the put the main gear handle down. whatever was supposed to have unlocked the nosegear didn't unlock it.p.172
14:17:46.2CAMCAM-?* * a good job I was impressed. yeah okay you did you did. * heckuvajob hey I was impressed, * you brought it in safe. say (sumpthin'). (yeah but you did it) * (did it did it * * (that engines though).p.173
14:17:49.6CAMCAM-7oh my @.p.173
14:17:52.9CACAM-1hey thank you.p.173
14:17:55.7CACAM-1well that's what they train us for [sound of laughter]. I guess the trainin' works.p.173
14:17:57.0ATCGNDcross two four.p.173
14:18:00.3CACAM-1yeah well I'm sure glad that it was no I * * glad it was a bright sunny day.p.173
14:18:03.8CAMCAM-?yeah [sound of laughter].p.173
14:18:05.0CAMCAM-?yeah I'll (stand) for * *.p.173
14:18:06.3CACAM-1thank you.p.173
14:18:07.6CAMCAM-4thank * guys heluvajob I mean I.p.174
14:18:10.1CAMCAM-4unbelievable, no flaps no spoilers.p.174
14:18:13.6FOCAM-2did we have any flaps? I mean I don't know.p.174
14:18:17.4CAMCAM-4you didn't have anything for the landing.p.174
14:18:18.6FOCAM-2didn't we?p.174
14:18:19.7CACAM-1is that right? we didn't have any flaps. flaps?p.174
14:18:21.4CAMCAM-4huh?p.174
14:18:21.8CACAM-1we didn't have any flaps huh?p.174
14:18:22.8CAMCAM-4no flaps. and you had no spoilers.p.174
14:18:23.4CACAM-1we didn't. we didn't really know what we had.p.174
14:18:26.0CAMCAM-4yeah.p.174
14:18:26.1FOCAM-2it's showin' that they're down to twenty eight (but).p.174
14:18:27.9CAMCAM-4no.p.175
14:18:29.1ATCGNDthank you.p.175
14:18:29.2FOCAM-2they're twenty eight now.p.175
14:18:30.8CAMCAM-4they were nothin' (when we landed).p.175
14:18:33.5CACAM-1so I don't even know, I didn't know what was wrong with the airplane it was just all kinds of (goofy) stuff.p.175
14:18:35.1FOCAM-2so like I said it just everything started going start valve light came on and then the then the fire light came on and then after tha- everything just went * * *.p.175
14:18:48.0FOCAM-2everything froze. I mean and then had A-C crosstie and then you wouldn't believe all the # that went wild I mean it's just.p.175
14:18:53.7CAMCAM-?I just need to know the numbers * * * *. * at everybody, I mean left on the plane * * *. 141902.2p.175
14:18:53.7CAMCAM-?* *.p.175
14:19:02.6CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.175
14:19:04.2FOCAM-2* * *.p.176
14:19:05.1FOCAM-2well (he was) * * yeah but (he's got seven) * *.p.176
14:19:07.8CAMCAM-?you got it.p.176
14:19:11.5CAMCAM-4it's eight it's eight it's eight eight eight eight eight eight eight. [multiple voices overlapping].p.176
14:19:13.5CAMCAM-?ah.p.176
14:19:16.1CAMCAM-?* * * *.p.176
14:19:16.7CAMCAM-?* * * you sure now? you sure? [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.176
14:19:19.2CAMCAM-?yeah.p.176
14:19:28.4CAMCAM-4(I haven't looked at the union but I understand that) * *.p.176
14:19:29.8CAMCAM-6hey you did a good job.p.176
14:19:31.4CACAM-1thank's.p.176
14:19:32.2CAMCAM-6did a good job.p.176
14:19:38.6CAMCAM-6I kept tryin' to get ahold of the number four goin' can you see the ground yet can you see the.p.177
14:19:45.5CACAM-1oh well then what did you think when we went around?p.177
14:19:48.4CAMCAM-6well I I know we went around a couple- I knew the minute we took off something was wrong.p.177
14:19:53.8CACAM-1did ya?p.177
14:19:54.4CAMCAM-6yea as soo- like when we took off and you s- you like stopped a little bit.p.177
14:19:59.2CACAM-1oh yeah.p.177
14:19:59.8CAMCAM-6and we we hesitated. and I though oh well maybe there's some traffic in the way and then when we didn't climb any more I thought somethin's not right.p.177
14:20:07.7FOCAM-2start valve *.p.177
14:20:09.0CACAM-1we had the we had a whole bunch of stuff happinin' and we can't even figure out why * * some of it doesn't make any sense.p.177
14:20:12.6FOCAM-2because because we were climbing out it cyc- * * it cycled on and then right after that * *.p.178
14:20:19.4CACAM-1start valve the start valve that they changed uhm I don't know if they didn't secure it properly but by the time we were * butp.178
14:20:27.5CAMCAM-6is that in the same?p.178
14:20:28.8CACAM-1but on the on the left engine 'bout the 'bout the time we got through about two thousand twenty five hundred feet the light came on up here that told us that start valve was open it can't be open when the engine's running.p.178
14:20:40.6CACAM-1and then I don't know within ten or fifteen seconds they had an engine fire *.p.178
14:20:48.0CACAM-1he he couldn't.p.178
14:20:55.2CACAM-1* ( you want me to depress-) * well we're not quite sure what happened either I mean it it was just there was so many different things happenin' and uh. but I think was started it all was uhm we had a they brought this thing in it's been flyin' around with a left start valve inop.p.179
14:21:16.1CACAM-1required manual opening (okay) when we were gonna start to leave the gate they said they could not get it open manually so they did it they did it they changed it.p.179
14:21:16.4FOCAM-2* last leg. last leg (I'm tired). I should get a picture of myself * too.p.179
14:21:27.7FOCAM-2yeah we didn't have nosegear * * * *.p.179
14:21:28.9CACAM-1they slipped a news- they put a new start valve in and-p.179
14:21:32.6CACAM-1hah?p.179
14:21:34.1CACAM-1oh they didn't?p.180
14:21:36.0CACAM-1well.p.180
14:21:37.2CACAM-1he said they were gonna change it.p.180
14:21:39.1FOCAM-2well when we came around the first * * I looked (up) and it's just quiet * I mean * * * * *.p.180
14:21:39.9CAMCAM-?* * whatever.p.180
14:21:46.9CAMCAM-?uhm.p.180
14:21:49.0CACAM-1yeah.p.180
14:21:51.2CACAM-1thought you hadda put a wrench on it er ah.p.180
14:21:55.8CACAM-1okay.p.181
14:21:56.9FOCAM-2no that was ta to go back around and com here ah we already knew * * but then * * * * * * * * nosegear * * had no indication either I don't what's wrong * think * * *.p.181
14:21:58.2CACAM-1yeah.p.181
14:21:59.9CACAM-1about oh when se- when we were starting?p.181
14:22:03.7CACAM-1yeah about twenty five hundred feet the start valve light came on.p.181
14:22:07.7CACAM-1yeah and then shortly after that we got the engine fire light and uh fire left engine warning and all that stuff.p.181
14:22:15.5CACAM-1then we ah stopped our climb ah between I don't know about thirty five hundred we didn't make it to four thousand feet.p.182
14:22:15.5CAMCAM-4* * * * * * * so people around me wouldn't think that we were about to die I read the same page like twenty five times I couldn't tell ya what * * *.p.182
14:22:20.0FOCAM-2I jus- I jus- I just threw that (cap) *.p.182
14:22:24.3CACAM-1that wouldn't go out the light in this thing wouldn't go out the light bulbs are down here they were just it was made it so hot. the reason that it dumped fuel was because he was I don't know what he was doin' with the he pushed it back in for a moment and that's when it started dumpin it- that was the fuel between here and the spar I guess.p.182
14:22:44.0CACAM-1ahm what else happened okay so then we were getting that and then ah we were just gonna go back to land and we were lined up on thirty right and put the gear down and the nosegear didn't go down.p.182
14:22:52.7FOCAM-2so * * come dow- see what's really weird now turn the transfer pump on? turn the * * turn the aux pump * * turn the transfer pump on goes dead.p.183
14:23:01.2CACAM-1yeah we couldn't figure out what was goin' because about that time ah we had cut off the fuel to the left engine you know to shut it down and my left generator wound down and next thing I knew my instruments were goin' crazy we got a cross a ah crosstie lockout up here I reached up and turned on I moved the ah APU master switch to start I'm tryin' to get the APU up and it came up I guess but I could never really tell that I ever got electricity back. so then when we got on the runway ahm.p.183
14:23:07.3FOCAM-2you gotta be # me.p.183
14:23:14.1FOCAM-2I wondered where it said that. (whaddya say?)p.183
14:23:19.7CAMCAM-4can't can't wait.p.183
14:23:28.5CAMCAM-4stick this one where the sun doesn't shine I mean you had fifty percent man.p.184
14:23:33.6FOCAM-2you know when you got what time you gotta be to work?p.184
14:23:36.6CACAM-1I ah.p.184
14:23:39.0CACAM-1did I ever get the did I ever get the reverser out? Just wonder if I got the right reverser out because it did start-.p.184
14:23:46.8CACAM-1yeah so I got the right reverser open then I started goin' to the right and I almost couldn't stop it. * pushin' with everything I had on the left rudder and uh once we got down to slow speed I couldn't even work the the tiller.p.184
14:23:49.1FOCAM-2* * * the eagle thing after that?p.184
14:23:52.1CAMCAM-?what's that?p.185
14:24:12.4CACAM-1don't we have hydraulic fluid now?p.185
14:24:15.1CACAM-1but we don't have any pressure so.p.185
14:24:17.2FOCAM-2you know they were what was your name again?p.185
14:24:19.2CAMCAM-?it's @.p.185
14:24:19.7CACAM-1so we didn't know what.p.185
14:24:20.2FOCAM-2he was. he was saying that we had no flaps when we landed.p.186
14:24:24.2CAMCAM-4you guys had nothin' you had you had a- you had the slat you had nothin' else.p.186
14:24:28.6CACAM-1no #.p.186
14:24:29.2FOCAM-2and then.p.186
14:24:30.1CACAM-1good thing I didn't go any slower, huh?p.186
14:24:31.5FOCAM-2yeah well yeah in retrospect yeah.p.186
14:24:33.2CAMCAM-4* and you know you- and the same thing was when you were up in flight when you were doin' the pattern.p.186
14:24:34.3ATCGNDvehicle sixty one ground.p.186
14:24:37.8CACAM-1yeah.p.187
14:24:38.1CAMCAM-4and you were tryin' to * a little bit to get the gear down.p.187
14:24:40.3CACAM-1yeah. nothin' huh?p.187
14:24:42.3CAMCAM-4slats that it.p.187
14:24:43.3FOCAM-2what uhm isn't the nosegear all mechanical?p.187
14:24:49.3ATCGNDokay that was truck sixty one is that correct?p.187
14:24:54.8ATCGNDproceed * on thirty left.p.187
14:24:56.1CAMCAM-4right.p.188
14:25:07.8FOCAM-2okay that okay.p.188
14:25:10.2FOCAM-2right okay.p.188
14:25:13.4FOCAM-2okay.p.188
14:25:16.1FOCAM-2the mains did but the nose didn't.p.188
14:25:20.9FOCAM-2we had nothin' was workin'.p.188
14:25:22.5CACAM-1yeah we no * * *.p.189
14:25:23.5FOCAM-2all the * everything was out.p.189
14:25:24.3CACAM-1the electricity was all screwed up up here I mean we didn't know what we (had).p.189
14:25:26.3FOCAM-2I mean the cross-tie failed and so it was just kind of a multitude a.p.189
14:25:27.8CAMCAM-?yup.p.189
14:25:29.8FOCAM-2(missing).p.189
14:25:33.9FOCAM-2you guys gonna take it outta service or?p.189
14:25:36.5CACAM-1[sound of laughter].p.189
14:25:37.9FOCAM-2I know I'm just wonderin' ah.p.189
14:25:44.7CACAM-1both hydraulics?p.190
14:25:45.8FOCAM-2I don't know if this'll.p.190
14:25:50.9CACAM-1okay.p.190
14:25:51.7CAMCAM-4and when when you guys finally came to a stop.p.190
14:25:51.7FOCAM-2yeah 'cause.p.190
14:25:53.7CACAM-1yeah?p.190
14:25:54.7CAMCAM-4the the ground and flight spoilers popped up.p.190
14:25:57.0CACAM-1uh huh.p.190
14:25:57.1CAMCAM-4momentarily and then fell back down and the flaps went down to whatever you had it set at twenty eight.p.190
14:26:01.9CACAM-1soooo that's. 'cause the handle 'cause the handle deployed.p.191
14:26:03.0CAMCAM-4you landed with zero flaps.p.191
14:26:04.5FOCAM-2they deployed but they didn't come up.p.191
14:26:05.8CAMCAM-4spoilers * * deploy.p.191
14:26:08.5CAMCAM-?* * *. [multiple voices].p.191
14:26:09.8CACAM-1no #.p.191
14:26:10.2FOCAM-2that's why you didn't slow down #.p.191
14:26:10.8CAMCAM-4you didn't have anything until you came to a stop.p.191
14:26:13.0CACAM-1wow.p.191
14:26:14.2FOCAM-2and then we nose had no nose wheel steering.p.191
14:26:16.0CAMCAM-4well I'm wonderin' if you had any brakes did you just accumulator brakes?p.191
14:26:16.6CAMCAM-?I down know na- * * * * *.p.191
14:26:19.0CACAM-1* I well I did- I didn't take my feet off the brakes till we stopped I don't know.p.192
14:26:23.1CAMCAM-4* good thing you didn't because you probably woulda- I would if you didn't have that stuff I can't imagine you had more than accumulator brake pressure.p.192
14:26:29.0FOCAM-2* that's * * that shoulda that shoulda * * * * * * * * * *.p.192
14:26:37.8CACAM-1well once we got stopped both of these needles were over here in the red.p.192
14:26:41.4FOCAM-2we got some training here right?p.192
14:26:43.9CACAM-1so I just I can * * *.p.192
14:26:45.6CAMCAM-?* * * * brand new truck [multiple voices].p.192
14:26:48.1CACAM-1stuff kept happinen' I go what the # now.p.193
14:26:51.0CACAM-1get this # thing on the ground before.p.193
14:26:57.4FOCAM-2I'm goin' take a picture for us on the cell phone.p.193
14:26:59.8CACAM-1yeah might as well.p.193
14:27:01.1FOCAM-2everybody else was.p.193
14:27:03.5CAMCAM-?* * * * captain you helped the crew out a whole lot you did a # job there yes sir thank you.p.193
14:27:07.4CACAM-1* * thanks appreciate it thanks for being there for us.p.193
14:27:10.9CAMCAM-?no problem.p.193
14:27:13.1CAMCAM-?good job * *.p.194
14:27:14.8FOCAM-2so are you gonna retire early now or what?p.194
14:27:21.5CAMCAM-?take a look at that *.p.194
14:27:23.9CAMCAM-?(you got all kinds of) * *. [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.194
14:27:24.6CAMCAM-?* * (I can't drink this water). [sound similar to voice originating from outside the cockpit].p.194
14:27:27.0FOCAM-2* * * did you need anything er * * *.p.194
14:27:38.2CAMCAM-7(bring it on).p.194
14:27:40.0CAMCAM-7* did you have water here?p.194
14:27:50.0FOCAM-2catch.p.194
14:27:51.1CAMCAM-?[sound of laughter].p.194
14:28:02.2CAMCAM-?[sound of laughter, multiple voices].p.195
14:28:07.9FOCAM-2right here.p.195
14:28:11.6FOCAM-2no.p.195
14:28:12.2CACAM-1no.p.195
14:28:13.5FOCAM-2alrighty we'll get 'em wherever the # they're at.p.195
14:28:18.5FOCAM-2yeah well it's probably gone by now.p.195
14:28:20.0CAMCAM-?* have no idea how big a hero * * * * * * *.p.195
14:28:21.7FOCAM-2well the # are things at flight you want flight recorder and what else?p.195
14:28:25.3CAMCAM-?ah he wants to pull the ah if you got voice recorder and flight recorderp.196
14:28:28.8FOCAM-2(look) at this left engine oil pressure (popped).p.196
14:28:30.9CAMCAM-?should be on the emergency checklist look on you yoke clip.p.196
14:28:31.7FOCAM-2yeah it would it woulda popped.p.196
14:28:33.7CAMCAM-?it'll tell ya on the yoke clip.p.196
14:28:35.3FOCAM-2look at you guys man.p.196
14:28:38.1FOCAM-2voice recorder F-six.p.196
14:28:40.4CACAM-1(okay) there we go.p.196